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        <title>Clevis size?</title>
        <description> I keep hearing that the size of the hit hitch is getting bigger. It used to be a 3” hole or twisted clevis, but now it’s bigger. Will the new hooks work on a 4” twisted clevis? Or would a guy need to make a flat hitch to pull an occasional farm class?</description>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ RCP- LOL,,,, KRAZY!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>DRW</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:43:39 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Imagine that.<br />
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And he still doesn’t get the point that the hole can be too big.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dirtfarmer</dc:creator>
            <category>Pulling Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:09:15 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ No, it&#039;s your 6th, Captain.  Or Captain Obvious, or is it BFS, BFS2018, or this horse is tireddddd?  Either way all of them are coming from the same place based on post IP info.<br />
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CP]]></description>
            <dc:creator>cpr</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2025 02:23:52 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Jake Morgan</strong><br />
"You obviously like to argue just to argue or show the world how big your peepee is just to be right"<br />
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I think it&#039;s fair to say that most people have enjoyed watching you call the kettle black.</div></blockquote>
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I think you should try again, bud. This post right here is only my third reply to the thread. Nice try though.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Captain</dc:creator>
            <category>Pulling Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2025 20:28:49 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
            <link>http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,344194,345193#msg-345193</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ "You obviously like to argue just to argue or show the world how big your peepee is just to be right"<br />
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I think it&#039;s fair to say that most people have enjoyed watching you call the kettle black.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jake Morgan</dc:creator>
            <category>Pulling Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2025 18:34:14 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Dirtfarmer</strong><br />
If the handle is in blue, it’s a registered user. Name in black, not registered.<br />
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BFS could stand for a lot of things. You obviously have no clue the point that Jake and RCP are making, that the hole can be big enough to defeat the purpose of the tab that is supposed to keep the hook from coming out.<br />
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What do you pull?</div></blockquote>
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What do I pull? Modified 4wd truck and a blown 2wd. For several years. To say I have no clue is foolish. I’ve been around long enough to know what the rule is and how it’s written. And you still get guys showing up with a hole that’s entirely too small. Nobody is making a commercially available drawbar plate that could physically be cut large enough to allow the hole be cut far enough to let the hook flop out. Anybody with a clue knows what they are supposed to be doing at a regional or national level. It’s the brush pulls at a county fair where this is a problem. Or the antique guys who absolutely do not want to make their stuff compatible with the class 8 sleds that are no longer willing to change their hook every event just to accommodate them. The mandated tab is above any sort of national sanction body and comes from the NAOSA, that takes back to insurance reasons. So where again would you like to insert extra non necessary verbiage in a national, regional, or state level rulebook that will make no change, positive or negative to the problem at hand?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Captain Obvious</dc:creator>
            <category>Pulling Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2025 17:03:35 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
            <link>http://www.pulloff.com/phorum/read.php?2,344194,345187#msg-345187</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ If the handle is in blue, it’s a registered user. Name in black, not registered.<br />
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BFS could stand for a lot of things. You obviously have no clue the point that Jake and RCP are making, that the hole can be big enough to defeat the purpose of the tab that is supposed to keep the hook from coming out.<br />
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What do you pull?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dirtfarmer</dc:creator>
            <category>Pulling Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2025 16:24:44 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I guess at this point I&#039;m glad I don&#039;t own a clevis :)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Peter T.</dc:creator>
            <category>Pulling Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2025 14:21:57 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>RCP</strong><br />
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If you had any balls you would sign your posts with your name instead of doing it anonymously.</div></blockquote>
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If you had any brains you would see the initials BFS. Guess the common sense train missed you when it came by since you think that’s “anonymous”. Anyways, where is your name in your post Mr big balls with a hidden email address?! RCP? Really Childish Person? Really Cranky Prick? Really Crying Person?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Captain Obvious</dc:creator>
            <category>Pulling Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2025 14:09:55 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>BFS</strong><br />
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You obviously do not understand dimensions on parts, everything has a tolerance, with no tolerance stated 3-3/4" would be 3.7500000000000" and impossible dimension to achieve. If you want to discuss this, further feel free to talk to me in person.<br />
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You obviously like to argue just to argue or show the world how big your peepee is just to be right. You’re worried about a tolerance when the problem is guys show up with a hole that isn’t even close to big enough to begin with!!! How do you account for wear on the drawbar plate? Because that happens too. Are you going to start measuring with calipers then?? Get a grip dude.</div></blockquote>
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The point is, if the tab on the hook is supposed to keep the hook from coming out of the hitch, then the size of the hole needs to be defined. The only requirement I see being applied is as long as the hook fits it ships. Nothing is being done to make sure that the hook will not come out of the hitch. <br />
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If you had any balls you would sign your posts with your name instead of doing it anonymously.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>RCP</dc:creator>
