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Democrats ruin everything
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Stuart Maize
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Democrats ruin everything,...………….. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2020 12:06AM by Jake Morgan. |
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Re: Democrats ruin everything
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,445 |
And this has what to do with the topic? Let's try and get back to the original intent of the thread. Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2020 12:09AM by Jake Morgan. |
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Stuart Maize
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Even Pulling related message boards,...…... Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2020 12:09AM by Jake Morgan. |
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,445 |
What? I have no desire to get into a back and forth with you or anyone else about this. The topic was about the NTPA. Let's try and get back on topic. Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2020 12:09AM by Jake Morgan. |
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Re: Democrats ruin everything
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Stuart Maize
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Oh I think you do,....or why else would you interject into it. The point Mr Warren made and I quoted was that a certain faction in this country wants it too fail. By allowing frivolous lawsuits that claim Pulloff.com gave somebody the Chinese Virus. Just man up Dick and say that you belong to that party. Transparency is hard for democrats to show,...why is that? Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2020 12:10AM by Jake Morgan. |
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Registered: 02/21/2012 Posts: 797 |
Oh, I don't know. Maybe because it is Dick and his son's message board and he's trying to keep the thread from going down a rabbit hole? I have absolutely no idea how you think that Dick is secretly a Democrat... But thanks for the laugh for the day--I really needed it on this rainy day. John Murray Two-time Pedal Pull World Champion Let's Go Pulling, covering the sport of pulling in Kentucky, Tennessee, and Alabama. Watch LGP on YouTube Like LGP on Facebook 
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2020 12:08AM by Jake Morgan. |
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Re: Democrats ruin everything
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Stuart Maize
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I fully understand who owns this message board John,.....It's a great asset to the sport. However moderation can be a slippery slope. I will voice my opinion when I see it getting a little slick,...….so glad I could cheer you up. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2020 12:08AM by Jake Morgan. |
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Re: Democrats ruin everything and pulling
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plb
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Dems/libs would just flat ban motorsports if they could, Truth. Look at whats going on in Europe, Pro stocks are banned in most countries over there now thanks to tree hugging libs. same crap is coming if don`t start pushing back on these clowns soon!!! |
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I love it. Straight truth on the Democrats. |
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Get 'em
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You tell the truth my BASH Brother.... why farm some when you can FARMITALL..... lol
retired 1066 puller |
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Re: Democrats ruin everything
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LEWIS
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Everything on this posts is on Topic because the Topic is Democrats ruin everything.Now Dick dont KNOW if you are a Dem Vote for the hero Biden with ALZHEIMERS mAY as well since all the party has had in the past is Oboma and Hiillary and the topic is in those dark letters above |
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Re: Democrats ruin everything
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Leon
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And the scary thing is they are like a virus. They leave a area they ruined, and vote the same things they fled into power. It's sad to say but let some good ol EPA tree hugger show up and see a 8345 Deere or 340 case that had all the emissions stuff on it blowing smoke, you all know where that's going, right where all the diesel pickup tuners are. |
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Re: Democrats ruin everything
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,526 |
Are we talking Democratic Leadership, or the average Democrat voter that makes up roughly 47% of America? Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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Re: Democrats ruin everything
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Good question
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That’s a great question Jake! I’d like to know how that 47% could in good conscience vote for any of the “democratic leadership” that is currently in office? How could one remain a “democrat” with the “leadership” the clearly tainted dnc puts forth to its voters? |
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Registered: 02/02/2010 Posts: 43 |
Amen, Brotha! It's hard to understand how one can be above the fray, but support the crooked leadership. |
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Yea rite
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The only thing that was said that was even remotely connected to the Dumbocrats was the Obama-- thats it !!! |
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Re: Hey Kettle, this is Pot...
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,526 |
Let me preface this so you know my beliefs/bias and before people throw out the “you’re just a liberal” insult. I’m not a Republican, and I’m not a Democrat. I didn’t vote for Trump (much to oliberal for me) and I didn’t vote for Clinton (over the top liberal, and just downright unlikable). I’m an independent and I lean libertarian and conservative. I probably lean much more conservative than 99.9% of American’s and much more libertarian than most as well.
