I miss Larry Marvin make me long for Larry. Come back Larry!! http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,330879#msg-330879 Fri, 17 Jul 2026 17:00:04 -0700 Phorum 5.2.23 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,332797#msg-332797 Re: TAKE LARRY BACK PLEASE http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,332797#msg-332797 NWF Pulling Forum Mon, 28 Aug 2023 11:10:05 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,332773#msg-332773 Re: TAKE LARRY BACK PLEASE http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,332773#msg-332773
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No weekender fan
Will stay home next time before I suffer through another of his announcing gigs.
Who's announcing gig?]]> Fan4 Pulling Forum Sun, 27 Aug 2023 14:03:27 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,332772#msg-332772 Re: PLEASE Do NOT Hire Larry as Announcer!!!! http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,332772#msg-332772 Just Sayin’ Pulling Forum Sun, 27 Aug 2023 13:37:05 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,332769#msg-332769 Re: TAKE LARRY BACK PLEASE http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,332769#msg-332769 He didn't have any problem filling his summer with announcing gigs.
Lots of folks like his announcing.
Hint, you will NOT be missed.]]> HP Pulling Forum Sun, 27 Aug 2023 12:51:26 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,332764#msg-332764 TAKE LARRY BACK PLEASE http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,332764#msg-332764 No weekender fan Pulling Forum Sun, 27 Aug 2023 10:19:42 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,332011#msg-332011 Re: Tacky Decals http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,332011#msg-332011 Sponsored Puller Pulling Forum Tue, 08 Aug 2023 19:04:16 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331155#msg-331155 Re: Sponsorships -Pulling vs Golf. http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331155#msg-331155 Suburban Farmboy Pulling Forum Sun, 16 Jul 2023 15:13:32 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331095#msg-331095 Re: Sponsorships -Pulling vs Golf. http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331095#msg-331095 RW Pulling Forum Fri, 14 Jul 2023 15:43:58 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331093#msg-331093 Re: Tacky Decals http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331093#msg-331093
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RW
They are an ITPA points fund sponsor. What amount, I have no idea. Peanuts for Mother Deere I'm sure.

Is it Deere Corporate or a local Deere Dealer that is sponsoring? Either way I’m glad to hear it.]]> Stretch Pulling Forum Fri, 14 Jul 2023 05:49:14 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331065#msg-331065 Re: Tacky Decals http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331065#msg-331065 LSS Fan Pulling Forum Thu, 13 Jul 2023 21:36:43 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331061#msg-331061 Re: Sponsorships -Pulling vs Golf. http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331061#msg-331061 RW Pulling Forum Thu, 13 Jul 2023 18:52:41 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331059#msg-331059 Re: Sponsorships -Pulling vs Golf. http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331059#msg-331059
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Bryan Lively


I'm unaware of Deere Corporate putting any money into sponsoring pulling (outside of local dealers sponsoring local pulls). From the business perspective, the amount of eyes Deere reaches sponsoring a golf tournament that is watched by millions of suburban households is probably more lucrative than sponsoring pulling which reaches thousands of "generally" rural households. Of course the investment into the golf tournament is larger but I'd imagine the return on selling Deere lawnmowers to the suburban households is larger overall as well. Compared to the increased Ag sales from sponsoring pulling. They are getting more bang for their advertising money in the golf tournament vs pulling.


Per Google, over 15,000 golf courses and around 2000, county and state fairs.

Per Google, 230 million yards to mow (homeowners) and less than 2 million farms. Thats a whole lotta Home Depot mowers that have a pretty nice margin on them versus the Ag. market. Doesnt count the turf and lawn stuff sold through dealer network.

