LLSS horsepower December 13, 2018 08:48AM
what are the realistic horsepowers of the diesel lite limited super stock tractors and also the alkys. would like to build a diesel and was wondering about the best engine configuration to use want to stay with ih
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 13, 2018 10:06AM
I have been told that a 470ci, 3.4-3.6 turbo is well north of 1500. I personally have not seen the dyno sheet, but that’s what I was told. Hopefully that’s somewhat helpful.
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 13, 2018 10:09AM
i want to make it ntpa legal so that big of turbo aint legal i think a 3x4 slotted charger is max
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 13, 2018 10:37AM
I have a friend that has a DSS and he and builder talk in that 1400-1500 hp range
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 13, 2018 12:30PM
Alcohol 1300 to 1400 dont no about the 3.4 diesle but the profarm with 470 and a 3inch are making 1500 and a lot more torque
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 13, 2018 02:27PM
lewis have u seen any dyno sheets of diesels want to stay with a 466 i notice you respond to alot of LLSS articles and was wondering if i should go with a 410 cooler setup or a 466
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 13, 2018 02:33PM
He's going to tell you 410 ( more than likely ), but for some reason he won't build one-- go figure !!!!
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 13, 2018 02:52PM
XXX wrong answer if your club allows the 3.4 go with the 466 and yes i have seen dyno sheets from a couple of the top tractors running 3 inch Now i wish i could afford to go diesel thats why i wont build one cant afford one when just the injectors cost as much as a complete alcohol fuel system if that was a slure go get some of Hawthorn and the Wisconson boys bunch of 410s
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 18, 2018 10:05PM
With the new national rules on the diesels hp will definitely be harder to find with the 3.4 smooth bore turbo just because of the limited production of them
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 13, 2018 04:47PM
Lewis you're padding the numbers on the 466 3x4 at well over 1500. I don't believe there very many if any at all over 1500. There's a whole bunch running around the Midwest with PPL 8500 Lim pro and 1450ish is a big number but you want them out of LLSS so spin your tales to suit you.
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 13, 2018 06:19PM
yup,-- just ask mr no it alll he comments on most subjects and does he even have a unit in the soup mix,for anyone to have all the answers,I would thinkk we would see him winning all the classes he is knowledgable on,seems funny to me,and yes any dyno can be made to show big numbers so the payee thinks he is top dog,however,the proof is in the puddi'n,HP is easy to get,but gettin it to the ground consitantly is the hard,part,no dyno ever did that. Happy Holidays !
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 14, 2018 08:49AM
Tripple x I sold the fourth i had last year built two since and have one in the shop now whats your crudentials I dont claim to be a no it all But i do know a lot as you can see wich burns your ass I just help when i can and i have helped a lot of people who gets on here i get a lot of calls from almost daily who read my post and had a lot of thank yous that apriciate a know it all that tells it for free DT you just admitted to a few 3x4 tractors pushing 1450 horses and possibaly a few making 1500 if there is one that can make 1500 100 more can do the same BUT what your missing now the rules are 3.4x4 guys get your facts streight or ask me first so i dont have to do this one finger typing and using my no it all non spelling brain
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 13, 2018 10:24PM
What to biuld , first it going to depend on where your located? How many clubs are you going to pull with? Your 410 with cooler will let you run with most everyone with out changing covers on your charger. Point is just go have fun


David Runkle class rep for Badger State LLSS class. 815-821-4686
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 13, 2018 11:48PM
i live in northeast wi. is alky really that much cheaper to build than a diesel? i have always been a diesel man but it seems that the diesels have a hard time against the alkys in that class. the badger state 466 class has alot of power in that class and why couldnt a person use that setup in a LLSS setup. i honestly think that the diesels should be running at 65oo lbs and alkys at 6250 maybe evening out the playing field.
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 14, 2018 12:35AM
Are 466 class has a lot of good tractors and bring about 15 of them . As for are class nobody has shown us interest in the 470 rule, because are 466 is that popular. If you need some more info just give me a call


David Runkle class rep for Badger State LLSS class. 815-821-4686
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 14, 2018 12:58AM
i wonder if a 466 would spin a 3x4 slotted charger without a cooler
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 14, 2018 02:55AM
Papa John has one of each. Call him number is in his profile
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 14, 2018 01:29PM
The 466s has swung the 3 inch slotted which is common in a lot of classes without the cooler along with a 3.4 and the 3.6 where allowed to answer your question
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 14, 2018 03:56AM
I'm looking for someone who has some 5.9 Cummings twin experience in this class
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 14, 2018 07:25AM
You will never find anyone with a cummings to give you advice cummins maybe
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 14, 2018 09:30AM
Thanks for the spell check. But it doesn't help me with my question
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 14, 2018 12:58PM
Dave, have Badger changed the rules to allow 466 in the LLSS class if so I would come to your closer pulls. Have a great holiday.
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 14, 2018 02:15PM
i guess u wont get a real answer on hp cuz everyone wants to argue about it
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 14, 2018 10:51PM
Horsepower wise . The 410s are around 1250 - 1350 is realistic. And to Tom , I wished you lived closer , but no changes to are rules on the engine combinations. you
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 14, 2018 11:31PM
Thanks Dave.
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Re: LLSS horsepower December 15, 2018 03:58AM
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