I believe that we need the smallest government possible and that Government is rarely the right answer to any problem. I believe that we should have personal accountability and we have the liberty and freedom to do whatever we want as long as our actions don’t negatively impact those around us. So that’s what I believe... Now, Democrats vs Republican’s in an epic cage match! The Republicans (leadership and voters) have moved so far to the left in the past two decades that I’m not sure how they differ much from the Democrats. Honestly I don’t think they do. They both just want bigger government, crazy spending, and more power. Neither party cares about what’s good for America, they’ve put party above all else for their own personal gain. Some in republican leadership are calling for Mincome (minimum income where everybody gets a check for simply breathing, and some will still get a check after that). Many Republicans are clamoring for a replacement to Obama care… what happened to a repeal? They spend like crazy and they are just as quick to suspend the Constitution and take away our rights and Freedoms during a crisis. I just don't see where they are any different. Maybe I'm missing it. Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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Re: Hey Kettle, this is Pot...
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Registered: 02/23/2012 Posts: 542 |
Amen Jake!
I’m glad I’m not alone Thanks for standing up for what’s right and I will say a lot of us here in Ohio wrote in John Kaisich our governor at the time he never caved in to Trump and still doesn’t |
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Small government fan
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I agree with Jake about government being for a smaller government. I also agree that the majority of the establishment is all about tyranny and big government, Rs and Ds alike. However, Donald Trump is the first president in my time that is all about these very things we have agreed we stand for. Why do you think the Kasichs and others of the establishment have hated Trump from the word go. Its because he isn't one of the "Good Ol Boys" They all feel threatened by him , why? Because he stands for what is right and is exposing the corruption and truly cares about this country. He doesn't even take tax payers dollars for a pay check. How many other "Politicians " give away their salaries to a good cause? These career politicians need to go! They are all corrupt and go into office with very little and come out FILTHY RICH!!! Bbailey, Kasich is a snake in the grass! Beware of him and others who turned their backs on Trump, when they all agreed to support the nominated candidate. Now they all wanna jump on his shirt tail and try to capture votes, after seeing the people make a statement! They all just thought Trump would never pull off the impossible. The people of America spoke! They are tired of the "Establishment " Republican and democrat alike. Trump maybe ran on the Republican ticket, but he is far from a Republican, he is what Jake has described, conservative/libertarian. By the way I am registered Republican, however vote for who I believe has the best interest of the American people at heart. Donald Trump definitely fits the bill! Our Ohio Governor is another train wreck! Just remember one thing. The Establishment only cares about the people at election time. They are all about tyranny and BIG GOVERNMENT!
Please prayerfully consider the options before you cast your vote in November. This election I believe is even more important than the 16 election. Just a side note, in the 16 primary I did not vote Trump. However after hearing from Older More Wise, very respectful people in my life. I soon realized that I should have voted Trump. And did just that in November and I am proud to say I voted my conscience and against the corrupt establishment! I dont agree with everything Trump says or does, however for the most part I am on board with his plan. May God Bless our country and I pray our President and other leaders seek God for guidance. Be safe all! |
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Yea rite
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Funny ( not funny ) how you didn't mention Democrats in your last paragraph analysis !!! But its your talk show Jerry !! |
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,526 |
It didn't mention the sky is blue either because I thought it was clear to everyone, my fault on that one. The last paragraph is clearly all Democrat ideas/proposals that are quickly being adopted by Republicans... hence the NO difference part of my post. The Obama care part clearly gives it away that it was a Democrat idea. Republican's once hated socialized health care, now they don't, they just want their own plan.
Most of my posts are way too long already, but apparently when I don't state the obvious some people still miss the point. The Democrats and Republicans lobby for the same things, they just want their name on it and then bash the other teams plan. Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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Re: Hey Kettle, this is Pot...