As much as I’d like to see them sponsor pulling, I understand why they do not. Even if the margins aren’t great on Home Depot Deeres the sheer volume helps. I’m a Deere guy, but I definitely appreciate CaseIH for their involvement in pulling.]]> Stretch Pulling Forum Thu, 13 Jul 2023 18:09:03 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331047#msg-331047 Re: Tacky Decals http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331047#msg-331047 bandit496 Pulling Forum Thu, 13 Jul 2023 14:29:09 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331037#msg-331037 Re: Not tacky; Outright stupid http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331037#msg-331037
I think there's something to be said about both sides of the argument here. Trashing guys who refuse to put the stickers on is failing to recognize a valid argument. But failing to see how the stickers on the vehicles benefits the sport is equally as stupid.

I think the sport of tractor pulling has some great sponsors already, it could certainly stand to draw in some bigger names. But the thing I think needs resolved is how can new sponsorship benefit the pullers because the purse at most pulls is laughable these days, so sponsorship hasn't done a whole lot to help the guys who make the sport (the pullers).]]> BrandonA Pulling Forum Thu, 13 Jul 2023 07:56:31 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331035#msg-331035 Re: Sponsorships -Pulling vs Golf. http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331035#msg-331035
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Stretch
I'm unaware of Deere Corporate putting any money into sponsoring pulling (outside of local dealers sponsoring local pulls). From the business perspective, the amount of eyes Deere reaches sponsoring a golf tournament that is watched by millions of suburban households is probably more lucrative than sponsoring pulling which reaches thousands of "generally" rural households. Of course the investment into the golf tournament is larger but I'd imagine the return on selling Deere lawnmowers to the suburban households is larger overall as well. Compared to the increased Ag sales from sponsoring pulling. They are getting more bang for their advertising money in the golf tournament vs pulling.


Per Google, over 15,000 golf courses and around 2000, county and state fairs.]]> ?????? Pulling Forum Thu, 13 Jul 2023 07:35:39 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331032#msg-331032 Re: Sponsorships -Pulling vs Golf. http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331032#msg-331032 Stretch Pulling Forum Thu, 13 Jul 2023 06:49:17 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331031#msg-331031 Re: Tacky Decals http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331031#msg-331031
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John Murray
Totally disagree with changing the sponsors colors. That's more disrespectful than not putting them on.

Do you care to expand upon that? The sponsor’s name and logo is still getting out there. If there’s a John Deere logo that’s in white, silver, or grey, you’re still getting that brand recognition. I have seen several examples of such “color matching” and I actually think it makes the sport look more professional.


Brand recognition is generally associated with their colors. Example would be changing the CaseIH stickers on the Grand national circuit to green and yellow..........]]> 2cfs Pulling Forum Thu, 13 Jul 2023 05:45:58 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331024#msg-331024 Re: Tacky Decals http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331024#msg-331024
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The Original Michael
Every October everything changes to pink for a month. We just got done having to see every liberal company have rainbow colors on their logos. Thankfully, no rainbow virtue signalimg in pulling yet.

I guess I should have been more clear -- I'm talking about pullers using neutral colors like this or this. I'm genuinely curious how this is more disrespectful to sponsors than not having anything on there at all. But I guess it's just easier to click the thumbs down than to explain a view point. I wasn't trying to be argumentative -- just trying to have a discussion.

To your post, TOM: I don't see pullers that go this route changing this logo color scheme just for Breast Cancer Awareness month or Pride month. That just seems like a slippery slope-type of argument.]]> John Murray Pulling Forum Wed, 12 Jul 2023 18:18:39 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331023#msg-331023 Re: Tacky Decals http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331023#msg-331023 JJJ Pulling Forum Wed, 12 Jul 2023 17:47:13 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331022#msg-331022 Re: Tacky Decals http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331022#msg-331022
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John Murray
Totally disagree with changing the sponsors colors. That's more disrespectful than not putting them on.

Do you care to expand upon that? The sponsor’s name and logo is still getting out there. If there’s a John Deere logo that’s in white, silver, or grey, you’re still getting that brand recognition. I have seen several examples of such “color matching” and I actually think it makes the sport look more professional.

Every October everything changes to pink for a month. We just got done having to see every liberal company have rainbow colors on their logos. Thankfully, no rainbow virtue signalimg in pulling yet.]]> The Original Michael Pulling Forum Wed, 12 Jul 2023 16:18:02 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331020#msg-331020 Re: Tacky Decals http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331020#msg-331020
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Totally disagree with changing the sponsors colors. That's more disrespectful than not putting them on.

