02:20:42pm, Thursday, May 09, 2024
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sloppy
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Did anyone notice the names on the 2 Allis Chalmers classic superstock tractors at keystone nationals? "Slutty Allis" was bad enough but the new tractor called "Sloppy Seconds" seems to have went too far to me. What do you guys think? Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/18/2014 03:09PM by lurch 66. |
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go orange
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wait till you see what the 3rd one is called, could get bloody! |
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no morals
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What are they going to call it "On The Rag" |
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Sloppy 2nds is called that for a reason I am tractor #2 and I have all the sluty Allis sloppy parts Go Orange Dare to be different!!!! |
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Leftovers was already taken! |
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Curious
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Saw on rules that they run a smaller charger. What are they getting for boost for these tractors? |
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They average between 50-60 some a bit more |
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Anonymous User
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I agree it is a family sport. What are you supposed to tell your 6 six year old when they ask what does that mean. Come on John and Lindsey use a little respect and change the names. Your tractors are very nice pieces, run really good, and make the class fun to watch. The class is full of really good people and tractors we all agree its time to make a change to the names of the orange tractors. |
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Sorry bud I'm trying to be very nice here and say to each there own if that's your oppionion that's fine but our sponsers are completely ok and announce our name at the pulls and we are selling shirts like crazy even YOUTH sizes most kids learn more on the bus than at a tractor pull I drove bus so I know that's a true story so sorry not every one agree's to each there own the names stays the same we have TONS of supporters and I'm completely ok with that I'm happy with my family and life and the decisions we have made Johnny works very very hard for what we have and god willing orange will stay on top of the pack |
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just saying
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I heard Full Pull productions was not going to allow them to pull with that name this summer. |
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Registered: 03/25/2010 Posts: 78 |
Until they pay the bill for those tractors and put in the time working on them leave the names, great to see some different color out there and awesoe name to go with it, i think a third one should be called Orange Gazum lol |
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thats why
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This is why we live in the world the way it is today. Lot of people think its cool but don't look beyond just a name on a tractor. Need values and ethics in this sport. No disrespect to the tractors or owners as it is their decision, just wish people would use better judgement for the future of our youth and pulling. |
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first of all me personally i have no problems with the names of these tractors and as far as having to tell a young child what those names means we as parents can describe it in different ways like the slutty allis that means the tractor has had different owners and sloppy seconds call it left over parts but dont be hateful and disrespectful to the owners of these machines my children hear way worse stuff on the school bus with older children and most young kids watch the nfl and nba or mlb in which they have athletes charged with drugs and murder and assault so as far as naming your tractor a certain name all the haters can just calm down because there is worse stuff out there to worry about than a name on a tractor pulling tractor |
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Face in crowd
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First of all, it is not disrespectful to the owners of the tractor to disagree with names that are that far out there. Unless they are naive to the social networking world we live in, they would have to know that choosing names of that nature would bring them some criticism.
Second, let's not rationalize this. Sure kids can hear bad things on a bus or on TV, that doesn't make you immune to criticism if you put a name with an obvious sexual reference on your tractor. They're trying for adult laughter at the risk of drawing the ire of parents with kids. That's OK for them, I guess. |
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white trash
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the name tells you two things; the owners have no class [never met them but dont need to with a name like that] it's a white trash name and says more about the people who own it than it does about tractor pulling. it also tells you that society is losing its values and morals. thanks liberals |
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Agreed
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Where is that like button? I totally agree. |
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I Agree
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I agree 1000%... |
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Registered: 04/07/2008 Posts: 781 |
funny how most that post on here dont use real name |
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Name caller
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Things like this is what will keep pulling from being seen as a legitimate motorsport. You don't see race teams in NASCAR called "The ASS-phalt Bandits" or "The Circle Track Jerks".