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Stuart Maize
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I must of missed the announcement that the Republicans were now supporting the 1.3 million deaths per year! 
If a voter says they are "more conservative than most conservatives" in this country,.. and declares to be an Independent voter,.. but chooses to not to vote for a Presidential candidate whose 5 main promises are: 1. Lower taxes 2. Cut business killing regulations 3. Secure the southern border 4. Rebuild the Military 5. Reduce our independence on China They aren't conservative,..... |
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,526 |
Stuart,
Thanks for your comment. Let me correct some inaccurate assumptions you’ve made about me. First I didn’t I say that I don’t support any of those things. I support all of them… well the lower taxes thing… that’s tricky… I don’t support that until we FIRST cut spending (my conservative fiscal opinion). Then we can lower taxes and shrink government. You can’t cut income without cutting spending unless your goal is to go bankrupt. I know there are economic theories stating otherwise but I don't think they offer a long-term solution. I also think EVERYONE should pay taxes… not just 49% of Americans while the other 51% gets other people's money redistributed to them… that's not a good idea and we need to change that (Maybe that’s just the old school conservative in me) There are some people who are one or two (or five position voters). For some it’s the 2nd amendment, for others it’s abortion, etc… for you it was the five things he promised (and probably some other things as well). I think that’s great. That’s what make America great, we can have differing opinion and we all get to make our own choices on what matter most to us. For me, I’m not huge on campaign promises. Did you really believe Mexico was going to pay for the wall like he promised? I didn’t. Those promises are just pie in the sky platitudes so I take them with a grain of salt. Lots of other people probably support those same things and you could vote for them too. Do we need to secure our border? Absolutely, in fact I’ve complained about our immigration problem on this page repeatedly. A well regulated border is paramount to our sovereignty as a nation. I’ve also be very vocal against our reliance on China and I’ve consistently written about my dislike of big government and my dislike for their overly aggressive regulations. I've got plenty of post on this page showing my vies on that. Voting is not a binary choice. I can vote for all sorts of different candidates, I just didn’t want to vote for either of the two candidate from the two major parties. They are/were BOTH too liberal for me. Let me clarify, I’m more conservative than our President (yes, that is possible, he's not an ideologue of conservativism and he doesn't have amonopoly on conservative beliefs). Yes, I’m further to the right than he is on the political spectrum. If you like President Trump, you should by all means vote for him. I’d encourage everyone to vote their conscience. I think he’s miles and miles better than Joe Biden. I’m glad Trump won and I hope he wins in the next election. I’m a person of principle and I can’t in good faith vote for someone as far to the left as he is (again, I’m further to the right so most candidates look like they are to the left of my position). Yours must be further left than mine, and that's OK, it's spectrum. President Donald J. Trump… um… he’s definitely not conservative, and he’s definitely not libertarian. He’s a centrist, probably a little left of center really. The media has painted him as Mr. Super Conservative with a cape and a giant “C” on his chest, but he’s any thing but that. His history and his record show that. I’m less interested in what he says and more interested in what he does. He was a Democrat until about 20 minutes before he decided to run. Currently his two biggest advisers (Jared and Ivana) couldn’t even vote for him in the Republican Primary last election cycle because they were still registered Democrats. They gave us hit’s like The Paid Family leave act and The Affordable Child Care act. Both acts rank high on the Socialist Top 40 Hits List. More big government. Not long ago he’d be labeled a RINO, but the party has moved left so he’s not. Let’s look at President Trumps record: Government size – he’s trimmed some things like