Do you care to expand upon that? The sponsor’s name and logo is still getting out there. If there’s a John Deere logo that’s in white, silver, or grey, you’re still getting that brand recognition. I have seen several examples of such “color matching” and I actually think it makes the sport look more professional.]]> John Murray Pulling Forum Wed, 12 Jul 2023 15:45:38 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331019#msg-331019 Re: Tacky Decals http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331019#msg-331019
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Washed Up Puller
I think the competitor should have the option for color coordinating / black out decals along with traditional. I don't mind running them but the look awful.

BTW: gotta make sure Daddy Dave can make that Cadillac payment. Get them stickers on boys.

Totally disagree with changing the sponsors colors. That's more disrespectful than not putting them on.]]> toocool4school Pulling Forum Wed, 12 Jul 2023 15:30:44 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331018#msg-331018 Not tacky; Outright stupid http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331018#msg-331018
If memory is correct, he recounted back in the '80s NTPA had Wrangler as a sponsor. That's a big deal for any motorsport. He said the Wrangler execs were dumbfounded when they saw track officials removing Wrangler signage from the track. He also mentioned crusty old pullers saying "I'm not going to wear those crap pants" or something similar.

Well, the Wrangler deal didn't last long because the organization, including pullers, didn't understand the importance of supporting the sponsor even if they didn't like the product. I can understand if a specific sponsor's product offends someone's morals (extreme fictional example- a fictional pull in Nevada sponsored by a house of ill-repute even if legal in that state). However, these were just denim jeans. Call it stubborn or stupid (stubbornness can be a form of stupidity).

Some deals like the NTPA Copenhagen Skoal deal may have been undone by government fiat. Most deals, if they're good for the sponsor, will probably be renewed. If the sponsor doesn't feel like they're getting value, or support from the organization, they will bail. I bet Wrangler gets value from rodeos.

Btw, I'd suggest going to an NHRA race and walking through the Sportsman pits. Look at how many contingency stickers are on a Stock or Super Comp car.]]> The Original Michael Pulling Forum Wed, 12 Jul 2023 15:26:43 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331017#msg-331017 Re: Sponsorships -Pulling vs Golf. http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331017#msg-331017 lewis c Pulling Forum Wed, 12 Jul 2023 14:07:04 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331016#msg-331016 Re: What's tacky... http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331016#msg-331016 avercusauto Pulling Forum Wed, 12 Jul 2023 14:02:59 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331012#msg-331012 What's tacky... http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331012#msg-331012 Goods and services are exchanged, tangible and intangible.

I sponsor classes specifically one at Tunica. Do they have to run my decal? No, but several have them anyway. Its a tangible return on investment (paying purse money) that they get for an intangible I want - to cultivate, enthusiasm and goodwill for the sport that makes me feel good. However, IF...IF I required them.to run my decal in the class I would reserve the right to defer winnings to next placing competitor if someone didn't. .

So, in my opinion, begrudging a sponsor's simple request to run place their decal on a vehicle smells as bad as a porta john on a hot August Taco Tuesday. Tacky actually isn't adequate enough word.

Some of us need to make clearer decisions about "elevating" the sport ...make sure you understand which end of that rope you're holding on to...to let the let the rope out aand watch the sport grow, or to rein it in, and hold it back.]]> Bryan Lively Pulling Forum Wed, 12 Jul 2023 13:41:03 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331011#msg-331011 Sponsorships -Pulling vs Golf. http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331011#msg-331011
Take note, who the title sponsor is.

[golfweek.usatoday.com]]]> ?????? Pulling Forum Wed, 12 Jul 2023 13:22:22 -0700 http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331009#msg-331009 Re: Tacky Decals http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,330879,331009#msg-331009 Washed up is correct Pulling Forum Wed, 12 Jul 2023 12:15:19 -0700