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WPI and Full Pull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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Puller
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A e-mail was sent out today that NTPA and Outlaws have joined forces as one
NOTE: Merged both topics into one. TOM Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/10/2026 11:56PM by The Original Michael. |
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Enderle
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Moderator Registered: 07/06/2008 Posts: 1,806 |
For 2027 and beyond, it would be nice to rotate the Enderle between Urbana and somewhere in the Outlaws area, maybe even a 3 year rotation with an eastern site if R1 gets going. Imo, in 2027 and beyond the Outlaws pullers should be fully included in the Enderle. |
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Re: NTPA
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plb
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Heard the Enderle might be toast soon. Just saying. |
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WPI and FullPull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,936 |
The WPI and FPE have just announced that they have purchased the Outlaws. Interesting times for sure. Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/10/2026 10:55AM by Dick Morgan. |
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Re: WPI and FullPull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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Good or bad
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Is this good or bad? Go from 3 big organizations, down to 2? Does this mean NTPA comes in and changes all the rules? Do 4.1s get rid of the box turbo? Does NTPA do away with the box turbo in the 5.0? |
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Re: WPI and FullPull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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David Faber
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They merged or WPI bought them? If a purchase, what did they pay and where did they source the funds? Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/10/2026 02:53PM by Dick Morgan. |
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Re: WPI and FullPull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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Registered: 02/25/2014 Posts: 134 |
That’s a really good question. The word ownership was used at least 5 times in the official announcement. A merger and an acquisition are two very different things. Who bought it and how much did it cost? |
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Re: WPI and FullPull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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Good or bad
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WPI and FPE are the new owners per Outlaws facebook page. I'd guess the lawsuits from the Outlaw accident at Iowa State Fair a couple years back would be part of the reason it sold. |
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Re: WPI and FullPull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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Registered: 06/19/2017 Posts: 67 |
The lawsuit had zero affect on the Outlaws on this decision. Taylor Van Beek Extreme Performance & Tire Cutting 712-470-1900 extremeperformancepulling@gmail.com |
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Re: WPI and Full Pull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,664 |
This is a great move by Fullpull Entertainment and interesting that they partnered with WPI. This cooperation is what pulling needs moving forward.
It will be interesting seen how their classes (and hopefully some events) are streamline and unified in the next couple of years. Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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Re: WPI and Full Pull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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Andrew R Sorkin.
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So Fullpull is the source of the funding? What is the WPI/NTPA role if they didn't provide the capital? In order to know if it were a great move or not, wouldn't you need to know what they paid for it? |
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Re: WPI and Full Pull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,664 |
It's no different than any partnership. I think Fullpull might be majority owner (not 100% sure though). I believe WPI also provided funds. I'm not sure if there were other investors or if VanBeek kept a portion of ownership, All I know is that it's a partnership.
As for whether it's a good move for Fullpull, no I don't need to know what they paid (if I did I would have said good investment) I think it's actually a great move for them to diversify. They have gone from a simple betting app to a media company to promotors to co-owning an organization. That's very impressive. It will give them more control of the product and a much more prominent seat at the table. Great move for them. A more important question might be; what's next for them? Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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Re: WPI and Full Pull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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Moderator Registered: 03/19/2018 Posts: 805 |
FPE and WPI are 50:50 with an option for WPI to buy out FPE.
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Re: WPI and Full Pull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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DF
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What did they pay? Did WPI borrow their portion? |
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Re: WPI and Full Pull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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Moderator Registered: 07/06/2008 Posts: 1,806 |
Just throwing this out there for discussion. Outlaws mods run at 7400 lbs. NTPA light mods run at 6000 or 6200 (can't remember which). With PPLcalling the 7400 class "light" at their upcoming truck show pull, and given many light mod tractors have ran either 74 or 7500 with the same engine setup, what are the chances NTPA will mostly adopt Outlaws rules and keep their GN light mod class a 2 engine class but up the weight to 7400 lbs from the current lighter weight? Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/11/2026 01:35AM by The Original Michael. |
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Re: WPI and Full Pull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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Registered: 07/18/2016 Posts: 95 |
That's going to be interesting. Outlaws Allow 3 Chevys while NTPA restricts you to 2 engines. I like the 6200 lb class the best and talking to other pullers that seems to be the general consensus. We're built so light to run 6,200 lbs that it is difficult to find places to add that extra #1200 especially with the reverse stair step setup we run. If anything Consolidate and go 6500 or 6600 since some Outlaw guys might not be able to get to that 6200 threshold. It would still kick out the 3 engine guys though. |
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Re: WPI and Full Pull Entertainment buy Outlaws
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,664 |
Maybe meet in the middle... 6700-7000 lb class would a great shorter term solution and then see what direction makes the most sense for the class longterm. Personally I prefer lighter in most cases for classes but that's just a preference. Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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