09:17:46pm, Monday, December 08, 2025
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Are pullers going to get any fullpullbets money in 2025?
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Curiousj
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Will full pull bets give money to the pullers this year? This was sold as a way to grow the sport. When is the money goimg to trickle down to the people with skin in the game? Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/07/2025 09:18AM by Dick Morgan. |
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Re: Are pullers going to get any fullpullbets money in 2025?
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,824 |
I'm guessing (guessing) that Fullpull Entertainment paid money to the NTPA for the exclusive media rights. I would ask the NTPA how much did they get, did it go into the points fund, did it go for the NTPA's overhead, operating expenses. Like I said I'm just guessing. Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News |
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Posts: 108 |
It's not that cut and dry when it comes to money to the pullers. It's no different than the big time gambling companies in bed with the big sports leagues. You think the players/athletes show up to the front door of HQ for FanDuel, BetMGM, DraftKings, etc asking for their cut? The more consumers spend, the more money available through sponsorship to give to the sanctioning bodies to spread out. Whatever your opinion of FullPull or gambling is, the fact is the better FullPull does, the more money they have to give back. |
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,824 |
One, the athlete's sign a contract with their respective teams, not any betting platform. If you want to make any comparison then you should be talking about the better.
And it IS fairly cut and dried. IF the NTPA got money then it's pretty simple, were is the money? And I have no opinion on truck and tractor pulling betting. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/07/2025 09:50AM by Dick Morgan. |
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Posts: 108 |
The players also sign a contract with the oh so dreaded U-word that allows the leagues to use their name and likeness in conjuction with those gambling companies and makes sure the players get their percentage of the revenue. In reply to where the money is, I already said where it is, through the sponsorship. Unless a sanctioning body puts it in writing to give back a percentage of what FullPull makes |
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,824 |
So you are saying the NTPA kept the money for sponsorship ( not sure what that means ) or give back a percentage ( not sure what that means either) . So did the pullers get any? |
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Posts: 108 |
What I'm saying is unless NTPA has it in writing to get back a percentage of revenue, the only money FullPull is going to give back is a sponsorship. Like any other sponsor, that money then goes towards the contingency program, which allows more funds towards end of the year checks pullers receive. The better FullPull does, the bigger allowance they have to sponsor NTPA with. |
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,824 |
Fullpull Entertainment is not a sponsor, they paid for the media rights. They are not sponsoring anything, it was a business deal, they give money to the NTPA for certain rights. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/07/2025 10:54AM by Dick Morgan. |
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Posts: 108 |
This thread isnt about the media rights deal. You just answered your own question in terms of how the money goes back to pulling that route anyways. |
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So, basically the answer is Zero! |
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Moneyless
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Like the majority of charities now days.. the money doesnt go to help what the charity is supposed to help... it goes to the people running it! |
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Re: Are pullers going to gey any fullpullbets money in 2025?
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OG
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So purses are going up in 2025 in a percentage approximating the increase in NBA, MLB, NFL, PGA, etc?? |
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PS fan
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I wish they would take some of the gambling revenue and hire a few camera operators and producers that would help at the events to improve their production quality. Last night in Florida was pretty rough. |
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Questions
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Moderator Registered: 07/06/2008 Posts: 1,692 |
I'm not sure how to get accurate metrics, but this was sold as a way of getting more eyes on the sport. Here are several questions.
1) How many unique individuals are placing bets? 2) How many were not already following pulling? 3)Were financial inducements/fees or whatever is the correct term paid to the organizations (or individual leaders of organizations) to get them to agree to use the platform? 4) With the removal of mom and pop videos from youtube for events taped by full pull, it is obvious how that helps full pull, but does the removal of a video on youtube where a non-fan could see current pulls really grow the sport? 5) Is the tech behind the platform developed in the U.S., or by Chinese or other foreign companies? For example, Tik Tok captures every keystroke from a user. As to #5, I suspect many U.S. companies unknowingly use tech that gives away all sorts of data. |
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Agree
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Agree 100%, starting line camera was awful. |
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Hot take
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That was Mr. Jason Schultz, jack of all trades master of none. Loved to dip his toes into a little bit of everything… yanno… anything to make a Facebook post about! |
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Yikes
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He’s the first to promote things, but also the first to jump ship and say “that’s not my problem”. I think he does a lot of good but at the same time… |
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Re: Are pullers going to get any fullpullbets money in 2025?