the EPA and the Department of Education, both of which I applaud. However, he’s continued to grow the size of the Federal Government. Small Government under his watch isn’t a thing… like all people in power he wants to grow his kingdom. (It’s probably a hard temptation to resist) Healthcare – he said he’d dump Obamacare but he wants to replace it. That’s not conservative in any way shape or form. Conservatism is getting the government out of health care. He’s praised the nationalized health care system of Canada and Great Britain and Scotland on numerous occasions. Again he’s further to the left than I am. Trade. Trump is for international tariffs… also known as taxes on American for buying things. Yes, a tariff is just another tax on Americans. It’s also something that has traditionally (always) been supported by the Democrats. Again, I lean further to the right than he does. Socially – he was actually the first President that when he was elected that was pro gay marriage (Obama changed his stance during his time and was anti-gay marriage when initially elected). He’s flip flopped back and forth whenever it would get him more votes. He was also one of the first noteworthy people to say that any gender could use any bathroom at any of the properties he owns. He’s very LGBT friendly even though the media wants to paint him otherwise. Again, I’m not in favor of those things, I’m more conservative. Family values - He’s claimed to be a Christian, but he’s never asked for forgiveness… there’s a disconnect there. As a Christian I can’t help but be reminded daily about what a sinner I am and that I’m saved by Grace and faith in Christ, without forgiveness there’s no point. He’s a known philanderer and doesn’t demonstrate any of the traditional conservative family values. I guess I’m old fashioned but I’m a little more conservative than that. Fiscally – I don’t even know where to start. He’s giving away “free money” right now like he’s Alexandria Ocasio Cortes's twin brother. He’s spent more money and racked up more debt than any other President. He’s made Barack Obama look like a fiscal conservative. Our spending my indeed be the death of this nation, so I’m pretty sure a Republican might just ruin everything too. He is by no measure a fiscal conservative. Our debt and or deficit will crush us. In case you’re wondering, I’m more conservative than that. Government control – he’s a huge proponent of eminent domain. He believe the government has the right to illegally confiscate private property for the good of the nation. That’s a very socialist and authoritarian stance. I’m not in favor of that at all. For those who truly believe President Trump is a die-hard conservative then you’ve been lead astray by the Main Stream Media. They paint him as a conservative but his track record is anything but conservative. Don’t believe the media lies, they act like the middle IS the left so they can keep moving this country further and further to the left. A lot of people want to paint him as the second coming of Ronald Reagan but he’s much closer to the second coming of Barack Obama Lite (except for spending). If you want the truth on the Democrats you better be willing to accept the truth about the current state of the Republican party as well, and it’s a real mixed bag of good and bad. Don’t get me wrong I prefer him of Hillary Clinton, and he’s 1000 times better than whatever is left rattling around the vacuum of Joe Biden skull but I’m not going to pretend he’s conservative and I’’m not going to pretend the Republicans are much better than the Democrats. They are simply two sides of the same coin these days and they are both too liberal for my liking. As for him being libertarian… he’s much closer to authoritarian his beliefs. He’s for a strong Federal Government and he’s not great on State’s rights. He’s constantly talking about how HE is going to reopen things… but it’s not his job, he's not our king. It’s the job of our (terrible) Governors to open their individual states. I guess the conservative libertarian in me believe in less government and keeping more decision making local. His stance on eminent domain is the clear sign of his authoritarian stance. It doesn't take long in a press conference to see it's always about him and what he can do for us. That's not the job of the government from a libertarian standpoint. Let me also be clear, I think he’s done some truly great thing for this country.
