04:53:18am, Thursday, April 16, 2026
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Whitworths
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Registered: 08/21/2023 Posts: 30 |
i have noticed how well Whitworths tractors are doing the last couple years in both LSS and SSO. Just wondering if they are Deere powered or something else |
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Re: Whitworths
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Registered: 12/30/2008 Posts: 303 |
Deere powered, yes [www.ulmerracing.com] |
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Re: Whitworths
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Pllnfn
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Is their new light super the former Deere Factor out of Nebraska? |
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Re: Whitworths
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Registered: 12/30/2008 Posts: 303 |
Yes [www.ulmerracing.com] |
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Re: Whitworths
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Plowboy
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Who builds there engines for them or do they build there owen |
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Re: Whitworths
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Registered: 12/30/2008 Posts: 303 |
Bamber heads, Blackbourn fuel system, Lance Blackaby does alot of the work I believe. [www.ulmerracing.com] |
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Re: Whitworths
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Registered: 04/06/2008 Posts: 989 |
They run very HARD! |
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Re: Whitworths
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Teddy
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Are u saying they could have 4 tractors at Bowling Green ( 3 lights and a heavy)? |
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They could have 4 lss and a heavy for sure probably have another one or two sitting around |
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Re: Whitworths
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Registered: 11/24/2019 Posts: 326 |
They are here with 2 lights and a heavy. Both lights in the pulloff, Bin Buster scratched.
Pulloff after they run 2 wheel drives. Never seen them not run the pulloff immediately after the end of the class. |
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Re: Whitworths
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Moderator Registered: 07/06/2008 Posts: 1,806 |
It is unusual, but if it gives pullers a chance to go through the tractor in more detail and cool off, it would be a good compromise to have pulloffs in a way to lessen breakage. Also, it makes for a mini-Finale to the session.Maybe this could work for pulloffs going forward. |
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Re: Whitworths
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I guess they didn’t figure the heavy’s needed the cool down time, or maybe a conspiracy against the diesel |
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Great Showing!
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Registered: 07/06/2017 Posts: 434 |
It was a dang good class! It’s always nice to see friends do good!! |
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Re: Great Showing!
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FansOnly
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The idea of running a pulloff directly after the class is beyond stupid in 2025. This isn't 1985 or 1995 anymore.
If you wanna see more breakage, run them hot. If you wanna see them be able to put on a show the next day, let them cool off.. |
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Re: Great Showing!
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I Agree
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I Agree 1000%..I think some people actually enjoy seeing tractors melt down..If I was one of 3 tractors in a pulloff I would just tell them to give me 3rd place because I'm not coming back.. |
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Re: Great Showing!
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Under_Pressure
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Pulloff are great and part of the sport and need to come back (along with 300' full pulls). However there needs to be a rule that they either run another class before the pulloff or there is some minimum time (which should vary based on class) for cool down, adjustments, etc. As I recall they used to do that if possible (run another class) when pulloffs were more common too. There also needs to be a penalty if you don't come back for the pulloff, like X number of places if you don't come back, and maybe a lesser penalty if you don't go 100 ft (i.e. just bump the sled). Guys being able to say "nah, I'm not going to try, just give me 2nd/3rd/whatever place" is what allowed them to circumvent the rules and traditions of the sport in the first place and ended up getting us where we are today. |
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Re: Great Showing!
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Moderator Registered: 03/19/2018 Posts: 805 |
I never remember pulloffs being later. It was always immediate. The reason is simple. You cannot write a rule for "later" pulloffs because the last class of the scheduled session doesn't have a "later." It isn't something that can be codified. It has to be a "now" thing if you're going to do it.
CP |
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Re: Great Showing!
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Moderator Registered: 07/06/2008 Posts: 1,806 |
CPR, it has always been immediate as you said. The logical? is, why did they run Thursday's LSS pulloff later? I'm glad the tractors got to cool off, but why weren't other classes given the same option? What was Marvin thinking with LSS that he wasn't thinking with other classes? |
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Re: Great Showing!
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Moderator Registered: 03/19/2018 Posts: 805 |
I don't speak for him and do not know the true story. The rule is to come right back. Perhaps the LSS guys got together and simply asked?
