dt466 into a 560 October 14, 2011 06:00AM
How difficult is it to mount a dt 466 into a 560? what all do you need to change to bolt it up? adapter plate? what can the rear end hold?

thanks oly
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 14, 2011 12:56PM
get on the builders links,look for floyd isbell,sells kits and conversion stuff
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 14, 2011 04:41PM
I'm doing it now. The best way is a custom flywheel, but it's a lot of money. The cheap way is to cut the 466 flywheel to fit the 560 ring gear, and use a spacer to put the flywheel in the right place. You need to machine the 466 flywheel to the inside diameter of the 560 gear, and sink the rear face of the gear 5/8" deeper than the 466 gear was. The spacer will need to be 1 1/2" thick, and this will put the ring gear back to 560 placement so the stock starter will meet it. I used a 986 clutch disk and plate since it has heavier springs, and the 560 pilot bearing will work. This setup will work with the factory 966-1066 style rear motor plate. The bell housing bolt pattern is the same. It also allows you to retain the T/A and hydraulics if you want. I had several extra spacers made up, and will sell you one if you want to go this way.

Most people cut off the front of the fuel tank to clear the valve cover, but it's not necessary. It's tight, but it will fit. You will have to lift up the tank if you want to remove the valve cover. Mine's not turbocharged, so your results may vary. I used 856 frame rails. They are 2 9/16" longer, and thicker also. Same as '06 rails I think. This should be enough extra length for a row crop. Mine's a wheatland, so I had to slide the bolster a bit farther forward in the rails to clear the front pulley.

The tractor 466 front motor plate will work, but it has to be cut a bit. You will have to cut the bottom of the mounts up to the top of the lower mount hole, and drill one hole in the frame on each side in line with the top mount hole. This will leave only one bolt per side, but if you're carefull with the trimming, the mount will sit on the lower flange of the frame rail. You will also have to trim about 1" per side to make the width fit the narrower 560 frame width. There will also be some minor grinding to do to clear the inner edges of the frame rails where they hit the front plate. Of course custom frame rails can be made, but I'm too cheap! You will also have to make a pipe to cross over the lower radiator hose, or have your lower rad outlet moved to the other side. Of course the steering shaft and hood will have to be stretched.

I may not have explained some of this very well, so you're welcome to give me a call at 217-377-3724, and I'll try to answer any questions if I can.
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 15, 2011 06:16AM
This is a few of the parts I sell to put the 466 into 560 without moving or stretching sheet metal. You will need to put in one of our aluminum / radiators also to do this. Your starter will line up in stock location. There are several ways to do this. the previous post used a spacer and I also sell those but would rather see you use backing plate then you dont need the spacer. The imformation is correct in the previous post. these are just options. This is a turbo tractor. Floyd Isbell 570 637 1311



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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 16, 2011 03:45AM
what will a rear end hold for hp with running a 466 turbo? and also what if soemone was to use 66 series frame rails since its same bolt pattern would this allow you to not grind the front cover or is it easier just to run stock rails or say 856 rails and grind the front cover out
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 17, 2011 02:29AM
Over 400 hp. Once you get there it's time for custom shaft and gears. Then needle diff.
You are correct but the fraim rails will stick out 1 inch on each side of tractor from bell housing to the front then the sheet metal will be narrower then the rails.
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 17, 2011 06:11AM
so if i ran say 3000 rpm with head work, cam , pump, inj lines and turbo but leave rotateing assemblie alone maybe pistons i should be safe withg a 560 rear end. i wanna be able to pull motor pout done the road and put in my 966 so i dont wanna grind the front cover to much and mess with that just extra work for me later.
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 17, 2011 01:58PM
With all the mods you're talking about, you're gonna be well over 400 hp. I don't think I'd want to try that with a stock 560 rear.
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 17, 2011 03:35PM
what can i do to it and be safe basicly there is one other tractor were tryign t o start a class he is running a m with a 12 valve cummins around 250hp just fuel plate and 3000 springs. i wanna be around 300hp maybe a little more but not over 350 what can i do to the stock 466 i have and make the rear end last. Also floyd what is the advantage to the backer plate versus and spacerand also do you have a list of the products you make price and how i may be able to get them thanks