Overall the good vastly outweighs the bad, but there’s still plenty of bad things that I just can’t turn a blind eye towards. So I won’t blindly support him. I won’t offer blind support to ANY person (well, except Jesus, the Messiah). I’ll give him praise and support when I like the policy or action and I’ll speak out when I don’t. It’s part of that awesome Freedom we have. Again, he’s miles better than anything the democrats have run, but I have the Freedom to vote for something even better, even if they don’t win. I can live with myself knowing that I voted for who I thought was best, even if that person is third party or a write-in. If it was binary I choose Trump, but it's not, so I won't. I’m also not a fan of the hyper-partisan BS with no context I can turn on CNN if I want to watch that (actually I can't because we don't have cable...). Both the Democrats and Republican has some serious flaws and simply playing the blame game towards one side or the other doesn’t solve anything. In fact, the blame game is just letting yourself be a puppet of our corrupt government and our corrupt media. They’ve got people so distracted with Republican vs Democrat that people blindly support a party, yet all the while they both take away our liberties and freedoms by growing government. The real fight is Totalitarianism/Authoritarianism/Communism (all just different names for essentially big Government) vs. Libertarianism/Freedom/Liberty. That’s what the left hand is doing when we're to busy watching the right hand. We’re being duped. Democrat and Republican leadership are just two sides of the same coin for big government control of all our lives. An elite ruling class, and us peasants. Also, I don't hold it against anyone for supporting Trump, we all have different values. I know there are some great democrats out there too that want the best for this country too, we just have different values and ideas of where we want to go. Stuart, Again, thanks for your comments, I hope this clarifies my conservative/libertarian position on many of the common political topics. I think I’ve clearly stated that I’m just slightly to the right of President Trump (sarcasm, I'm pretty far right of him... especially since I consider him left of center based on his actual record). If you’d like to discuss any of these I’d be happy to continue the dialog. Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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Re: Hey Jake
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Vinny
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It’s “Stuart” not “Stewart”. Sorry pet peeve of mine especially with that many examples.
On a side note you mentioned Trump’s spending. Is this due to the stimulus bill? |
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Re: Hey Jake
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,526 |
Thanks for the correction, I edited my post. Sorry Stuart, no disrespect meant, I just can't spell.
No, President Trump has spent like a Democrat well before this virus hit. I just looked up some numbers... Obama had a deficit of $1.4 trillion during the worst part of his stimulus years in 2016 when were were in a recession ($600 billion was stimulus debt). If you take out the stimulus that means our budget otherwise was $800 billion in deficit... Awful. Dreadful. Right? A few years later the deficit in 2017 under Obama shrank to $671 billion while the economy was still really struggling. Still debt, but less of it. Since Donald Trump took over the economy has gotten better and better. He promised to pay down the debt... another campaign promise like so many other candidates before him. Our deficit should be lower right? Booming economic times are good, lets pay some of that debt down. Well, the 2018 deficit was $1.271 trillion, 2019 was $1.203 trillion, and 2020 budget was signed for $966 billion deficit but the deficit was projected to be another $1.2 trillion. That's crazy debt, especially when times are good. That's not even counting any other stimulus packages that we're currently passing because of the wonderful virus gift from Wuhan, China. We've got a spending problem and a big-government Republican like Trump is actually the worst spender in our countries history (especially factoring in the economic growth and prosperity during that spending spree). Again, wait until the dust settles from these "stimulus" deals with Nancy Pelosi... it's only another $6-10 trillion on top of the $1.2 trillion this year? Not good. Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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Re: Hey Kettle, this is Pot...
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Registered: 03/27/2008 Posts: 1,141 |
It is kinda funny to read this and "thank god" this sets a lot of things straight in the political compass of the USA to me. Just as you've mentioned I didn't get were Trump's actions against free trade and government support for certain businesses fell into being "conservative".