Grow up. There's a difference between being a redneck and being classless white trash. |
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Totally agree, with so many of these tractors having names that are comical and funny, possibly even referencing the brands of tractors or the brand's theme, I think that is really cool, and the tractors with those type of names are really the minority for sure, I sure would hope they would see that someday. |
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me too
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White trash is an American epidemic. When I see a name on a tractor, every one of them become a portrait of the owner. It's pretty hard to have a tramp stamp that says SLUT,,,, and not be one. |
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Really
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Just get over it. It is their tractors, you can name yours what ever you want. I personally would not choice that name, but that is their choice. Get over it. So your sayin that you see Cheezic being ARM and DANGEROUS? |
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Gawd
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People need to get off the farm and see the world, bet ud say the names are ok if Daddy said they were,, losers |
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Lindsey, really like the looks of your tractors, haven't seen them hook though.
Where did John get his "skull" helmet done at? that's classic. Saw it on some of the gordyville photos. |
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First I would like to say congrats to Linsey he'll of a great job this past weekend you go girl! I was at keystone and I thought that the tractors art absolutely flawless and very professional more professional than most others . The whole problem here is it s not a international because they are god and can have the rules forever in their favor if there was a 1066 with that name everyone would think it was cool people need to mind their wn dam business and stop trying to run everyone else's life worrie about your self . I unfortunately did not get the chance to talk to Linsey or her hubby but their tractors are very net clean and orderly they should have been in best of show as far as I am concerned but once agin it's not red so we can't have that if you want to start with inappropriate things lets start else were and leave these two hard working people alone kids learn more crap in school they they will at any pull start there sad this world is turning in to a bunch of whine asses the name means something more than you people think get your heads out of the gutter who's got the sick mind now huh ? Different story when arrows pointed towards you
Congrats to Linsey he'll of a job glad to see the good color headed to the top never change that name it's awesome!!!!!! Good luck to ya have a hell of a good year Go! Orange!!!!!!! |
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Anonymous User
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Everyone has their own opinion... I agree with Chris R. These names are embarrassing for other orange pullers. I can't see where anyone would be proud to have that on their tractor. They do seem to run well, and I'd like to cheer for them to do well, but can't bring myself to do it with the names... Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/16/2014 02:31AM by Bullet Fan. |
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Shore will be nice when the weather straightens up and you keyboard commandos can get outside!!!!! You guys bitch about trivial @#$%& such as this, but if a fellow puller needs mechanical help nobody replies. Your worried about family values, comments on this post has done more advertising than Danica Patrick at a nascar demo derby. Oh by the way those Go Daddy girls are self explanatory..... ITS TIME TO GROW UP!!!!! |
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Supertiquer
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Keyboard commandos? LOL GOOD ONE!!!!!!! 
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Anonymous User
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I like the names and will tell my kids what the names means when the time comes. Keeps the pulls interesting.
There are worse things in this world that I will have to explain to my kids than the names on the side of a tractor. |
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Dumb and dumber
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So your going to tell your 5 year daughter what it means? You are a real good person |
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Registered: 12/13/2008 Posts: 91 |
Lindsey do you have any t shirts for sale at keystone? |
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Orange fan
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Yeah. It's a family sport. Now pass me a beer and move out of the way. Cause when that drunk girl in the front shows her boobs, I want a good view. |
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^^^^^^^^^^^ agreed with the guy above!!! |
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me to |
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TSF
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I had a 4 charger D21 back in the early 90's whose name was " Titty Sqeez'in Fool ". Everybody got a kick out of it,knowone was ever affended as far as i know,my mother use to even go pick up the T-Shirts,made more money selling T-Shirts than anything i've been into sence,lol.PS: we milked cows at the time,had picture of a milk cow on the side shields. Kent Anderson |
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dan j
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Really people!! You are worried about the name sluty allis and sloppy seconds. Really? I tell you what summer is coming so you better take her shopping so she can get some shorts about half as long as my boxers. While your out doing that you probably better get your son the fastest and greatest killing video game so when he getaways home he can rip someone's head off or mow down 20 people in a few seconds with that awesome machine gun they just go enough points for. Your worried about explaining a couple words? Please. Hey why don't you paint it red or green while your at it. Don't change a thing. Go orange!!!! |
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lpn
