Some observations from the NFMS. February 19, 2025 08:18AM
I had several observations from the 2025 NFMS. Lets start with the visual aspect of pulling. The time that a vehicle is on the track that the tractor is actually pulling is sometimes less than 20 seconds. Pulling needs to capture that 20 second time to impress the fans. The class that I noticed that had the least amount of graphics was the PS class. Not sure why, but most of the class all look the same when they are going down down the track. I will say it again they ALL look the same. Pulling is in the business of entertainment, the competition for motorsports fans is intense, pulling is losing that battle.


Dick Morgan

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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 19, 2025 08:27AM
I agree, I’ve been saying that for a while, I understand that they like the clean look and they are beautiful pieces of work,but I sure wish they would all do something to be unique, if you are at a pull and can’t hear the announcer and are at the end of the track you probably have no idea who it is unless it’s the Massey’s or a Moline, and yes I know I didn’t write the million dollar check but if I did I’d sure want it to stand out.
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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 19, 2025 10:36AM
Looks like a lot of money is being spent on shiny stuff under the hood that you only see when the hood is up in the pits, from the outside they pretty much all look alike, except for the hood being one of the 2 red colors, green, or yellow in the pro stocks.
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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 19, 2025 12:34PM
Will Jake be posting his pictures from NFMS ‘25 on the site? Glad yall had a good time at the pulls.
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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 19, 2025 12:36PM
Does sponsoring a pulling vehicle by a manufacturer of a product that's available for sale on a national market ever produce a net gain in dollars.id have no idea how that could be tracked,and I would confidently say it doesn't, it's a tax write off
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Art is dead February 19, 2025 01:55PM
The days of simple but elegant artwork is all but gone. If someone does attempt something to dress up a tractor, it usually turns into some sort of gawdy computer generated wrap. There’s some super sharp rides out there but I’m just wondering when will the rat rod look sweep thru the pulling world?
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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 19, 2025 02:14PM
Year over year complaint, the ceiling tiles helped with the visuals, but if anything the actual audio volume/clarity was worse than normal. Sat one section down low mid track and one upper level towards the finish line
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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 19, 2025 11:21PM
Not sure what this has to do with the topic.


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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 20, 2025 03:37AM
Yes the tractors/trucks in my opinion were much cooler in the late 80's through the 90's, most had there own unique paint job with cool graphics and a lot had really cool detailed hand painted murals. There is more attention to under hood details now with all the billet and CNC parts which look cool but do nothing for horsepower and are very spendy $$ to look cool, then throw the latest and greatest hood on it and call it good, getting very repetitive. It's hard to tell a lot of them apart anymore.
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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 20, 2025 04:05AM
"There is more attention to under hood details now with all the billet and CNC parts which look cool but do nothing for horsepower and are very spendy $$ to look cool, then throw the latest and greatest hood on it and call it good, getting very repetitive. It's hard to tell a lot of them apart anymore."

I can't believe I just read that. There is a reason for the billet and CNC parts - and it is not solely for looks!!! The whole purpose of the way things are built now is so they look professional, and perform well. They are also much easier to work on as a rule. And they don't leak oil/fuel/water/exhaust everywhere all the time. It's called evolution. Trying to do better all the time.

If you want the 70's and 80's, build a friggin time machine!!! It's amazing that people will complain that things look too clean and shiny. Give me a break.......
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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 20, 2025 04:27AM
I can't believe I just read THAT... yes there is a functional aspect, but you can't seriously think that there isn't a TON of extra machining cost put into these things purely for appearance's sake. Never mind the polishing which never has a functional purpose. You think it's "professional," I think it's ridiculous. Of course the owners can spend their money how they want, that's their right. I guess it's probably better for competition that they waste money on shiny bits (which ultimately don't get you farther down the track) than stick even more money in the performance parts that DO matter for everyone. But I better never hear the billet crew complain about the cost of pulling as they show up in their custom murdered-out Pete hauler and roll out the tractor with a billet intercooler made to look like a sculpture of Lady Godiva. Give me home-built, rough-around-the-edges ingenuity and open trailers any day.

And believe me, if I could have a time machine, I would already be there...
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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 20, 2025 04:43AM
Beg pardon, I have no problem with people making parts go ahead a lot of the time you have too but like under pressure said do you have to make it out of billet aluminum then polish it to look like a mirror.... no if you want too that's fine but give me a break it's not necessary and does the person sitting up in the stands think "wow that looks professional" especially since you can't see under the hood going down the track, no. And I'm not complaining about things being too clean or shiny, I'm probably one of the biggest clean & neat freaks there is. I'm just saying people complain about the cost of this sport and there being no cheap beginner class ( which is true ) I can see a lot $ being spent on stuff that isn't necessary.
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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 20, 2025 06:48AM
The post was ALL about the visual aspect of the vehicles going DOWN the track. It's all about what the fans see sitting in the stands. The post was never about what's under the sheet metal.


Dick Morgan

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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 20, 2025 04:57AM
RIP Villio.
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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 20, 2025 08:35AM
I personally like the clean slick look. But would agree that these newer prostocks are getting very similar in look. Other hooded classes are kind of the same. To dicks point he also doesn't like the cross dressing of brands. But as a puller myself if I'm going to build a component style tractor I like the idea of being able to put a JD or IH or cummins or whatever else platform someone might choose for power under a different manufacturers hood simply because I want durability and top performance, but I also might like the look of a different brand that No one else has. I like the look of a new Duetz tractor but sure as heck aren't going to try and figure out how to make that engine compete in the prostock class, when I have alot better idea how to make a JD run.
So until everyone gets done with the problem of crossdressing it will probably continue to be kind of bland looking.
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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 20, 2025 09:24AM
Solid Junk gets mentioned several times a year but never those sharp ones.



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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 20, 2025 11:31AM
Here’s what is really crazy, everyone always complains about the 2WD trucks but they have the most variety of anything going down the track. Body styles, colors, year/models, wraps, paint, etc. Just my two cents from a distance.
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Re: Some observations from the NFMS. February 20, 2025 12:03PM
I find it amusing that the people complaining about people trying to make a tractor look nice are the same ones complaining about the looks of the tractor. Maybe they should all throw away the fancy machined parts and slap a big sticker on the hood so you don’t get confused on what tractor you are watching. If the announcer didn’t announce that the class changed I wouldn’t know a difference.

More truck classes would be nice to see. They are easy to tell apart.
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