I was in an argument on another page a while back, where Angela Merkel was called a "left winger". While I am not the biggest fan of her because of her decision on nuclear and her being super slow on internet infrastructure and reacting on things in general, she passes Trump "on the right" on many of those points you've mentioned there. She's just in a position where her party can't form a government on her own and needed the social democrats to form a coalition against the Greens, the far right (and pro Russian) AFD and the liberterianish FDP (that I am with). And the Social Democrats are worse than your Democrats and always have a say in things.(and oppose military spending - they are just raising trouble again because our military wants to order a fleet of F18 fighters in the US). Her party is: Fiscally super conservative and was actually repaying dept until this Corona thing. Fought against gay marriage as long as they could (left, green and libertarian pushed that through) Kept speed limits away (that's to us what guns are to you) Went against an immigration law Went against minimum wage Legalization of marijuana no where in sight blocked "tax for the wealthy" blocked the raise of social security costs for companies blocked dual citizenship stopped the "endless and unconditional" support of solar and wind energy (to the point where solar almost makes no sense anymore and wind power is now almost impossible to build inland). Gave even more tax breaks to traditional families and married people (married couples with kids get so many tax breaks here, it almost makes no sense to start a low paying, full time job here, so children are not necessarily under the supervision of the state all day, but one parent can afford to stay at home). Floating Finish - the German Tractor Pulling Web Show and EU Live Streams: [www.youtube.com] Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/07/2020 06:28PM by Sascha. |
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I love it. We all know what happens to things that stand in the middle of the road ..... On Trump, you have to look at what he does versus what he says. He sounds centrist but in really puts forth very conservative policies. At least until this virus where I think he has lost his way just to try to make sure he gets re-elected. That aside, ALL of the republicans say what we want to hear & do the opposite. Proof is this Russia think with Trump. We now know for sure that everyone in Congress knew for sure it was all fake from the beginning. Certainly leadership did. And that was when Republicans had control of the House also. Mitch McConnell, Lindsay Graham, all of them could have stopped 3 years of wasted time from the start but they didn’t. Why? My guess, they had an opportunity to enact policies that backed up what they said but didn’t want to because they are actually just as liberal as the democrats. Trump though is different. They all hate him because they knew he would expose them for the fakes they all are. It’s time to support him & any new blood out there. They ALL need to go!! |
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Re: Hey Kettle, this is Pot...
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,526 |
Marty,
Thanks for the great comments. I don't think the middle of the road is a bad on every topic, but our middle of the road keeps drifting further and further left and the republicans are great a ceding ground, but they never manage to gain any back. I agree that they all need to go. We need term limits and we need government to follow the same rules as the rest of the country. Why do they have different health care in the House and Senate? Why can they do insider trading? Why do they get such a platinum retirement plan? They are supposed to be serving this country, but instead they just serve themselves. As for Trump, I think you have it backwards, he sounds conservative (at times), but he acts/votes/signs/spends like a centrist/populist and often times a liberal (or worse). From TheBalance "On September 8, 2017, Trump signed a bill increasing the debt ceiling.19 Later that day, the debt exceeded $20 trillion for the first time in U.S. history. On February 9, 2018, Trump signed a bill suspending the debt ceiling until March 1, 2019.20 It leapt to $22 trillion. In July 2019, Trump suspended the debt ceiling until after the 2020 presidential election. The debt soon rose to $23 trillion. Trump has overseen the fastest increase in the debt of any president." No veto, no conservative stance, just the most extreme liberal spending in the history of our nation. He could have stood up to it, heck he could have spoken out against it in protest but still signed it, but he went along with the most liberal spending WILLINGLY! I spelled out some other parts of of his record above and he's definitely not conservative. Not by a longshot. If his record is conservative, then I stand by my prior comments that there's no difference between the Republicans and Democrats anymore. People really want him to fit into their mold of him instead just looking at his actions. His actions are that he signs every single piece of liberal legislation that slides across his desk. His other actions aren't generally conservative either. I think it's great that you support him as the better choice between the two major parties but I'm not convinced by many of his actions that he's conservative. I'd love to have someone change my mind with actual facts and figures ( other than his comments or actions I listed in my other post ) but I'm not convinced he has many conservative ideologies that he really cares about or exudes. I'm just calling balls and strikes as I see them. As for term limits, it's why I support https://conventionofstates.com/. Since Congress won't pass term limits it's up to us to use Article 5 of the Constitution and force a Constitutional Amendment on them. The Democrats AND Republicans will continue to take power unless we do something about it. Thanks for your comments, we can respectfully disagree and still have some great dialog. Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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Moderator Registered: 02/21/2012 Posts: 797 |
The reason he didn't mention them in the last paragraph is because it was unnecessary. He mentioned them in the previous paragraph, which I'll quote here:
The last paragraph was Jake providing supporting arguments for his case. He mentioned the Democrats--you just chose to overlook it. John Murray Two-time Pedal Pull World Champion Let's Go Pulling, covering the sport of pulling in Kentucky, Tennessee, and Alabama. Watch LGP on YouTube Like LGP on Facebook
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