07:21:12pm, Saturday, March 14, 2026
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Tomah Rant.
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plb
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I know the Tomah board checks this site for comments, so I will give mine. Fridays one track debacle in the afternoon was a bad decision, I mean, at least try to send a few tractors down the track and see what would happen. 2WD trucks really got shafted in my book too. some there all week and didn`t even get a hook?? Really??!!
another is the really stupid rule that you take all your your things between afternoon and evening sessions, what moron came up with that?? It does not hurt anyone or anything to leave your things in place. Also, one more thing, The ticket crap is really old and over priced now. paying alot more at the gate is unfair along with the $5 beers. End of rant. If you tell me to stay home, I just might do that. |
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Lawn mower
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2 wheel drive trucks are dumb to watch anyway no body missed them couldn’t you put them with the lawn mowers |
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Registered: 05/03/2015 Posts: 19 |
Not if you are a supercharged guy. I prefer twd mini and mods. If nobody likes them why do they keep booking them?? Oh wait the $$$. Entry fee and membership. Ntpa gets 44 memberships at average $1000 = 44,000. Plus $57 per day entry. Yeah it’s about the money because they sure don’t respect them with running regional classes before any Gn class. |
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Rail bird
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What I am amazed by is the fact that they can’t start on time!! Even giving them a mulligan on Friday with the track conditions , they still could not start on time on Saturday. If you know your shows are running long, 5-6 hours each . Why would you not get. Your first tractor down the track at published start time instead of 15 minutes after?? Also why would not have 2 separate track crews instead of one for both tracks?? That was a real bottleneck that never was addressed all weekend. Anyway, prostock Friday night/Saturday morning was great! Too bad only300-400 people got to see it. |
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Dumbfounded
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You must know something the rest of us don’t know about how to hold off INCHES of rain. And how to suck moisture out of a track when it’s already a mud hole. Is it unfortunate things fell the way they did, yes. However, some of it is out of human hands. If they would have spent 3 hours pulling the TWD class late in the afternoon and then moved the start time for the night session back 2 hours you would have complained about that too. I really just don’t understand some people’s thoughts about how all of this stuff works. I’ve pulled all my life, literally been sitting hooked to the sled when the sky cuts loose to be told that’s it. Unhook and load. Unfortunately the weather does what it wants when it wants |
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redhead
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One thing I found kinda silly is why pull super farm and 4.1 limited pro at the same time as well as light mods and unlimiteds on like Friday night session, most two track shows run a smoker ( tractor/semi ) class on one track side and a noise class ( trucks/mods ) on the other track side to keep the crowds interest and have a very visible difference from one track to another just kinda common sense. To the average joe blow in the stand super farm and 4.1 look very similar as well as mod and unlimiteds. Also running the unlimiteds on a wet track that hadn't been used at at all during the day Friday night and only letting them go 270-280 feet while espn was filming was probably kinda dumb, switching that classes track around with the light mods and running them on pit side would of been a much better showing, just a thought |
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xxx
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Running region classes on Friday and Saturday night at a super national event is just ridiculous. There are Grand national classes there that did not run on those nights and should have !!!! |
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Moderator Registered: 07/06/2008 Posts: 1,785 |
To be fair, Bowling Green has ran light supers and open supers at the same time before. I agree with you, with that many classes there's no reason to do it that way. |
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,922 |
For a SN pull there sure seems to be a few things that are very basic. Never, ever run two mod classes at the same time, same with SS tractors. In fact try not to run to hooded tractors at the same time, yes I know that some times thats unavoidable, how with so many national classes its not impossible. And never run a non-national class on the last session of the event. These are pretty simple things that shouldn't be hard to figure out. Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/30/2025 06:40AM by Dick Morgan. |
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Moderator Registered: 07/06/2008 Posts: 1,785 |
And, getting my annual Bowling Green pet peeve in, never have 2 vehicles pulling down the track at the same time. If I wanted to watch a drag race, I would have gone to Norwalk. |
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Just Sayin’
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So, this is the GALAXY TOUR? Great start to the year - Benson gets cancelled and Tomah is a sh*t show. So, do things happen that are out of your control? Yes. But how you respond IS in your control. 2WD (any GN class) should’ve been run before any RN class - but particularly because they hadn’t hooked yet. Yes, weather forecast was good….but that didn’t matter did it? I’m gonna guess Greg, Marvin, and others have been taking call after call. You’re gonna honestly tell me they’d done the same thing the pro stocks were in the same situation? I don’t think so.
