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Jake, it's "a lot." Leave it to a country boy to have to correct a northerner...  John Murray Two-time Pedal Pull World Champion Let's Go Pulling, covering the sport of pulling in Kentucky, Tennessee, and Alabama. Watch LGP on YouTube Like LGP on Facebook 
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Long rambling nonsense? To quote Greta Thunberg...
Personal side note: John, I've never been more proud of you! Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
Wow!!! Now that little girl has been subjected to some Serious Indoctrination and brainwashing!!! Typical of today's world of schools and colleges! Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2020 12:51AM by Jake Morgan. |
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Dave,
It’s simple, if you really, really don’t like any product you should discontinue use. If you do like the product then learn to live within the rules. Problem solved. Let me address some of your grievances:
This is the first time I’ve ever called you out by your full name (early this week or last week I simply said “Dave”) Infact, this recent string of events in the past week is the is the first time that I recollect where we had any sort of disagreement. Have I libeled you in the past? No. No, you don’t use your real name most of the time and you’ve simply hide behind anonymity. No name, no libel. (Slander is spoken/oral so it’s not really applicable.)
Yes, it’s a person, but it’s in no way libel, which is the accusation you've made repeatedly. Next, there was no automatic trashing, there was disagreement, nothing more. RESPECT… you have the audacity to mention respect? Just like the respect you’ve shown over the week for this FREE site? Constantly posting your one or two sentence bashing this site, my father, and/or myself. Where’s your respect? How’s that plank in your eye Dave? Oh, and respect is generally not earned in the anonymity you tried to hide behind.
I almost never even glance at the IP addresses in the posts (all Moderators can see them). I’ll be honest, an IP look-up is not something I do very often… maybe 2 or 3 times a year when I see a pattern of behavior. Your post last week was my first IP look-up this year. You’re #1 for 2020, congrats! Generally speaking, 99.9% of the time when I see a post that I deem inappropriate I simply hit delete. I don’t look up the IP (heck, sometimes I don't even look at the name if the post is egregious enough), I don’t archive it (there’s no way for me to do so, the software just doesn’t allow it), I just hit delete because it’s not worth my time. Have I deleted you before? I honestly don’t know because I just don’t look at addresses, and again, you seldom use your real name so how would I know? Has one of the other 13 moderators deleted you? I don’t know. I give them free reign to make decisions on their own. (Yes there are thirteen, (13), THIRTEEN other people who have the ability to delete messages) If you’re wondering, no, I generally have no idea what they delete, because again, the site doesn’t archive deleted posts. I trust them to make good decisions. Would I agree with every decision they make to delete a post or a thread? No way. There have been numerous times when I thought a thread or a comment was fine only to come back the next day to find it’s been deleted. I disagreed with their decision, but it’s gone and there’s no use crying over spilled milk. I value their help with the page and I’m not going to micro-manage them. Mistakes will sometimes be made. C’est La Vie. All that to say I have no idea how many times you’ve been deleted in the history of this page… I just know of the ONE. That is the ONE and ONLY time where I know I deleted you. Here’s the funny thing… you’re saying you get deleted often by one of the 14 of us (13 others and myself). So basically you’re admitting it’s a pattern of behavior? Um, OK. You would have thought you’d figure it out by now, you’re a bright guy.
So you’re mad at me because someone else bullied you after a post and either myself or one of the other THIRTEEN moderators deleted it? OK, let’s talk about it: sometime a moderator will delete a thread when it’s gone so far off the rails. Based on your obsessive responses to my father (and his as well) with the FDR comments, you probably contributed to some of the threads going off the rails. I say this often on the page but it’s very, very simple, don’t respond to the bad comments and simply email me and let me know and I’ll take a look at them. If I think they are over the line I’ll delete them (That is unless one of the other THIRTEEN moderators hasn’t already deleted the comments).There are proper channels to deal with it, but you haven’t used those. Also, there are times when I ‘m busy, I can’t instantaneously delete ever bad post. I have a life and there are times when life gets in the way. I try to get caught up every day (usually not a regularly on Sunday) but some things slip through the cracks.
Again, he didn’t libel you because you were hiding in the shadows of anonymity. No reputation wrecked because you don’t even use a consistent username. As for who started the bickering… what are you 5 years old? Mom, he started it! It takes two to tango Dave. Simply accept your role in it. I deleted you both, but only one of you is crying.
