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That is not true. We run a factory replacement two pinion needle bearing pinion differential in a 4010 housing with large needled cross shaft. All factory replacement differential cases/carriers on 40 and 42 tractors from 10 to 30 series will be the two pinion needled differential case. Larger and later tractor went to three pinion needle bearing. which may also fit 4020 case. Only disadvantage
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Not sure what you mean? Please explain. Thanks in advance.
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Hard to police?? I didn't know a tape measure was that high tech or difficult to use. Simple measurement from the center of the rear axle to the back or front of the block.
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Jake, I couldn't agree more. Who's rule book does this apply to? I wonder what associations would not allow this rule? I never understood why most associations let the level of modifications/butchering to old series tractors/transmissions to the point that there is no integrity left but, then not allow current available/safe parts to be used like the late 00,10,15, 20, or 30 series full
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Couldn't allow that then the John Deere guys could run a Cummins engine like the rest!
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Perma clutches are old school. We were welding hubs 30 years ago and doing the same as you described. No big secret how to do them that way, Found the other worked much better for us but, both will have their limits. . If it works for you keep up the good work! We run a Crower now as there in no Perma clutch that will take 5000 rpm out of the hole with a 18 to 1 gear ratio. I know Darin and his
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Yes it could be done. You would want flywheel from a 4640/8440 ?? Think they are the same??, This will give you the 6 bolt hole pattern to match 4455 crank flange bolt pattern. The 46/84 flywheel is taller than the 4455 and will compensate for the PTO spacer plate and original six finger cover you will discard from original Perma Clutch. This will also give you more room for extra traction clut
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Just asking, Can a later John Deere rear axle/transmission assembly from 6000 series JD tractor be used? These tractor did not have a clutch housing. A steel can would have to cover flywheel and pulling clutch. I think they could be lightened up easier than a 4010. DW
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Not the PTO as it will become live driven from clutch cover plate (No PTO clutch). You could use the traction clutch. If you go the welded hub route the PTO drive train would be connected to traction clutch.
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Not to rain on your parade but the 4 disk welded hub set up will have it limits and problems. Always loads on two disk first and will be high maintenance. The best option if you want to use stock parts is use a flywheel from a 4630 and cover plate from an 8430. This will give you one set of fingers to achieve even loading of disk and room for five disk. DW
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Coming from an antique tractor puller and tire cutter. Get rid of the curved bar. Straight 23 degree bar like a Firestone. Curved bar no good. Hard rubber compound for bar only. Keep tire flexible. Six ply max! Any of the new tires I have seen cut by different tire cutters I would not bring home over an good original aged tire. If You get the tire right there is and will be a big market for them
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Really not that hard. Your John Deere has a TDC (Top Dead Center) reference, Obtain a degree wheel and zero degree wheel in off your original TDC reference. Time pump using the degree wheel timing marks. DW
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Fact Not Fiction. The 4000 is the same transmission and clutch housing as a late model 4020. The 4000 did not have a reverse synchronizer. Remainder of internal parts is all late model 4020. Part book don't lie. 4000 had a unique set of final drives that had a smaller axle diameter. Final drive housing are different and rare! If you fail one you upgrade to 4020 axle and final drive. DW
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The roll pin just retains the bushing in A frame. Do, No need to mess with it. Pin is press fit in case only. It will drive out one direction easier than the other, Try moving it and you will figure it out, Use the heaviest hammer you can swing and a short punch that is almost the size of the pin and hit the SOB like you are serious and it will drive out. I never used a back-up hammer but not a
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My hydraulic steering system is simpler than that. No oil tank to mount as it does not need a oil tank. Still works great going on 5th year next season.