And another thing (ranting), the track crew is not equipped to prepare TWO tracks - and it rains literally EVERY year at Tomah. If they had 2 sets of track prep equipment , you could’ve put more focus time into it. Get real…… |
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Teaming e
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I thought Tomah was great ! Did it have its issues? Yes did they still pull off a great show ? Yes people just need to bitch about something , we should all work to enjoy it while it lasts! I’m guilty of complaining too but at the end of the day we are all fortunate to get to see any of it ! |
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,922 |
Teaming e: I totally disagree, when you pay money to see any event (pulling or otherwise) you should expect to see a good show, to get your monies worth. That's one of the problems with this sport, we're just be happy we see a show. Where is the insensitive to improve the sport? Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News |
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Team one
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Ok Dick, so you paid your money to see the show but there are still variables beyond anyone’s control and it doesn’t work out exactly how it should then what? Cancel once everyone is in the venue? Give them all of their money back ? We both know that’s not a sustainable plan, I guess for me the entry fee is one of the smaller dollar value items when you figure in fuel and camping for the weekend food drinks etc.. had the whole weekend rained out I’m out that money too but it didn’t, pulling depends on weather and as a dedicated fan you take your chances just like everyone else there if it rains … that’s life I don’t feel like I’m owed anything from anyone , I took the chance and did I walk up to Vaughn Bauer after his sled broke on Saturday night and demand he hand me my money back for the 2wd session ? No I took a chance on that also, I have driven 5 plus hours to watch it rain and just turned around and went home again that’s life and in all honesty the show was of much worse quality in Hutchinson, the pits were full of great equipment but they fumbled on the track prep and really had no good excuse at least Tomah had a significant amount of rain to speak of and they still made a show of it but I’m guessing 80% of the people on here complaining weren’t even there to understand that, it’s easy to complain when you sat on your couch to watch a live stream but that all makes sense because you didn’t walk through the muddy campground and the muddy pits to get to a track that they somehow managed to get into usable shape yet again, but you complain about “the investment” without having spent the time and money to actually be there. I guess what it comes down to is some of us are more dedicated than others and understand that life isn’t fair, but I understand and appreciate everyone’s efforts at the end of the day because if things didn’t work out I know it wasn’t intentional, everyone many of them volunteers did they best they knew how to put on a show Tomah is second to none as far putting in the effort and second to none at putting on a show a person should really be there to find that out! |
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Registered: 02/23/2012 Posts: 590 |
And Norwalk was great as usual,and nothing wrong with a good side by side pull either! |
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Face in crowd
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A lot of fans enjoy the spectacle of two vehicles going down the track side by side. It's a very rare thing in the pulling world. And not any more dangerous than sending a light super stock down one track as a tractor and roller are driving the opposite direction packing down the interior side of the other track. I think it's OK to run two vehicles at the same time if it works out that way, but track officials should know not to do it if it's a bad track and vehicles are bouncing or getting pulled toward the other track. |
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Mc
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NO IT IS NOT OK TO RUN TWO AT THE SAME TIME, EVER, YOU WANT TO SEE THAT @#$%& GO TO A GD ASPHALT TRACK FFS, TRACTOR PULLING IS NOT, NOR WILL IT EVER BE DRAG RACING WHERE TWO AT A TIME IS THE NORM, YOU FOOL. I HAVE SPOKEN THEREFORE IT SHALL BE. |
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Face in crowd
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I'll type this real slow for you so that you will understand it. The pullers do not actually race. It is not an actual drag race. And don't be an idiot, turn off your caps lock. |
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Registered: 09/26/2021 Posts: 98 |
Bowling Green doesn’t intentionally send both tracks at the same time. They are ran independently of each other and sometimes the timing syncs up. The goal is to run them through quick and efficiently because of the number of competitors. |
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Moderator Registered: 07/06/2008 Posts: 1,785 |
They need one person in charge in the headsets advising which track to run. Jake has suggested a system where the sled doesn't light green until the call is given. Being in your own little world oblivious to what is happening just feet away is a safety issue and should have no place in a motorsport with such high horsepower involved. Just because the unthinkable hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't. As an aside, we're talking about offsetting by 20-30 seconds. The effect on show time should be minor. It takes much more time waiting for a pro stock or diesel FWD to hook than waiting til one puller's pass is complete. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/30/2025 04:11PM by The Original Michael. |
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Badgerfan
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My rants for the weekend, ticket prices are pushing the limit. Yeah everything is more expensive but can you imagine bringing a family of 5 for an afternoon or the weekend? It will break the bank with the price of tickets and a burger.
