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What kind of SQHD center section?
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Registered: 01/27/2010 Posts: 101 |
Who is using what for SQHD center sections? As I see it there are 3 choices, the factory cast aluminum version, the factory cast iron version or the billet aluminum one from Humpco.
What is commonly used in the NTPA mod class, unlimited mod and unlimited super stocks? What about PPL's mod class? We have broke 2 factory aluminum centers in 2 years. Both times it started to break when the area around the "snubber" broke and pushed out or the bearing cap broke away. Its hard to tell what happened first when all thats left is a pile of aluminum chunks. I thought the common way to break them was to push the pinion out the front. |
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JJJ
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Humpco are used in the Mods and USS. I am told that's the way to go. |
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Moderator Registered: 03/27/2008 Posts: 1,152 |
Go Humpco and stop worrying...
The factory cast aluminum ones are good for light mods and Super Stocks... A few years ago our twin Allison tore two of them apart in 77 mod already. You want a billet differential to go with it, too. Floating Finish - the German Tractor Pulling Web Show and EU Live Streams: [www.youtube.com] |
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4000.00
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Call him up they are around 4K won't go wrong. If you want another cast alum thou have one for sale. |
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Do you think that the factory aluminum will hold up in a mod 4x4? Weight is an issue but $4000 dollars aint in the budget. |
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SQHD
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We have a Cast Aluminium one we are wanting to sell. |
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HP
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Craig, are the rear cap supports still in tact on your rear housing?
A lot of guys cut them out trying to cut weight, and in my opinion, they need to stay in there to prevent this. You can see the aluminum housing spread if you set your side load adjuster on the ring gear too tight, just to see if it'll do it. All that said,since it is your money, it is easy to say buy the Humpco unit and be done with it. I have seen them and they are a really nice piece of work! I think I'd hang it on a wall in the winter time,, looks like art! He can make them with the reverser right on it if that fits your program. Get that thing done for KC!! Be nice to see you AND Runnin' on Empty in the sand this year. |
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Registered: 12/30/2008 Posts: 276 |
Not sure what the blown one looked like from this season, but this is what the one from Onawa Iowa looked like in the 2010 season.
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cap supports
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Registered: 01/27/2010 Posts: 101 |
The cap supports are in there and tight on the caps.
It sounds like the cast iron version is plenty for our 5000 HP, thanks for everyones opinion. Hey HP, I hope to be playing in the sandpile also |
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TC
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Is chassis flex twisting the rear housing breaking off the cap and housing section? |
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Registered: 03/31/2009 Posts: 309 |
And how much might you want for your center section? |
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SQHD
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950.00 for cast aluminium center section. |
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FWD Puller
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Is that with a carrier and ring and pinion? or just the aluminum housing? |
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SQHD
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Just for the center section, I have needle engler carrier if needed add 450.00 for that. No ring and pinion. |
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Registered: 03/31/2009 Posts: 309 |
SQHD can you pop me an email nicholasak47@yahoo.com. Would like to talk about the alum center section |
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Anonymous User
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fwd puller you should be fine with cast alum. pig if your housing has the cap support plates in it but there is one more area many people don't take care of with the aluminum housing and that is the length of the bolts holding the pinion carrier into the aluminum. You need to use the longest threaded bolts possible in this area as lots of people use the same bolts as were used on the nodular cast iron units and this allowed the pinion to push out as these bolts used only about half of the available threaded area in the aluminum. Many grade 8 socket head cap screws have more threaded length in the 1/2-13 size and in some cases you should even tap the last part of the casting as to get even more threads available. |
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HP
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Good point Don!
When I set my last one up, I used ARP studs that had thread length I needed to get to all the threads, and also had 1/4" plate in front of bearing retainer as sort of a girdle. The gal at Specialty Fastener was very helpful. |
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exactly where people got in trouble on this was using the bolts from the pinion carrier in the stock nodular iron units when they switched to the aluminum housing I am not sure if the stock aluminum housing used longer bolts from the factory or not but it is necessary to do so in tractor pulling also the use of studs with longer threads would be even better as this would preserve the threads in the aluminum even more studs with long threads would also be better to hold the caps on too I have not looked into it but you might also be able to run the cap studs all the way through and machine a flat spot on the front of the case for a nut like an M&W 9" ford aluminum case |
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BananaMaxPuller
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Does anyone know the weight of a factory aluminum complete center section, and the weight of a cast iron one? Thanks. |
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Registered: 01/27/2010 Posts: 101 |
Our cast iron one was 40 lbs heavier than the cast alum. |
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Well
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Last one I weighed both with stock center sections was 20 pound difference. |
Cast aluminum SQHD center section
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ISO cast aluminum SQHD center section
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Registered: 05/08/2016 Posts: 13 |
I would like to buy one, call or text me 937-726-7788 |
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