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haha I wish there was a like button for some of these posts. the name really isn't that bad. night time hooker, riding dirty, yank me crank me, a diesel truck named cumin hard, I could dream up a list of other vehicle names that people could find offensive. you don't like their tractors cause of what they are named, don't watch them pull. if you don't like strip clubs don't stop at one. if you don't like what's on tv don't watch it. you see where I'm going with this. |
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have heard enough
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Was there and heard him also. Very embarrassing for alot of people. It just marks his and Klints level of professionalism. I would've thought Klint could have put a lid on him. Sorry to say if he is announcing at any pull we are at again we will leave like we did in gville. Just a shame you make plans and travel to suppurt the event and it has turned to this. |
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Wow
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Most people have seen worst things in private than they pretend to be shocked at in public. |
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i love it
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i agree my kid comes home from school with a whole lot worse than that. It does not matter what you do there is always some one out there that has to complain about some thing and this is it. This is america we have freedom. they dont like you because your orange. All brands besides inernational and or johndeere are an out cast. Keep on keepen on. Where can we get those shirts at? |
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Registered: 03/25/2010 Posts: 78 |
I love the names of the tractors, leave them as they are maybe a third name can be Orange Gazem lol |
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Anonymous User
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you ever go look at what the eople at the pulls are wearing it is rare that you dont see at least 1 fan that has a tshirt on that dosent use the f word and people are offended by slutty allis and sloppy seconds. you should worry about somthing important. |
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Registered: 04/07/2008 Posts: 781 |
seen a shirt used to be f**king stupid, than we broke up now that is funny |
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Gville announcer
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If you think the names of these tractors is horrible then obviously you weren't at gville this year when the announcer from Wisconsin started up, everything immediately became a sexual innuendo or dick joke. How un family oriented is that, if he were announcing anywhere around where I'm from I would definitely not take my kid and even think about leaving my wife at home. |
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Haters gonna hate, go big orange. |
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Registered: 01/17/2009 Posts: 207 |
Who started this ridiculous thread... but do like the name for Nascar "Circle Jerkers", LMAO
If you don't like the name, don't read it... |
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what has the world come to
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You people are way too touchy now days. No wonder its such a sh!+y world we live in. |
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No offense
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But I think you have to read the name before you realize you don't like it. jmho |
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amirikan
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It's America & they can write what they want on their tractors. But they better accept the fact that it's America for the organization that says you aren't pullin here unless you cover it up, it's America for the fair venue to tell the organization we aren't booking you next year because you offend our paying customers . But it really irks me to see someone do something to get attention & then cry & whine when they get it. Trust me, these are not the classiest folks in the pulling world & it's got nothing to do with brand either. |
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Freedom
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The problem with all you, "I've got the right crowd", failed the next day of class or your home school teacher was not too smart. Because they taught you that Your freedom is measured on your ability to not piss off others. Pissing of others is not a freedom you can flaunt in the USA. One of our fundamental freedoms is to not have to put up with trash. We have the right to complain, a lot of us support our local fairs and our money talks. The promoters and the national organizations take a lot advise from their customers, about what they want to see. We don't care how you live on your property, If it's far enough out of sight, but the moment you enter our zone you become a guest of ours.
Whether you like it or not YOU must abide by the standards of any particular environment. If you cannot grasp that very simple act you will be on the outside looking in. You people that never got the word of did not make it that far in your education, do not have the right to do what you want. See you can make a porno, you just cannot project it anywhere you want. |
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Professional ?
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Ummm wheres the Professionals here? Its tractor pulling- who cares what they name a tractor, under rocks yet?? Lol , get a FB account and be somebody |
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as185
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Paint the Allis red or green nobody would say a thing.... Go orange.. The red and green guys are jealous, because your drawing attention away from them. |
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majority
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I want to start by saying that this has absolutely nothing to do with color. I don't care if the tractor is an Allis Chalmers, John Deere, International, Ford, Oliver or whatever. It still shows bad taste. If I was the owners of these tractors, I would be embarrased to have these names on the side of my tractor. I feel bad for the announcers that have to announce these names at the events. These tractors pull mostly at County fairs and these type of sexual innuendos are uncalled for. I know some of the fair board members were already offended with the "slutty allis" name but I am afraid "sloppy seconds" is going to put them over the edge. This is a good class but I fear that this will cause some of the fairs to drop the class.