Cry me a river! You’re preaching to the choir. I’ve been trashed by actual name more than any single person on this page. It seems to be your obsessive hobby lately… you… trashing me by name, libeling me… repeatedly… anonymously. However, I’m not afraid to use my name. I’ve never seen your “good reputation” get trashed when you’ve actually used your name (see any correlation there? That’s right, it’s less likely when you use your real name… weird!). Also, your solution to bad behavior is to join the darkside and add more bad behavior? Kudos for such a good productive plan. Well done. Again, what are you 5 years old? As for negative post about my father or myself… use the search feature I’m sure you could find tons of them that are still on the site. You’ll also find THOUSANDS of posts I disagree with. Yes, literally THOUSANDS, but here they are… posted everywhere on my own website.
Where did I say Dick was absolved of all his sins? I’ve stated numerous times that I’ve deleted him as well. I’d actually be willing to wager that I’ve deleted my father more than anyone else on this page (it’s probably because it’s 100% on me to delete him because the other moderator don’t have the guts to do it… even though they have the power  . I’ve also said the same about myself, I’ve deleted plenty of my own posts over the years where I’ve stepped out of line. Case in point about my father, I didn’t deleted the thread where you and Dick bickered about FDR. I left it up to let people make their own decisions about the childish bickering.
I can’t go back and read it… it’s deleted. As I said in the post above, I interpreted it as snide sarcasm. Maybe that’s not how you intended it, but that’s how I saw it. Am I infallible? No. I make mistakes just like the THIRTEEN other moderators. You contend your post was just a friendly jest, I contend that your recent writings and bickering show a level of anger, contempt, and jealousy towards my father & myself and that there was nothing friendly or fun about it… we can agree to disagree and I’ll let your many, many, many, recent comments about the Morgan’s speak for themselves. As for that same 15 to 20 year old NTPA topic that my father posted, I’m bored with it too, that’s why I didn’t read it and I didn’t respond to it. Easy enough to ignore. You can do the same. (Like most will with this long post) Here’s are some helpful tips:
Now that the helpful tips are over let me make a few things crystal clear so we're all on the same (figurative) page... I make mistakes too, sometimes I’m in a bad mood, sometimes I’m annoyed and sometimes I just get ticked off by stupidity. I'm human after-all. Dealing with smart people doing stupid things usually brings out... a less than favorable... attitude in me (in real life too). You’re a smart guy and you’re acting like a petulant child over this. That’s the type of behavior really gets my goat. Your idiotic “joke” post was one of those times. This isn’t the agree with me website, but you dam well better be respectful when your in my house. If you (or anyone else) wants to call this site trash, I’ll simply throw those comments in the trash. If you want to anonymously bash me I’ll throw those comments in the trash too. Remember, you're in MY house whenever you’re on this page. I created it. I own it. I’ve paid all the bills since day one. I’ve done the programming for thousands of hours for free. I lose money on it every single month to benefit this motorsport. It’s not Dick’s page (despite what many think), it’s not everyone’s page (despite what many think... I'm clearly not a socialist)… it’s MY F-ing page (is that clear enough?). I let you play here for FREE and you come here and act like an ungrateful spoiled child. That’s my unfiltered (barn language)… nearing the end of my rope attitude towards your recent actions. I can throw your digital ass to the curb if I choose and honestly I don’t really need to give you an explanation or even need to respond to you because these are MY rules and this is MY house (again, is that clear enough?). I do my best to be a benevolent dictator of this site to further this motorsport. I cherish the community that has contributed to this site and has helped make this site the most useful free resource that it possibly can be (I only wish I had more programming skills to make it better). I continue to invest time and money in this site because I appreciate all those who have given so, so many positive contributions. All that said, when the dust settles, it's my name on the door, and only my name, so remember to be respectful in my house because there are too many other great people on this site. I won't let any bad apples spoil the bunch for everyone else. So I hope that clears up any confusion you (or anyone still reading this nonsense) may have had about the rules of this site. I'd also like to be clear... The only reason I’m even taking the time to respond to you is because I respect you and I think you can add great content to the page (I know you can). I have a very, very, very long fuse but if you continue to push your juvenile rhetoric I will reach the end of my patience at some point. So I’ll end this here and reiterate that I’d still love for you to continue to use the page productively and in a positive manner, and I hold no grudges or ill will towards you in any way. In fact as I looked through some of your posts when I looked up your IP last week I found that I enjoyed a vast majority of them. I honestly don't know why you didn't use your name so many times when you had so many great things to say. Again, posting with your actual name generally earns you respect, even when we disagree. The ball is in your court, you need to move past this so we can move forward. If not you can always start you own free site and put this one out of business (Lord knows I could use the extra time). God Bless Dave, I hope you can move forward and stay a solid and productive part of this online community. Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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The English teacher in me would like to point out that libel is written, while slander is spoken. John Murray Two-time Pedal Pull World Champion Let's Go Pulling, covering the sport of pulling in Kentucky, Tennessee, and Alabama. Watch LGP on YouTube Like LGP on Facebook
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