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ih 360 information
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I'm interested in building a ih. 560 with a dt 360 what size turbo, pump c.c., and injectors would be a good place to start? I intend to fire ring and cut the compression. Thanks for the input |
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Registered: 04/12/2008 Posts: 398 |
You have to give a touch more info to get better discussion going. We need to know class. Rpm limit- pump restrictions- mph limits, etc. What group would you run with, or what part of the country are you from? |
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360
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I'm in texas there is no class for me to run in, except with the hwh antiques, which is fine to run with. Just curious where to go with it for a start on a class, without a lot of unnecessary expense. |
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360
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How big of turbo would say a 466 injector from a truck push? |
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I am running a 3-LM 466 charger on my 312 in a 666. 13mm model 100 pump, lines injectors etc. I have to launch well over 3000rpm to keep the charger spooled. A lot will depend on what rpm you are turning and your pump and injectors. I assume if you wanted to keep cost down you could start with the T-04 that came on the engine. |
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360
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I have a t04 as well as a 3lm, also have either a stock A pump or a model 100, first thing I need is a sfi clutch, so rpm is optional. Thanks for the input, all opinions are welcome. |
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There is th option of putting a truck motor in it has a inline pump and turbo to start with. |
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Is there a option of a dt466 truck motor, if you are going threw ll the work. |
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360
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The idea in mind is to keep it light as possible, while affordable, maybe allow 5.9 cummins also, with 18.4 ag tires. Thanks for the input. |
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If you have a dt 360 in hat is one thing, you can buy a roller dt 466 out of a bus or truck for about 1500 dollars and that might be the whole engine and chassis. the wieght is not that much diff when you talk a truck motor, a 5.9 is going to be alot lighter than any dt . dt360s are little power houses when you look at what you have to work with on the low end a dt360 will walk with a dt466 but when you get to the higher side they start to run a little short. |
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Do you have a have a hp in mind, what weight class are thinking of running. |
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360
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I'm not sure what the hp would be, I was wondering what a 360 with a box 3lm would produce at 3000 rpm? How much interest is there in a starter class? |
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Registered: 07/11/2008 Posts: 326 |
360... Look at the rules for the LLSS classes.. There are a couple in TX right now.. a few would like to see the class started.. I know its a ways from where you are talking about going, but at least some rules to shoot for.. |
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ih puller
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I think the llss class would be great, down the road, I feel Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, which hasn't had a lot of sanctioned pulling ,since the late 80s could really kick off with a starter class. Texas ,unlike the Northern states really is lacking for performance diesel shops. |
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360
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Thanks for the info on the class, any one else have a similar idea? |
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C Downs
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If you are looking at a light, small cube economical (?). Go to illianapullers.com. Check the rules for Outlaw tractors. (May be some Outlaw video as well) They mix unlimited cube N/A and small cube w/small turbo with rpm limits in a class. So far very competitive and a growing class.
They have one turbo'd 360 IH and a couple of 5.9 powered tractors. At least give you an idea of what a class like that could look like. Based on the gear, track speed, etc., I would say the 360 powered machine is making north of 600 on the dyno. |
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What we are wanting is a tractor with the same chassis as a LLSS. Just with 18.4 38 Ag tires and a budget friendly engine. That could jump up to LLSS easily. |
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360, What we see up north is to bring a tractor to a pull and they will not turn you away and if there is at least four tractors out there they will start a class . We had similar issue, we wanted to start a class for small six cylinder diesel 360 and 404 with out butting heads with the bigger cube tractors the class is built for ih806 jd 4010 ect. the weight is set low enough that a 1066 or a 4440 can not get low enough to be competitive 7000lbs to 8000lbs . My sugestion is to contact some of your pull promoters. |
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Anyone have an approximate weight of a 560 with a 360 engine? |
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Registered: 07/11/2008 Posts: 326 |
In TX.. I know there are hand ful of tractors that are close...
The guys out of Lindsay have 2 that are true LLSS tractors.. One is Acky.. not sure about other. Jeff's Twin Turboed 3.9L Cummins Farmall M 1 5.9L cummins Farmal M (more of a 3000 rpm tractor) 1 5.9L Cummins D17/19 (more a 3000 rpm tractor) I know there are a couple of more that I'm missing |
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check out mstpa.com or mmttpa .com they have a 360 cube class called 5900 pro field. lots of dif colors tractors or you can see this class at gordyville |
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360
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I like the mstpa 5900# looks good and simple thanks for the information |
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Redman
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I have llss 560 with a 360 weight is about 5300# |
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We have looked at Mstpa. And Iamo rules they look good we just have old rules. Anything we can do to make it more competitive with different brands? We want to keep it light and reasonably affordable thanks |
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Registered: 09/03/2010 Posts: 393 |
I'm thinking if you want to keep it affordable you might want to consider putting in your rules a turbo limit like a non-modified out of the box 3lm-466 or S300 turbo to help control cost for the class. MSTPA and MMTTPA (pro-field 5900) is a good class that doesn't run a turbo limit, easy to police, ect, but you can and will need to spend a fairly good amount of funds to be competitive. Not as economical a class as it first appears. Just mt 2 cents for what it's worth. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/13/2014 01:16AM by farmall puller. |
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360
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Which turbo would push harder, and anyone have an idea what size injectors would work? |
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Registered: 05/04/2013 Posts: 114 |
only 1 easy way to contain cost: speed limit. 12mph is popular. |
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Registered: 09/23/2008 Posts: 632 |
at the light wt and with limited cubes and turbo 15 would be much more fun, if cost is your directive make it a box turbo class. There will be some that complain about the limited ingenuity but that is available in a plethora of other classes has no place in a "cheap" class. If you really want to limit the amount of cash spent, put a 500.00 pump rule in and every once in awhile someone plunk down the money now that will change a heart and mind when the billfold gets affected. |
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