oly



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/17/2011 03:38PM by Oly.
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 18, 2011 12:32AM
I ran a llss tractor with twice the hp you are talking using a 560 rear with a 450 utility ring and pinion. I had an atlas constant mesh and second and third gear. Press a solid shaft into lower shaft. I made a support for the ring gear and I never had any problems. I had 24.5 tires and ran a 22-1 gear
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 18, 2011 12:49AM
All good advice from experience thats the best kind. Parts I sell are on my web page [customtractorparts.com] or you can call me at 570 637-1311
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 18, 2011 05:51AM
whats the advantage to the backer plate and price they are not on your site andf also if i use your backer plate do you have a flywheel clutch setup to run were i dont need to change anything just bolt and go
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 19, 2011 02:48AM
My back plate cost $625 and clutches fit in without a lot of work.
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 19, 2011 03:09AM
If i were to get one of your back plates can i run a stock dt 400 series flywheel and just mill it down to fit a 560 ring gear? or do i need to move the ring gear to a different location like the other poster did? after doing some checking im not running more then 250 hp so im going to just run a 986 clutch if i can use stock flywheel without much work
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 19, 2011 01:16PM
use 966 or 986 hydro fly wheel. then 986 clutch kit that we also sell. Ag parts.machine flywheel for ring gear and you will be lined up on the rest.
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 19, 2011 03:29PM
Ok so your backer plate with a 966 flywheel machined to fit a 560 ring gear but leave the ring gear were it originaly was on flywheel with a 986 clutch kit and a 560 pilot bearing or is it the same for a 966 and a 560
I now im asking alot but i really appreciate the help
Also backer plate was 625
986 cltch kit is how much through u ? i work at case ih
and worhtington ag is near by with ih parts



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/19/2011 03:32PM by Oly.
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 19, 2011 05:31PM
It will not work with a regular 966 flywheel. Fred said 966 or 986 HYDRO flywheel, so that may work. I didn't know the hydro flywheel was different.

Here's the dimensions you need to know: If using a regular 966 flywheel, it needs to move rearward 1 1/2" to meet the input shaft. This can be done by using a 1 1/2" spacer with a stock rear plate like I did, and move the 560 ring gear 5/8" forward on the flywheel, OR you can use Fred's rear plate, which I believe is 7/8" thinner than the stock plate, and with the 560 ring gear put on the 966 flywheel in the stock location, the starter will line up BUT, you will be 5/8" away from meeting your input shaft, so a custom input will be needed. Fred said use a Hydro flywheel, so it must make up that 5/8" difference so the stock input shaft will go into the pilot bearing. You have to use a 560 pilot since the 560 input shaft pilot stub is bigger than the 966 stub.
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 20, 2011 06:04AM
Thanks that clears it up alot for me i was geeting confused between the two ways of doing it. What would you take for that spacer and were are you located it sounds like a much better idea for money wise and ease to go that way im not running much horse anyway
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 20, 2011 06:57PM
I'll sell a spacer for $125, including the proper length grade 8 bolts and washers, plus $10 shipping. You can click my name for email or phone number.
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 21, 2011 03:13AM
alright curious i was looking at clutchs today at work for the 986 there are 11 spline and 17 spline what clutch is the proper one i have not gotten the 560 apart yet and do i just use the 560 alignment tool what payment method do you prefer
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 21, 2011 03:22AM
Ya got me there- I didn't know there were two different splines. I just ordered a 986 clutch and it fit fine. The 986 clutch is the same as the 560, just stiffer springs, since a 986 has a hydraulic assisted clutch. The 560 alignment tool will work, or you can just put the pressure plate and disk on the input shaft, and bolt the tractor back together, then bolt the pressure plate to the flywheel working through the access hole in the bottom of the clutch housing. Give me a call, and we'll work out the spacer deal.
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 24, 2011 11:03AM
hey guys, i own a 660 and wanna do some work to it so i thought id jump in on this chat- also i know the 660 has planetary gears which are stronger and have gear reduction. would they be strong enough? also how much sheet and cowlings need to be cut?
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 24, 2011 02:25PM
I haven't seen a 400 series motor put in a 660, but I see no reason why it can't be done. Everything said above should apply. The front bolster will get in the way the same as on my 560W, so the frame and hood will have to be around 6" longer. You will have a bit more clearance under the hood since the 660 sheet metal is taller. As far as the rear being strong enough, I guess it depends on what your horsepower plans are, and I don't know what a 660 will take.
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 25, 2011 12:15AM
I have a 560 already modified that I want to sell if interested email me.
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 26, 2011 11:16AM
how much you askin?
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Re: dt466 into a 560 October 29, 2011 01:55AM
Just finnished harvest, might have little more time to work on this important pullin stuff now. I have a 560 without motor, has weld on hubs, 18.4x38, light front end, pulling hitch, ta delete, modified clutch housing for double disk or heavy ih clutch, needled rear end, rear motor adapter plate, starter spacer, cut front engine plate, longer frame rails, longer hoods, aluminum fenders. Would like $5000 or best offer. I live in Nebraska and could posibly help with freight. Also have a couple different motors i would sell, depends how good you want to run.
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