This family has young boys of their own. Just what kind of values and morals is this instilling in them? This whole thing shows lack of respect for the other pullers, the pull promoters, the pull announcers, the fans, their own families, and ultimately, even themselves. |
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From a different perspective think about a county offical having to deal with complaints from the fan base. Your on government properties with most fairs. This could bring unwanted attention to the fair from outside government agency's. In which could cause pulling being lost because of a name of a tractor. I'm not for all the political correctness but there is a limit on how far you can go. Hope they change the names. This could bring unwanted attention by some politician wanting to get into office and run on this. Remember I think it was the Iowa state fair a guy wore a Obummer mask. Now every employee and contractor for the fair has to go through ethics training before there allowed on the property. Now would all of us pullers like to spend time to go through a course like that. |
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Majority
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What are these young boys going to tell their teacher on Monday when their teacher asks which tractor did better? "Sloppy Seconds ate Slutty Allis for breakfast" |
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Orange fan
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I like the names the way they are. People will remember you. I don't recall half of the red tractors or green tractors in the class. Bet I'll remember "slutty allis" and "sloppy seconds" and by the way, they don't run half bad. |
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Freejority
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Well said Freedom & Majority. I am no prode by any means. I have no problem with bars , strip joints or whatever. If I go inside I know what to expect. It's a place I may go if out with some of the guys. They are certainly not places I would go with my kids. The lacal fair is a place I would take my kids, knowing that a striptease act is not going to take place on the midway. These people sound like little spoiled children looking for attention. What kind of man would put his wife on something called Sloppy Seconds ? Hopefully the other clubs follow FPP's lead & explain to these people that they are in public, either act like it or else they can park these things out back at the trailer park & leave them there. And I don't care what color they are, how professionally built they are or anything else. I would guess their conduct at the pulls likely matches the judgement they showed in lettering the tractors. |
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I agree as a promoter of a very big pull, these cats would not be allowed on the premises with those tractors with those names on them. It is disrespectful and an embarrassment to the entire pulling world from antique pulling all the way to the national series and everything in between. I hope all promoters stand there ground in this matter and not allow these tractors to compete until names are cleaned up. |
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Everyday one can hear something that offends us be it a TV commercial, TV show, song, a teenager’s language, dance, tractor name and on and on. Each of you makes a conscience choice of what is right or wrong according to YOUR morals. My morals are different from your morals and so forth. Words have many different meanings. Our Tractor is called “High Dollar Hooker”. Yes before you start calling us diseased and awful and passing judgment on us here is what is behind the name. The tractor HOOKS to the sled! Yes Hence HOOKER and it took 2 yrs. and cost us around $50,000 to put here together. So wouldn’t you agree our tractor is one “High Dollar Hooker”? Not one of you has the right to choose what we name our tractor but it is your right to name your own! You can choose to like our name or not, but not to judge us by that name. We will all have our judgment day before the Lord Almighty. Leave it to our Lord to judge. If you are a Christian you know that to judge another is a sin! Oh and by the way one of the meanings for Hooker according to the dictionary is “Rugby the player in the middle of the front row, who tried to hook the ball”!! OOOppps BETTER BAN Rugby!!!!
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stupid people
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high dollar hooker "hooker" has a pulling meaning behind it. Slutty and sloppy have no tractor pulling meaning behind it at all. But you are right on everyone has a choice of what is right or wrong. There choice, but there choice don't mean nothing when the fair they are pulling at sends them packing because of these stupid names |
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Registered: 01/11/2013 Posts: 74 |
Slutty, could be because its hooked to a lot of different sleds, and Sloppy Seconds could be because its pulling after other tractors. Huh, guess it does have a pulling meaning behind it, just depends how you interpret it. Sheesh, all you goody-goodies really need to take a look at society in general these days, and you'll see that there are far worse things out there to get in an uproar about... To John and Lindsey, I have no idea who you are, nor have I saw a picture of your tractors, but you sound like very competitive people that enjoy the sport and like to have fun. Don't let them get to you, and definitely don't change the names. LOL!!! |
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redneck
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For those of you concerned about the "name" on these tractors. And saying these names are "redneck" names. Let me enlighten you a little bit.