The ticket booth, buy your ticket at the booth, 3 plus people taking money. Then take the receipt to the 1 guy with a scanner, yes only 1 scanner, who scans your receipt you were just given, if it is raining the scanner won't read the wet receipt, then go to the person handing out the wrist bands who is constantly back tracking to the scanner guy to make sure you are getting the right wrist band, and yes only 1 wrist band person. All this with nor organized line. Not to mention having to give your phone number or email to get a ticket or you don't get in. My biggest rant the pace of the track prep. It takes forever to level the track after a hook, not to mention how slow the leveler and the packer go. It is agonizing to watch and sit through. Then to go down to 1 track on Friday and move everything to that 1 track and still watch the extremely slow pace of the track crew. It is horrible! If it was done right you could have 1 leveler and packer at the start and one at the finish line, the first half of the track prep starts before the hook is even completed and track is ready before the sled even gets back to the start line. By the time he is back the finish line is almost done. |
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Registered: 04/03/2016 Posts: 832 |
Did ya ever think about trying to help? Just asking. |
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,922 |
I'm always confused when someone says " did you offer to help ".. NO, when you go to Walmart and the checkout lines are backed up do you open up another line and start checking people out, of course not. It's ridiculous to say the least.
You bought a ticket, you paid money expecting a service in return. Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News |
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Registered: 09/26/2021 Posts: 98 |
I believe what Supertiquer means is that the group that puts the pull on is a volunteer group.. And they are always looking for more volunteers.. Supertiquer apologies if I’m wrong. But it is the truth either way. |
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Registered: 04/03/2016 Posts: 832 |
Yes it is the truth either way!!! NO ONE KNOWS THE WORK INVOLVED IN PUTTING A PULL ON UNTIL THEY HAVE DONE IT THEMSELVES!!!!!!And I have never put a pull on but have seen over the last 32 years what the promotor has to go through. They get bitched at for many things that are beyond their control!!! |
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Badgerfan
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Supertiquer, If you have read any of my posts you would know I have helped with/volunteered for several events. Not to mention I also pull at several events that are 100 percent volunteer local non profit fundraisers. I offered my constructive criticism in hopes they may look at them and try to improve for next year like anyone else in this post.
How is having 3 money people, 1 scanner, and 1 wrist band lady (serving 100 people in line) why'd we take a 1 person job and turn it into a 3 or 4 person job, or pace of track prep beyond their control? Volunteer or not they are a premier event (second to Bowling Green?) that has been going for 50 years that we pay top dollar to see. I am pretty sure we can bring up issues that need to be looked at or improved. |
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Rudy Linthorst
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Regarding the track preparation.
On Monday Tomah was hit bad with heavy rain, they even closed the pit because of it. What do you think about the ground around the pulling track. Then Tuesday was kinda a dry day I believe so things could dry a little. Wednesday some drizzling, but manageable. I was there around noon. Thursday the entire day was kinda good/dry, but around 4 you could see clouds coming in. In that dry period the track crew prepared the track and they were struggling!! After finishing the work they put tarp on the track. At 5 Mother Nature dumped a lot of water for 30-45 minutes. Around 6 the people in charge cancelled session 1 and 30 minutes later it started to rain again for a while. Best decision the people could make!!!! I was late at the grounds on Friday morning, but both tracks seemed to be soft, but hey what do you expect with that amount of rain they got!!! It does not matter if you cover the track, but the water will come from the side too if it gets too wet!!! I want to take my hat of for the track crew, because they did their best considering the circumstances!!! Thanks for putting in the time and effort!!! If it was this easy everybody would/could do this! Can't wait to come back! |
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Re: Tomah Rant.
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plb
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Rudy, not bad mouthing the track crew at all, Heck, I was part of that crew for 25 years. The main complaint I have is with taking your things between sessions, Having my stuff scooped up and tossed by a dumpster really pissed me off! And the yellow shirt fat guy that seamed to enjoy doing it really fired me up!! Treating fans like that is not a good thing in my book. |
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