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cry baby
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I enjoyed the stream. thankful someone is doing it. people like you would complain about anything... |
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Slothpull
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I’ll agree! The stream was good! For an hour then it shut off and never came back on the first night. They never even made a statement saying sorry or we are trying to fix it. Waste of time. FullPull livestreams always have some kind of malfunction. Until then, get better. |
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Hey man, you mentioned the stream going down. Everyone I know was able to watch the entire show Friday night, first green to last red. Sometimes users may experience internet issues on their own side of things. My recommendation in this situation would be to refresh your browser. I have also learned different browsers (such as google chrome) can make a better streaming experience.
If the livestream would have gone down there would have been a flood of emails and comments about it. If you need tech support reach out to info@fullpull.us |
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Stan miller
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Idk, it went down for me too, never came back up |
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Registered: 01/30/2025 Posts: 5 |
Mine went down and so did my dad's, tried refreshing and everything, it was getting good too! |
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Didn’t work here either
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Mine was out after the first three classes and never came back on |
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TAP
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe pullers had to do one more ounce of work with them than without them.
The only things I noticed were better streaming, better commentary and more exposure. Although event payouts didn't change (and that's good for promoters), I did notice points payouts were higher than ever. So, money did trickle down to pullers! |
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yep
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you got more Points fund $ because NTPA had more '24 sponsors. |
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TAP
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Which is probably related to media rights payments they didn't have before and more exposure than before. |
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Posts: 108 |
Is there an echo in here? |
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how much money we even talking about
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Face in crowd
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Before all of the angst and hand wringing gets out of control, we can't be talking about a whole lot of revenue here. I couldn't find any records but I'm sure Nascar betting is a tiny fraction of what is bet on the NFL or college football. And tractor pull betting is a small fraction of what is bet on Nascar. Then people think that whatever money is left over after winners and operating expenses are paid, should be divided amongst the pullers? LOL. Those checks are gonna have a number. Then a dot. And then two numbers behind that. |
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Re: how much money we even talking about
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Moderator Registered: 07/06/2008 Posts: 1,692 |
Then what's the point of the organizations aligning with Full Pull Bets if there is no tangible benefit to the puller? |
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Re: how much money we even talking about
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Registered: 08/16/2021 Posts: 474 |
I think Full Pull has done great things for the sport. If nothing else their live streams are great, the podcase is fantastic, they are keeping us interested in the sport year round, and every person involved in Full Pull genuinely loves pulling.
The money side of things, who knows, I hope one day it helps the pullers somehow but the reality is that they have done nothing but good for the sport in their short existence. |
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Badgerfan
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I hate to point out the obvious here but why do you think the points fund was bigger this year? More sponsors in 24, definitely. Why do you think they have more sponsors? Bigger foot print, more exposure, and viewers? I wonder where that came from, maybe FullPull bets and there advertising, betting, and live stream? Yeah the money from betting should go back to the pullers and they should cover there expenses to run there company how?
Increase in payout may not be a cash money check from FullPull but might come from more sponsors for the sanctioning bodies, pullers, and more fan exposure for selling merch? Were only a couple years in and already seeing a difference in sponsors but were still complaining how bad they are? I am also noticing most of the complaints are coming from fans and moderators while the pullers seem to defend it on most occasions. hmmm |
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Registered: 04/04/2008 Posts: 659 |
Part of the reason for more sponsorship is a guy named Dan Schroer, Dan has been working very hard on getting sponsors for NTPA.
S'no Farmer |
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Registered: 03/26/2008 Posts: 554 |
Right on the money, Todd |
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TAP
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I'm sure most of you have seen the e-mails by now. It appears there's now actually a NTPA program that is taking some of the monies from the streaming services and giving it back to the pullers in each event, on top of the event purse. Now you have to pay to get in the program but there's automatic value given back even if you don't qualify for the extra purse. |
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how so
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How so? Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/05/2025 11:39PM by mh49. |
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TAP
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Year-end event events tickets and accommodations, hero cards, additional crew member licenses, auto entry, entry fee reimbursement...etc |
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,824 |
I certainly don't understand all the details, however from a 50 mile high view it looks like a good thing for the pullers and the NTPA. Anything that puts more money into the points fund and the operating expenses of the organizations is a very good thing
I won't pretend to fully understand the pullers buying into the program, however the pullers can buy in or not. Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/07/2025 09:02AM by Dick Morgan. |
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