IH 3088 January 19, 2014 03:08AM
Got an IH3088 with d358 with a list of issues. What would be a good transpant; d360, dt360, or dt400series? The 400 series would be best but the length is gonna be an issue cause of the fan and shrouds behind side shields. If 3688 underhood parts could be found it be would easier. Just looking for some input. this would be for a farm tractor possibly pull but stock only. Thanks!
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Re: IH 3088 January 19, 2014 03:11AM
A d or dt360 would bolt right it.
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Re: IH 3088 January 19, 2014 03:29AM
Is the d358 worth fixing up? Is it worth trying to sell? I have a d360 that needs o/hed.
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Re: IH 3088 January 19, 2014 04:24AM
It's a lot cheaper overall of the 360 that it is any of them German motors. They're not worth really anything I had a neighbor take one out of an 886
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Re: IH 3088 January 19, 2014 10:46AM
I can sell you a good dt 466 or dt360 for around 1200.00 or a rebuild kit for your 358 and save you some money on that fix the 358 is my advise 270 566 2901 unless you do want to play some the 466 are 210 hp stock
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Re: IH 3088 January 20, 2014 03:46AM
400 series would make quite a tractor out of it, but like you said you will need parts from a 34 or 3688. A dt360 should give you plenty of power, be very efficient and fit right in, given the correct adapter plate and accessories. You won't miss that kraut engine!
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Re: IH 3088 January 20, 2014 07:08AM
The 358 would be a great motor to keep in it. If you spend the money for a rebuild kit and run a injection pump from a early dodge with a 5.9 there are a great and reliable engine.
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Re: IH 3088 January 20, 2014 07:33AM
we got over 12000 hours on a 358 and still going. granted there is more then enough blow by but she still rakes hay all summer. I would keep that motor but that's just my opinion.
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Re: IH 3088 January 20, 2014 11:56PM
Thanks guys for your input. I just bought this tractor super cheap, I know its history, its only got 2200 org hrs. It hasnt had an easy life. Sat outside most of its life and not alot of maintenance. Tried driving eight miles home the other day and as you started pulling hills and really bringing the engine up in temp it started knocking and pushing blowby. Shut it off and hauled it home. Once home and cooled down,purrs like a kitten. Temp gauge is working, thought maybe thermostat, nope not even one in it. Its got coolant, and water pump seems ok without removing. Any thoughts? Woudnt mind keeping the 358 in it, just not familiar with the german motor. would make a nice fixer upper to keep org. Thanks!
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Re: IH 3088 January 21, 2014 12:10AM
One of 1065 of them made.
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Re: IH 3088 January 21, 2014 02:07AM
I have a 756 that my Dad bought new in 1970. It has the little brother to the 358 in it. the tractor has 9000 hours on it and uses 1 quart of oil in 150 hours. It has been cared for over the years but I think the Kraut motors are really good.
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Re: IH 3088 January 21, 2014 02:40AM
So the 310 and 358 are the same family? Is the 407 from that family too?
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Re: IH 3088 January 21, 2014 03:04AM
360 and 407 are brothers. Then you have 414 436 466. Confusing and i'm a red guy!
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Re: IH 3088 January 21, 2014 03:16AM
I meant the temp gauge isnt working in above post.
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Re: IH 3088 January 21, 2014 03:23AM
The 361 and 407 are the same family. The 312 and 360 are from the 300 series family.

Best regards,

OPB
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Re: IH 3088 January 21, 2014 03:30AM
You are correct. Arthritic fingers on small screen, not good!
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Re: IH 3088 January 21, 2014 05:22AM
Ok, maybe I had the wrong number. I thought Sasha talked about there being a 40something in Europe. Which family does that one fit into?
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Re: IH 3088 January 21, 2014 09:18AM
Try looking at the water pump , same thing happened to my 1680 and it was a bad water pump.
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Re: IH 3088 January 21, 2014 04:44AM
my question guys is deere put that german motor in there 4030's. is that a similar motor to the 310/358 or nothing at all like it.
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Re: IH 3088 January 21, 2014 05:54AM
Not sure about a german deere but I have seen several 6059s that were made in Saran, France
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Re: IH 3088 January 21, 2014 06:23AM
DT402 is the big brother to them in Europe.
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Re: IH 3088 January 21, 2014 01:59PM
Thanks, big brother to the 310 and 358 or the 312 and 360?
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Re: IH 3088 January 21, 2014 03:01PM
310 and 358 . here is a link with all the info on the Neuss, Germany built engines

312 and 360 are just smaller versions of the 400 series or sometimes called melrose engines (414,436 and 466)



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2014 03:07PM by FordPuller9000.
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Re: IH 3088 January 22, 2014 08:26AM
So, what can someone tell me about a DT 408 and what can that bolt up to for tractors? I'm told it's in the same family as 310 and 358???
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Re: IH 3088 January 22, 2014 09:12AM
DT408 was in the same series as the DT466 and will bolt up to the same applications. I've seen several in early 90's school buses.
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