Rednecks are the only ones I have ever saw "name" their tractors. So if you have a name on any tractor, you might be a redneck! Secondly. Are you so repressed in life, and in your sexuality that you can't handle a simple name that has nothing to do with sexuality, although you reference it sexually? Some people really need to lighten up a little bit. Look, tractor pulling will never be nascar, never has, never will be. And it won't even be close! Nascar has millions of dollars of sponsorship. More tv exposure than tractor pulling will ever get close to. So no matter what, it won't be or come close to nascar. So don't worry about a few names out there. In society today, like someone previously mentioned. Should we all get upset about Chizeks tractors name; Considered Armed and Dangerous? Come on, there's enough things like Newtown and Colorado going on. Should that be banned as well? Should we all get our undies in a bunch over a name like that as well. Some of you people really need to lighten up! There's nothing wrong with any of these names. The only thing wrong is how you perceive them. |
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majority
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Let me ask you one question. Would you have your wife or daughter drive a tractor called "Sloppy Seconds"? |
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redneck
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Well, if the name of the tractor is in reference to old parts that were used up from a different tractor. And I had little pictures of gears or turbos or pistons along with the name, then sure. Why not?
It wouldn't be MY fault that YOU took the name in the wrong way. Especially when I have a picture of a turbo on the hood, next to the name referencing an old second hand turbo. Or engine part. What's the difference between these names on these two tractors, and the redneck hillbilly that has the sticker in the back window of his truck that says. "i'd rather be rammin it than stroking it" Or whatever they say. What really is the difference? Is it ok because we know that he is talking about a Dodge Ram and a Ford Powerstroke? And because 80% of the population knows those two as well? Well if that's true, then why are these two names wrong when we know it's secondhand parts they are talking about? There's a lot of names on tractors I don't agree with. But do I throw a stink? What will be funny about this whole situation is. When some pulling organization, or fairground bans them from pulling there because of the names. And they file a lawsuit against the organization, and the fairboard. It's the first thing I would do if I owned these two tractors. And the courts will side with the owners of these two tractors probably. They won't be thrilled about it. But they will. |
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Majority
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How about if the picture shows vaginal juices flowing down the side shield. |
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Majority
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I rest my case! |
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redneck
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Are you sure they are vaginal juices? Do you see a vag painted on the side to know for certain they are vaginal juices? Or are you just "assuming" these are vaginal juice?
You know what they say about "assume"? |
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puller/part time promoter
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Because some poor anouser is going to have to say these names across a public address system on government property. That's why. It will draw unwanted attention by the fairboard members and maybe county commissioners. Most fairboards I deal with are usually older people who will not take kindly to these names and pulling will hurt from it. What most people don't understand is that if there is any controversy that spills over to the fairboard the fairboard deals with it the easiest way possible. That group is no.longer welcome on the property. Seen for lesser stuff that that. Especially if someone is looking for a reason. |
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redneck
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So it's MANDATORY for the announcer to say the tractors name?
The announcer can't just say "up next from Anywhere, is John Doe with his Allis" Do you see what i'm saying? The announcer has the ability to use his judgement in saying the name of the tractor if he wants to or doesn't want to. It's not mandatory for him to. Let me guess. You are all the same people that think we shouldn't have any guns in the US because 4 people were shot in Chicago last night? And because 26 were killed in Newtown Connecticut a year ago? Because criminals got their hands on guns, that law abiding citizens shouldn't be allowed to have them. And because one person died in a drunk driving accident, that we shouldn't be allowed to have a beer and drive? I love how pathetic this country is getting. Because 5 people find something offensive, we need to get rid of it. And it's only gotten worse since this last guy was elected president |
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disgusted
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both tractor names are pretty trashy and if theres another definitin of sloppy seconds in the mind of a man lay it on us. they may hav the rite to name them whatever they want but they gotta deal with the backlash ppl gonna judge with there money if they dont judge with there mouth tractors look nice but took a turn for the worse when they got lettered up
and by the way redneck "And because one person died in a drunk driving accident, that we shouldn't be allowed to have a beer and drive?" THAT IS THE DUMBEST THING EVER WRITTEN ON THIS PAGE signed-a man who has lost 3 friends to drunk driving |
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redneck
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So none of you self proclaimed righteous people still haven't answered my question.