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The gas 180 or diesel 202 engine used in the 2020 used a common four cylinder Dubuque engine tin oil pan same as many four cylinder Dubuque built tractors like the 2030, 2440, 2640, ECT. You also as an option can replace the tin pan with a cast iron reinforced pan as used on the 2510/2520 and the 401 industrial tractors (hard to find). To see common model that same parts will fit just do a where
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I got a like new M&W pan ready to direct fit any 4010 or 4020. $2200.00 three one 9 3 eight nine six one 3 one. DW
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To mount the engine oil filter external: The oil pump is different along with the oil cooler and filter mounting. These parts are common on 341/362/404 combine engines. The time you find good parts that have not laid in the dirt/moisture and a larger pan, and a oil sump to accommodate what ever pan you chose to use, it might be better/easier to buy the M&W pan. Let me know if you want one. I got
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The 2510 having some common parts (gears and shafts) as a 3020 and 4030 transmissions, I can tell you from actual been there done that experience, that these transmissions in stock form, that 400 HP will pluck the teeth right out of this small gear box. When it was not eating gears it was breaking bearing quills and twisting off transmission and clutch shafts. It can be used/done but plan on a
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M&W made a factory aluminum oil pan for the stock application that the original oil filter went/stayed in pan. Pan is ribbed for cooling and highly sought after. I got one that looks like new. Bead blasted and ready to go but, not cheap. DW
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The 300 series cross flow head with the bolt on intake manifold, (That looks like an IH) that has very large individual intake ports is actually a "marine" application head. This same head was used on a 9400 combine 6.8/ liter/414 cubic inch 300 series engine for a short time. Head bolt patterns are all the same and will fit any of the six cylinder 300 series 6 cylinder engines. DW
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Any of the 300 series John Deere engines including 3. 4, and 6 cylinders can be bolted to the small block Waterloo 400 series clutch housing pattern using the 4030 or the right combine adaptor/rear main seal housing. Theses short stroke six cylinder motors 303, 329 and 359/5.9 all have the 4.3 stroke and can really go upstairs on RPM. Bore on the 303 was 3.875, 329 4.02, and 359 4.19. Used to be
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Stan, The 466 engine will bolt directly to the 3020 clutch housing but, I will tell you from experience if you build any kind of horsepower it will twist the top transmission shaft off .Been there done that with a 414 in a 4030 that has the same caliber rear end as a 3020. I built a custom top shaft then plucked D range gear teeth of like kernels off a cob. Your best bet is a 4010 rear end and fi
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G Man, Not trying to sound smart, but a 4000 is a 4020 rear end with a unique final drive that had a outer end axle diameter of a 3020. No 3020 parts in a 4000. That why the 4000 is included in the 4020 parts book that shows same internal parts as a 4020 including the transmission case.
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Requires bearing journal on the pinion end of shaft to be turned down to fit original 4010 bearing. Opposite/front end of shaft has to be machined shorter. I chose to use a shorter shaft from a 4230 (with same ratio as 4020) and only machine work was to cut down the pinion end bearing journal and use a short spacer at the opposite /retaining end of shaft to retain front bearing. Allot less machin
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Joe, Obviously clutch is dragging when you are having troubles. Drag being intermittent makes me suspect it may be lube/cooling oil drag verses actual clutch plate warpage. Knowing it seem to occur when warm, I suspect you are getting clutch cooling oil in clutch when you do want it. Clutch system/circuitry has a lube reduction valve that shuts off cooling/lube oil when clutch is released. If you
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I used a 3/4"-16 eye bolt I purched from stock car supply house that threaded into cylinder rod end. Then bolted heim joint to it. DW
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I would sell my 4020 M&W Aluminum oil pan. $1200 Cash. three 1 nine 3 eight 9 six one 3 one. Eastern Iowa.
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Complete clutch setup from a 4630 will bolt to 4430 crank but, 4630 uses taller flywheel to accomidate the three traction and two PTO disk. Problem is the 4430 clutch housing is not as deep to allow actuator room for taller stack. DW
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Here is how I would do it. Use traction clutch hub from a 4630/40 which is a three disk hub with common drive shaft spline. Add one disk and one plate to traction side of assembly. Discard one plate and one disk from PTO side of assembly leaving it a one disk/plate verses its original two. Cut down original PTO clutch hub height to accommodate new taller 4630/40 traction hub. Total height of clut
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