CP |
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Re: Great Showing!
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Registered: 08/22/2019 Posts: 145 |
Charles, I completely understand what you are saying. My question is, back in the 80's and 90's, did we have classes that were 50 deep? I honestly do not know. Say there are 40 in a class and vehicle #3 and vehicle #38 make it into the finals, is it fare to have them both come back right away since one has had soo much more time to cool down? I can understand it form both sides. Personally, I like the idea of them coming back later in the show. However, not every class should or deserves to have a pull off at every event. And the sleds can get most of these classes stop in the distance we need them to. If a show says there is a pull off and wants to bring them back right after the class, I am good with it. But I also understand if someone decides to not put a 2nd pass on their vehicle and takes whatever place in a Pull Off. And the end of the day, I feel it should come down to what puts on the best show. If the pullers say they are good with coming back right away, go for it. If they are saying they need to look them over first, back it off some. But regardless of what is decided, it MUST be decided before anyone hooks to the sled. |
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Re: Great Showing!
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Moderator Registered: 03/19/2018 Posts: 805 |
They did, yes. Hook order is a total random draw and always has been. Every competitor knows it going in. There is no one to blame for that and no work-around.
That said I do understand where pullers come from on wanting the float. However at BG, it is laid out in the meeting that 350 is the limit and there will be a pulloff beyond. And at that venue it is expected. The call of a full pull is what that place is known for. Gosh I miss Keith Bradley. I digress. CP |
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Re: Great Showing!
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Registered: 08/22/2019 Posts: 145 |
Charles, that's crazy that they had those numbers back then. And I am definitely not against Pull Offs. Frankly, I miss the 320 full pull days. I do love watching someone make that huge run, but I think some events get carried away. I also think it should never be intentional to try to have a pull off. They should plan on a sled setting to try to get them stopped well before 350', not close to. |
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Re: Great Showing!
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I Agree
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Pulloffs may be great for some of you but not for lots of us that paid the bills to own a pulling tractor..I actually pulled for 5 years with several groups that had no pulloffs...Most of them did away with pulloffs 20-30 years ago or more...You know why they did away with them..Because the pullers got tired of breaking parts for no extra money..Quite often if 2-3 were out the gate they would just split the money...If you want pulling to die just try and force pullers to come back for a pulloff by penalizing them.You arent going to tell me to come back..If so I'll just say that it's sure been nice pulling with you. If I were to pull nationally today it would be a 5.0 Pro Stock with the Outlaws..They just had a another new 5.0 Pro debut at Wisner...They were one of the pioneers of the floating finish and it sure has worked great for them..I havent talked to a single fan or puller at their pulls that wants to go back to pulloffs...They are a waste of time and money...If big pulls like BG want them,give them some cool down time and extra money. With todays horsepower I'd sure hate to try and set a sled for a 300 ft track to only let 2-3 out the end for a pulloff..I can remember years ago being at a big pull where the 9SS winner had to make 4-5 hooks to finally win..He was not happy..That was back when lots were still running water in the heads and blocks. |
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Re: Great Showing!
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Registered: 06/16/2017 Posts: 28 |
Seems to work indoors, unless the lighting and air affects that. |
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Re: Great Showing!
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SMFH
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Well, you apparently haven't talked to me. I quit because i liked pulling, not wasting my time driving hundreds of miles for 1 hook. Build them to last and pull, not show off. Its tractor pulling, not tractor showing. Pulloffs have been the best part of the show for me for 40 years, both as a spectator and a competitor. |
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Re: Great Showing!
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Dave Ramsey
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Of course, people like seeing tractors melt down. Post a video of a meltdown or wild ride on YouTube, and it will get far more views than just a pull. If racecars never wreaked, no one would watch them either. If you can't afford to fix them when they break you shouldn't be doing this in the first place. |
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Re: Great Showing!
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Richard Warren
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I don't say much on here but I like to read the comments. Thank you to the Morgans for allowing us to post our views on their website. That being said, it's fairly easy to tell who has a pulling truck/tractor simply by reading their comments. |
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Re: Great Showing!
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Dave Ramsey
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Based on your comment, it's obviously not as easy as you think. |
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