"What's the difference between these names on these two tractors, and the redneck hillbilly that has the sticker in the back window of his truck that says. "i'd rather be rammin it than stroking it" Or whatever they say. What really is the difference? Is it ok because we know that he is talking about a Dodge Ram and a Ford Powerstroke? And because 80% of the population knows those two as well?" What is the difference between the names of these two tractors and the sticker in the back window of the 20 year old kid with the dual stacks in the box of his souped up dodge ram that says just that? Should I be offended by that? Should I have to explain to my son that it's ok to "ram" a girl, and not ok to "stroke it"? It's ok to go to the county fair, and watch the diesel truck class, and some kid has that in the back window of his dodge pickup, and I get to explain that to my son? Sure little johnny. Go ahead and ram that chick! knock her up! Just don't be "powerstrokin it" I can find that every bit offensive as you can the names of these two tractors in question. |
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I swore I wasn't going to comment anymore but I am completely overwhelmed by some of the comments on here how can you be so righteous yet so judgemental on the type of people we are so I change the name of my tractor what else will you complain about next???? a female who is running a stock motor going out for her first time ever on the tractor Thursday at keystone by the way very nice facility nicest one Yet and Beating everyone but one tractor I'm pretty sure that has something to do with it and the fact that it's orange there are a certain few in our class that has tried everyway to put my husband down the sluty Allis has been named that for years and since last year at our annual meeting they couldn't get our motor throwed out they found something else to complain about this year I WILL change the name of my tractor god forbid some of you loose sleep at night over it but the sluty Allis will remain the same and as for my children we eat breath and live for them they are the most hard working respectful well mannered kids you will ever meet so DO not involve them in your petty comebacks please I would also like to note that I'm pretty sure 80% of this negativity is coming from one or two men the same ones to complain at the meeting this year we know who you are and I'm putting my real name on here and I surely have nothing to hide thanks to those of you the name does have a meaning I do have old used parts and wasn't done painting it yet we were still in progress of a theme pictures to go on it but looks like that's gonna change your not gonna keep from beating you on the track by arguing over something so petty wait till there are 3 orange ones out here this summer it's gonna be a blast!! |
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helpful thoughts
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So now let's all focus on renaming sloppy. How about second harvest or bootlegger? Let's all give her some help and quit being so negative |
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LadyPuller
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Sloppy seconds can have many different definitions but coming from tractor pulling we use "sloppy seconds" a lot around the shop when we steal parts off one place on the other tractor...when second tractor was being built this name came up a lot! People need to get their heads out of their @ss and worry about something else...like maybe the missing plane! Thanks Morgans for letting me express my opinion! |
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I raced dirt track cars for years. And from some of the tracks I ran at you would think there could never be anything like NASCAR Some of them were much more professional That's where NASCAR began That's where we start building We may never get there but we can get better |
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the Practice
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They can file a lawsuit if they wish. Some lawyer will happily take their cash. They most assuredly will not win it. I guarantee it. Fairboards & organizations have great legal leeway in setting their rules of conduct & standards. I don't see too many people from the group these clowns pull with speaking up for them either. Please don't insult our intelligence that these names do not imply sexual inuindo either. These pulling groups & fairboards are at much greater risk of losing lawsuits to some gold digging "offended unsuspecting spectator with pschologically harmed children" than they ever are of losing one to these juvenile hillbillies. |
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mean greene
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I think someone got tired of posting tHERe real name... |
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CNN
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Come on Redneck, Are you auditioning for a gig on Fox News ? |
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just my thought
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I was at the pull all weekend and I think u should be very proud of the hard work u have in those 2 tractors and u guys were a class act at the pull plus I love the names pulling is about having fun and being with friends that part of y this is such a great sport don't let a couple a$$ bring u down hope u r hack next year |
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Registered: 03/25/2010 Posts: 78 |
New name Orange Gazum lol |
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leave the jokes for someone funny
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yeah, we heard you the first time and it wasnt funny then either. |
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Old Allis Puller
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I just got home from church...In the past I pulled an AC and I'm far from a prude...I have enough respect for my family that I would have never named my puller with names like those two...I'm sure that someone will have to top those two names...Lets have a contest so see whom can get away with the raunchiest name on their puller...How long will it be before someone has the" F" word on their tractor....Lets go ahead take pulling to an all time low... |
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Smokie
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I was gonna have a sticker made for our Allis after the song "Who the "****" is Alice"... Definitely wouldn't be the name you put on the sign in sheet though.. |
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Got one ...Frickin Bleedin Red. |
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Happy to say I know the owners of these tractors. Great people, giving to the community, and the nicest and most well behaved kids I know. I have been to pulls and heard way worse things than the names of these tractors. I say keep the names. And remember people who live in glass houses should not throw stones....
