case 1170 timing? July 01, 2019 03:17AM
What is a good place to start with pump timing on a case 451, 13mm a pump 4x24 pencil injectors 3000rpm farm class. Thanks for any advice in advance.

Re: case 1170 timing? July 02, 2019 01:28PM
Start around 36-38 degrees see what happens

Re: case 1170 timing? July 03, 2019 06:27AM
Depends on how quick your pump is. At 3000 I would personally start around 32 degrees

Re: case 1170 timing? July 23, 2019 03:34AM
Would a 504 from a 2594 in a 1070 be in the same timing area, 32, for a 3000/3200 rpm class with a 5x20 dual feed injectors and 10 mm pump?

Re: case 1170 timing? July 23, 2019 10:04AM
Are you running water injection? What turbo?

Re: case 1170 timing? July 24, 2019 02:15AM
No water injection, limited to a box 3LM466 turbo.

Re: case 1170 timing? July 24, 2019 02:57AM
Likely 35 is a good place to start. Google up “case 504 timing pulloff” click the first one should take you to a thread on here about an 1175 with a 504 and a 3lm, he ended up around 35 or 36 I believe. I wouldn’t worry about the whole timing light part of it though.

Re: case 1170 timing? July 16, 2019 01:06PM
I would also start at 32

Re: case 1170 timing? July 20, 2019 01:09AM
Why not just advance the timing until it starts to fall off

Re: case 1170 timing? July 21, 2019 01:39PM
Advance to farm and you spray out of the bowl and torch down the side

Re: case 1170 timing? July 22, 2019 02:51AM
stock timing on a 451 is 31. used to run ours at 35 to 36. heads will be a problem as they were built for naturally aspirated engine . that 13 mil pump should have a quick delivery cam allowing for a little more timing.

Re: case 1170 timing? July 22, 2019 02:58AM
Not saying you’re wrong but I have a service manual for a 401 and a 504 in front of me and both are 25 degrees. Can’t see the 451 being 31.

Re: case 1170 timing? July 22, 2019 03:44AM
your are correct about timing in general. some 504 with pencil injectors are timed at 27. the rest with bosch injectors are timed at 25. the 1070 451 naturally aspirated is timed at 25. the 1170 turbocharged 451 is timed at 31. I have 2 in my shed and it is right on the valve cover tag what the timing is . every application will have that sticker depending on what the motor was put in. been working on them for 35 years.

Re: case 1170 timing? July 22, 2019 04:15AM
My mistake, learn something new everyday.

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