head bolt options January 02, 2017 01:15PM
Has anyone used cat head bolts on a 400 series IH? I have heard using them was a better, stronger and cheaper option for head bolts compared to using caseIH bolts and a cheaper option than studs. Does anyone have the specs or part numbers to the caterpillar bolts if so?

Re: head bolt options January 03, 2017 11:12AM
We have been using them for years. They work very well we torque them to 200ft/lbs

Re: head bolt options January 03, 2017 01:57PM
IH uses grade 8 bolts you can go to Fastenall or a Dellars bolt supplier and get some a lot stronger and cheap anything that says cat is not cheap the ones ive used use a allen to tighten them

Re: head bolt options January 03, 2017 02:16PM
Nothing special about a cat bolt they're just a stronger grade. Like Lewis said you can get the same thing from somewhere like Fastenal for a lot cheaper than cat.

Re: head bolt options January 05, 2017 12:29PM
I work for a Cat dealer and checked on both head and standard hex bolts. On an IH with 9/16" bolts they offer are a bit shorter than 6 1/2" nothing even close to 9". Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: head bolt options February 26, 2017 06:49AM
Do you guys have a part number for your head bolts your getting from fastenal? I was looking on there web site but didnt see anything but a grade 5 for the 9" long bolt.

Re: head bolt options January 04, 2017 06:19AM
Ok I will do price comparison of both. What are the lengths that you all would use? I have an IH book that tells me the exact size but I don't want to guess and you won't find the exact sizes of the bolts and since I don't want to pay for IH's high prices....the book says for the new ones with a flange built in to where you don't need a washer:8.82" for the long and 6.38 for the short; old style with washers 9" long, 6.56 for short. Would you get these for the new: 8.75-8.5 and 6.25-6 and these for the old:9" obviously and 6.5-6.25?



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Re: head bolt options January 04, 2017 10:46AM
why wouldn't you use a washer?

Re: head bolt options January 04, 2017 11:53AM
You will more than likely buy a 9inch and a 61/2 from a bolt supplier use the washers

Re: head bolt options January 05, 2017 12:30AM
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why wouldn't you use a washer?
The new style head bolts from IH has a flanged type hex head instead of a plane hex that the old ones have, so according to the book it is not required to have washers for them. If I was to get the Cat or Fastenal bolts, I will be using washers unless the bolts have flanges which would have washers basically built into them right? The way it looks the washers should be about 3/16-1/4" thick.

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