John/lindsey I guess this is what you get for being so darn good! HAMMER DOWN! |
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Ate up
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You guys that have something against these names outa get off your loser asses and get into the real world,,, or msybe the machines are too much to compete with! Lol! |
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Peters Beater
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If you don't like the names of the tractors don't look at them I think that they are very creative...most of these people wining are just mad cause they were too stupid to come up with the names themselves...keep b!t@#in nerds its fun to watch...and just remember "its mine and I'll pull it as hard as I want to" |
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funny
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There goes my name THE HORNY HARVESTER with my 4 foot long bull horns mounted to the hood change the harvester to allis you can have it for that 3rd tractor |
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Builder
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3rd one could be "Pimpin ain't easy" |
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keyboard puller
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I'm going to call my tractor "cunt rag" and paint it red |
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Anonymous User
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I H named "that time of the month" |
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Keystone fan
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Seen it.. Only could think the driver must be a late night party favorite. |
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heres the difference between classless white trash and creativity;
hooker - has multiple meanings, only one of which is trashy yet other meanings actually relate to the sport. isnt there a hooker of the year in many clubs and arenet we mature enough to not laugh at the trophy presentation horny - has multiple meanings, only one of which is trashy slutty - one meaning and it's not a compliment this has nothing to do woth the color of the tractor or the engine or the class or if it runs good. this is about a white trash name that reflects on its owners. might as well have named it classless white trash tractors 1 and 2. dont know the owners never met them never even seen them but i picture some greasy jerry springer watching trailer trash thats crude and has no class no dignity no manners when i here the names of their tractors. may be nice people and may be a nice tractors but the names sure dont speak well of them. |
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to woman's view
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I'm not defending their choice of name for the tractor, in my honest opinion probably kind of crude...but "displaying porn to minors"? Come on, do a little research before you just pile on. |
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I would like to hear the Morgan's views on these tractors names, they are professionals inside the sport and I would like to hear their take. However if they wish to stay out of it I respect that too. Thanks Jake |
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First off, shame on those of you that have posted negative comments about the Rose family’s children. If you want to bash John and Lindsey about the names on their tractors that’s one thing, but to drag their children into it is downright pathetic. I know the Rose family personally, and they are doing a fantastic job of raising their boys. Teaching them and obviously showing them, the results of hard work. John and Lindsey operate a small business and farm on the side, and those boys are already involved at a young age learning from their parents how to be successful in this world. As for the tractor names, it’s understandable that some people will be offended by them. I don’t see anyone boycotting Justin Bieber or Miley Cyrus, our society practically idealizes those 2 clowns for their success and bad behavior. I just want the world to know that I support the Rose family and am not afraid to sign my name.
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Thank you (woman's view) It is time we stood up for the morals of this country as they are going down hill fast.
