Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 04:27AM
Has any one tried the new harts superfarm charger and how does it work??

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 04:41AM
i was told it is making more power than their 3by4

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 07:09AM
60HP better than a precision

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 07:32AM
On who's dyno.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 08:48AM
On everyone's. Get in line boys I suggest you get your name on the list

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 10:29AM
does it fit in the gt42 housing?

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 10:43AM
Is it a hx60 or a gt42 based turbo?

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 11:14AM
200hp

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 12:16PM
Gt42 based and about 6k

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 01:25PM
If these SF turbos keep gaining 60hp every year they will be to 1500hp in no time

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 01:27PM
Everytime a new one comes out they always claim 60 hp. right

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 12:06AM
i was told there was a jd from ia that ran ntpa gn that had one of these turbos last season

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 02:32AM
They are already there but it has nothing do with harts.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 01:25PM
HA HA Keep telling people that!

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 01:49PM
If it was that good and I had one, I wouldn't tell a soul......

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 02:48PM
Rumor has it there is a new KY factory opening in Fayette Mo.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 03:15PM
If people are going to ask how good it is, they why rip on people when they say something. if you really want to know, then get to a dyno and try it. I have and I will tell you all that you will be surprised what that GT42 can do. but p*ss on it, I hope you guys that want to complain about how much they cost are ready for the butt kicking you are going to get if your competitors have one and you dont.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 03:23PM
I Agree! Them boys from missouri are for real. I have seen it, but that doesn't matter. Try one!

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 12:18AM
Just glad there is a jelly factory close.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 03:49PM
Give the Hart boys the credit they deserve. The think outside the box and are very smart, they have invested lots of time and money in tools to make them better than the competition. Their fuel pumps, injectors, and turbos are among the best in the business, plus I would rather deal with Brandon Hart than that dickhead Justin at Precision. And by the way, the super farm 3x3 is $5500. Which is a steal with the service and quality of their products.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 11:18PM
Not arguing with you all one bit, harts make some of the best running stuff out there. But I know for a fact that not eiveryone gets the same price..... Have heard 3 different prices from different customers.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 03, 2013 11:23PM
No doubt Harts have done some great things. I have had pretty good dealings with Branden. I don't know if I would trust him all the time. He may even be behind this thread. It has happened before. Precision plays games to make money too. Justin has been good to deal with. He is just the middle man not the bigshot at precision.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 01:04AM
does anyone no if the harts wheel will fit on the precsion?

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 01:50AM
Funny how this thread was started about Hart turbo's right after Outlaws announced what turbo they are going with. Another case of a $1200 GT 42 turbo having a billet wheel installed on it and it is now worth $5500 to $6000. Outlaws exposed all that 6 years ago when they went with the simple GT 42 turbo that out preformed most of these lastest and greatest marked up turbos. Most all of Hart,s turbo wheels will fit Precision Tubo,s as that is where he got his designs from. He will tell you they will fit, just ask him. When it comes to price, it is all over the board for the same piece. Some get better deals and some get better turbos. I think that is why Outlaws went with Precision Turbo, all turbos will be the same and all will cost the same. No favoritism for anyone.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 02:37AM
I'm sure it will be like there other stuff. First couple will be good everyone thinking they're getting the same quality. Then this summer and fall you will see a rash of them for sale. Like them or not don't take my word for it just watch the for sale ads.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 02:55AM
Thats the best response yet. Hits the nail on the head. Yes they do make some very good stuff but it is way to easy to copy stuff these days when all you have to do is chart it themselves or have it charted, study it and improve on it, have a program made or program it themselves, and make it on a 3 or 5 axis cnc mill, lathe, machining center or whatever it may take. Numbers sell and when you can sell em to those who buy no matter what, good for them for making the money. Eventually there will be only so much you can get out of a particular turbo size and from there it comes to engine building. Anyone can cheat numbers on a dyno to make things look good just like you can do with a cylinder head on a flowbench to make it look better than everyone elses as this has been done before but sometimes it just might be better. One thing is for sure its easy to make the IH run when Hypermax and many others of the past have done all the leg work for everyone to allow them to take things a little further with the technology available today that wasn't around even 10 years ago. The 400 series IH is the 350 Chevy engine of tractor pulling, if you can't get them to run you got some serious engine building problems. Having heard of any serious hp JD, Ford, AC, etc engines coming from there but maybe they are. Not taking anything away from what they have accomplished as their stuff runs very well and cudos to them. Just don't get overwhelmed with all the bs.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 03:41AM
Say whatever you want about them. at least they are builders who actually pull and win. Showing that there products work. Great guys to get along with and do business with.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 10:51AM
all i can say is... i would not trust brandon hart as far as i could throw him... mark your stuff if you send it to him, so you know you are getting your stuff back... I'm not sayin', but i am sayin'... and as for builders who pull, do you think the stuff you're getting is as good as what they are running?.. i think not even close.. and as for 60 hp on a dyno, any dummy can make a dyno read whatever they want...

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 12:02PM
The new turbo has been dynoed on red and green tractors on numerous dynos with the same results. Only the r&d work was done at harts.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 12:10PM
Well it looks like Columbus, Schied, FVP, Hyper along with everyone else better just shut their doors because apparently it looks like no one else can keep up with them and their r&d!Smiling

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 01:14PM
It sometimes gets pretty deep in Mid Missouri.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 05, 2013 07:00AM
THat NTPA was changing turbo rules next year

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 07:59PM
Hart's turbo are the best I have ever bolted my tractor I took it to private dyno old turbo was 1370 and with the Hart's Turbo with a few modication we at 1450 Brandon Hart is real helpful and knowledgeable Thumbs Up

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 11:23PM
Might want to clarify the few modifications which may made most of the power!! Doesn't sound like it was all the turbo according to your post. Dyno increases come from tuning engine to the components not just always bolting on parts.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 11:32PM
Yup....at that point, the old turbo should have been bolted back on to see how much HP was lost !!!!

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 04, 2013 11:48PM
At least someone else knows about tuning and checkingWinking on the dyno

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 05, 2013 02:33AM
To all my competition please please please buy one. I'll see you at the pay out.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 05, 2013 04:34AM
Ya, been there, tried that. no better than precision.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 05, 2013 06:11AM
i have been told that its not as good as some say too

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 05, 2013 06:20AM
Buy Harts turbo now at full price for $5500, or just wait till some puller buys it and then it will be for sale on pulloff for $1500.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 06, 2013 04:15AM
I thought harts makes the wheels for precision ?

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 06, 2013 05:54AM
Harts make wheels for Columbus....

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 07, 2013 12:59AM
Harts make wheels for Hypermax, Precision & Columbus. Opps, I mean he copies wheels from Hypermax, Precision & Columbus.

Re: Harts new 3x3 April 07, 2013 03:32AM
im not going to give my name cause its not worth the trouble. but i do not buy parts from the harts boys, i have in the past and have never had a problem. that doesnt matter though, i have been to the shop several times, and if they copy wheels, they do it just the same as hyper,precision,columbus etc. they put in the time, effort and knowledge. im not a big fan of the attitude but i have to give them credit, anything with their sticker on it runs damn good... argue with that..

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