            <category>Pulling Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2025 03:41:43 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>RCP</strong><br />
You obviously do not understand dimensions on parts, everything has a tolerance, with no tolerance stated 3-3/4" would be 3.7500000000000" and impossible dimension to achieve. If you want to discuss this, further feel free to talk to me in person.</div></blockquote>
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You obviously like to argue just to argue or show the world how big your peepee is just to be right. You’re worried about a tolerance when the problem is guys show up with a hole that isn’t even close to big enough to begin with!!! How do you account for wear on the drawbar plate? Because that happens too. Are you going to start measuring with calipers then?? Get a grip dude.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>BFS</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 20:05:03 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Well said.  Is an 1/8" too tight of a tolerance?  Too loose?  Does that account for rounding due to wear?  Or is that at the narrowest point?  This is something that should probably be written in black and white.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jake Morgan</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2025 14:47:26 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ You obviously do not understand dimensions on parts, everything has a tolerance, with no tolerance stated 3-3/4" would be 3.7500000000000" and impossible dimension to achieve. If you want to discuss this, further feel free to talk to me in person.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>RCP</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2025 03:21:19 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>RCP</strong><br />
I understand what you are saying, but there needs to be a tolerance on the dimension, such as 3-3/4" +/- 1/8". Most people only worry about if the hook fits in the hole, if it fits it ships.</div></blockquote>
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There doesn’t need to be a “tolerance”. The hole size is given. That’s what it is. The hook will fit in and unhook as intended and the locking mechanism will work as intended. This concept is literally 15 plus years old. It’s not going away or going backwards. Whether it’s “in the rules” or not, it’s what is required by the National Sled Operators and the insurance requirements. Period. End of it. Regardless of what club says what or who “doesn’t enforce it”. Any real association I’ve ever pulled with, spectated at or teched for enforces this. If the hook doesn’t fit when you get out on the track, sorry about your luck. At some point here some common sense has to prevail and a puller has to be responsible for their own equipment.  They can sure all read a tape measure to set a drawbar height. Same tape measure can be used to build a drawbar plate. If you don’t have the ability, they can be bought for as little as $50.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>This horse is tiredddddd</dc:creator>
            <category>Pulling Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2025 23:58:39 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I understand what you are saying, but there needs to be a tolerance on the dimension, such as 3-3/4" +/- 1/8". Most people only worry about if the hook fits in the hole, if it fits it ships.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>RCP</dc:creator>
            <category>Pulling Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2025 02:01:56 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Some organizations do have the 3.75"x3" rule. The problem I know of is very few enforce it, but most don&#039;t even have it like you said. Most hitches I saw over the past year or so just had a torch taken to them to open them up with no regard for hitting a specific size.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>some do</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2025 18:38:02 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ It won&#039;t change, but the idea of welding a tab on the hook to prevent it from coming out is flawed. It would only work if you put a limit on the maximum size of the hole, which no organization does.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>RCP</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2025 09:36:10 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ It’s been over a decade since I’ve pulled, and I was using a purpose built hitch at that time. I’m just wanting to take a tractor off the farm once in a while, so a clevis would be simpler than a purpose built hitch.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>kurtvtx</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2025 08:26:36 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The hitch hole requirement of 3" wide x 3-3/4" long has been a thing for at least 15 years (and probably longer) in most organized pulling. I&#039;m surprised there is anywhere that doesn&#039;t have this hole size called out!!!!! Makes me laugh every time this topic comes up as if it just happened.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>not new</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 06:29:30 -0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Last year many tractors in my area had to cut their hitch holes bigger, 3-1/2" used to be fine now you need every bit of 3-3/4" long.  They weld a tab on the back of the hook supposedly to keep the hook from coming out of the hitch.  They say one came unhooked so the geniuses decided to weld a bigger tab on the back of the hooks.  If you haven&#039;t seen these bigger hooks yet you will soon.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>JDRyanB</dc:creator>
            <category>Pulling Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 04:23:10 -0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Do not use a clevis for tractor pulling. I witnessed a bone stock AC 180 break a clevis years ago. It’s not worth it. Make a steel plate to bolt firmly to your drawbar.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>JaKe566</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 20:07:05 -0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The size of the required hole hasn’t changed in 20 years or so at this point as far as Class 8 sleds go. You’ll likely going to need to build a hitch plate of some sort with a 3.75” long by 3” wide hole to accept the hook with the locking device. A lot of places are enforcing the “if it don’t fit, we’re not forcing it in” so if you show up and the hook doesn’t easily drop in, likely you’ll be sent off the track.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>BFS2018</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 19:55:11 -0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Clevis size?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I keep hearing that the size of the hit hitch is getting bigger. It used to be a 3” hole or twisted clevis, but now it’s bigger. Will the new hooks work on a 4” twisted clevis? Or would a guy need to make a flat hitch to pull an occasional farm class?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>kurtvtx</dc:creator>
            <category>Pulling Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 12:55:49 -0800</pubDate>
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