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What opinions specifically? My stance is there are different stroke for different folks... we seem to agree on that. My opinion is that some classes are fun to watch and others aren't... we seem to agree on that too. Personally I usually enjoy tractor classes more than non-tractor classes, I'm guessing we agree on that too. SSO and SSD combining... yeah, I've been lobbying for that for years. "Light Unlimited are a joke", yeah I've been saying that for years now, the rules are terrible and it has so much potential if it had good rules. As for tradition being a reason not to change, totally agree. If SF was putting on a bad show I'd say change them. However they put on a great show for their HP level and it's a class that can comes down to the last hook every pull because it's so competitive. I also agree that there have been years where there were way too many SF. Infact I think we can agree that huge classes can get pretty boring sometimes. As for the NFMS changing things up... yeah, I wrote about that years before they did it... I kinda wrote a blueprint actually and we also agree that they did a great job. Could you remind me what classes they dropped at the Farm show? None. They simply added classes and limited numbers, however they have the ability to limit numbers... something kind of exclusive to an invitational event, something BG can't do as a points hook. I've also said that I think there's a place for regional classes at BG, something I think we also agree on. I also agree that Light Pro have pretty much caught SF in numbers... I think we can agree they'd have a great turnout at BG. I also agree that Light Pro would be a great addition to BG... but again how? Cancelling the classes that you (and some others) don't like. Well sure I'd love to cancel classes that I don't like too but that's not a great idea... here's why: I know people who's favorite class is 2wd. They come to BG specifically because it's one of the biggest (if not the biggest) 2wd classes in the world (this is a fact, not an opinion). They think that if you've seen one tractor class you've seen them all (their opinion, not mine). There are tons of people that only enjoy the screaming sound of a blown V-8... some prefer naturally asperated. Again, their opinion, not mine... I'd turbocharge everything  .
If you canceled the truck classes guess what happens? Guess? All the truck fans stay home. ALL of them. Not some of them, pretty much all of them. That puts a significant dent in ticket sales. You guys say the stands empty when they pull... well lets be generous and say half the people don't watch those classes (realistically 30% might leave but lets just say half)... lets say half of those still in the stands are just too lazy to get up but still hate those classes. That leaves 25% that still enjoy watching those classes... that would still be a pretty big dent in ticket sales. If half of those decided not to come that would be a huge loss in sales. A 10-15% loss is HUGE. Clearly plenty of people do enjoy them because they do have truck pulls all over this country and people show up, maybe not you, or Rightreartire or dmax47, but clearly others do or they wouldn't have those pulls. The point you guys seem to be missing is that variety fills more seats and sells more tickets. There are truck guys, tractor guys, mod guys (yes there are sub-groups within those general groups: diesel vs. alky, 2wd vs 4wd, multi turbo vs single turbo, etc... but those are the rough divisions in the fan base). The tractor guys... guess what, you'll come anyway and you'll walk around when the trucks pull. The pull already has got your gate money so if your butt is in the seat or walking the pits they don't really care as long as you're at the event and having fun. Infact if you're walking the midway and spending extra money that's even better because you're supporting the vendors that have paid rent to be there and now those vendors will make a profit and come back. When the tractors pull truck guys will do the same thing. How many tractor guys stay home because they don't have Light Pros? Some, but not too many. Would it make the show better, I sure think so, but once again, how can we fit them in... haulers, support vehicles, schedule wise... As the pull currently stands the logistics outweigh the benefit even if I really, really want them there. We've already discussed canceling classes and it's a net loss and that why Louisville didn't cancel classes either. As for the "once you watch 5, you've seen them all and fallen asleep" that theRightRearTire183 said... how about you have a session with Hot Farm, Super Farm, Limited Pro, Light Pro, and Pro Stock and then ask the truck fans or mod fan how good the show was. Or maybe ask the mod fans? How about you ask a casual fan what classes they just watched... heck some of them may think they just watched one giant class where the ones at the end seemed to run better. Yes, I'd know the differences and you guys would probably know the differences but to many fans (the majority) in the seats it would all just blur together. As for trading the SF for Light Pro... sure I think Light Pro put on a better show (something we also probably agree on) but it's not a net gain for the promotor because it's just a simple trade that appeals to roughly the same crowd. The promotor gains nothing monetarily and they've excluded a GN class for a Regional one. They've kicked out a class that has a 20 year tradition of putting on a great show.. punished them when they've been loyal (huge numbers every year) and done a good job... those are things that seem like great attributes and you want to exclude them? I respect that consistence and loyalty and I sure couldn't exclude them. From an employer standpoint I'd hope no-one would treat a loyal and hardworking employee like that just because a better worker came on the scene... I'd hope you find a way to hire both instead of firing someone who's supported you for 20 years and showed up ready to work every single year and has done consistent good work. What opinions specifically don't you agree with? if it's cancelling classes please explain how it would be a net gain for the event. If it's adding more classes to the current schedule explain how you would do it logistically. If it's something else please let me know. Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. 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I didn't thumbs down it, but the idea of an all truck day and an all tractor day is a poor business move for a promoter, you would have inconsistent crowd numbers and in turn it's hard on concessions and vendors too. The reality is that if we all liked the same things it would be a boring world. Variety makes you appreciate all things and makes you appreciate those things you like the most, more. No doubt a class you don't like may be an opportunity to get up and stretch your legs and get a deep fried twinkle but the class you enjoy is that same opportunity for someone else. It really takes all of us. Bryan Lively - 
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I look at this from a completely different angle. In theory, you drop the two smaller classes at BG and bring in 4.1 and Light Pro...what you have likely done is exchange 30ish hooks for 60-75 more hooks, maybe more. Where you gonna park the haulers? Whose willing to give up their campsites for a row of haulers? When will you run them? Start the noon sessions at 10am? Mind you, I enjoy both classes, but the logistics in adding and subtracting the puzzle pieces that make up BG are kinda mind-numbing and a bunch of people at a higher pay grade and greater level of responsibility face those dilemmas...better them than me. Bryan Lively -
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