I'm sure I will be put down for my view, because I always do on here. I hope Jake will will stop this like he did a year ago when a bunch of lies were told about me. Thanks Jake MACK PUP Eugene McNeely |
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Old Allis Puller
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Well said Eugene...Those names are a disgrace to an Allis Chalmers tractor..You didnt see stuff like this 30 years ago.. |
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this is ridiculous do you really think that someone would spend the time and money to make a tractor look that nice if they were "classless white trash" and even national level politicians can agree that wife and kids are out of bounds. I may be wrong because i have not seen slutty up close only sloppy, but it is my understanding it is called slutty allis and somewhere on the tractor it said " cuz i will hook up with anything" or something along those lines. If this is true doesnt that give you your pulling connection saying they will hook to any sled or pull at any venue. I have heard alot worse listening to country music which is supposed to be good wholesome family fun. Get over yourselves and quit driveing good tractors and teams out of the motorsport I love. |
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I think this is getting a little out of hand. The thing is we live in country that allows us freedoms and rights among those a freedom of speech. after seeing a pic of the tractor it clearly is not pornography so the only argument is its suggestive nature but yet but yet nobody ever says anything about all the rude and crude cummin s and stroking sayings all over the diesel trucks or the chrome testicles hanging off the back of them or all the pulling vehicles named after mistress or an affair or other woman or playboy or hustler all of them in sexual suggestive nature and loose ethics and morals so regardless of personal feelings about whatever they so choose to name their tractor it's they're right and who are we to say whether it should be changed or not after all is this not a free country? |
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I agree. It would be nice to see some class from some pullers and one announcer that announced in Gordy this year. If this the direction some are trying to take the sport it's in trouble. |
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Obama is president, states in this country are legalizing marijuana and gay people are getting married and you people are worried about these names???? Seriously get over it. I'd rather explain to my children the sexual innuendo then to explain why everyone thinks its ok to be high and impair yourself or have to explain to them why the kid down the street has 2 moms or 2 dads. these names are not a problem at all. the problem is the people who are complaining about them. this country as a whole is ruining itself not the names of 2 tractors that no one outside of the pulling world could care less about. keep the names hold your head high and keep proving yourself on the track and kill the haters with kindness. |
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IAM ONLY GOING TO MAKE ONE COMMENT. IAM THE OWNER OF THE THIRD TRACTOR AND MY DAUGHTER DRIVES THE SLOPPY SEC AND IT ONE THING TO COMMENT ABOUT THE NAMES ON A COUPLE OF TRACTORS BUT TO HIDE BEHIND THAT SCREEN AND JUDGE THESE PEOPLE CHARACTHER AND CALL THEM WHITE TRASH AND BAD PARENTS WELL LET ME TELL YOU @#$%& SOMETHING THESE ARE GOOD PEOPLE AND GREAT PARENTS JUST BEC A HAND FULL OF RETARDS DONT LIKE SOMETHING AND HAVE TO DIG DEEPER TO THINK THEY ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE WHICH THER NOT. I LOOK AT ALL THESE COMMENTS AND IT 5-6-1 IN FAVOR OF THE NAMES THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING. WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND AS FAR AS COMING TO YOUR PULL I SAID 3 YRS AGO IT WAS THE WORST PULL ON OUR SCH AND I WOULDNT BE BACK SO I WONT BE LOSING ANY SLEEP OVER IT AND DAM SURE WONT MISS SPENDING 4 HRS CLEANING MY TRACTOR AFTER I BEEN TO YOUR PULL. HELL IF I WANT TO GET IT THAT MUDDY I WILL JUST GO TO YANKEE LAKE HAHA. HOW DO YOU LIKES ALITTLE CRITICISM JERK. AND BY THE WAY I HAVE TALKED TO A PROMOTER WAY BEFORE THIS BEFORE @#$%& STARTED AND HE SAID HE WOULDNT CHANGE THE NAMES BEC THERE IS ALOT OUT THERE WITH NAMES THAT ARE SIMILAR NAMES. SO I GUESS YOU HAVE THE SAME PANTS TO GET GLAD IN AND KARMA CAN BE A REAL BITCH. IAM ROCCO VIZZUSO AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE. GO ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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WOW... I am shocked as to where this thread has lead, from bashing two tractors, then their owners, then on to there children. I am just a fan of this motor sport and got hooked watching the smoke roll and the roar of power. Not from coming to see the names of these tractors. I believe the Rose Family works very hard to support there way of life and this sport they love. As a pulling fan I wish others would put more effort into beating those awesome orange tractors instead of fearing them. As for the names Slutty Allis an Sloppy Seconds keep them in the winners circle. I`m not only Family, but also a Fan....~ TOM PARK ~ |
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Jeremy Mayfield
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Hey Rocco .. it appears that your Caps Lock button may be stuck on. |
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I am old enough to know that in society language tends to degrade as time goes on. I remember my older sister in anger saying "Crap" (she was 14 at the time in the mid 1960s) , my parents were VERY upset with my sister for being vulgar. Well times have changed, I catch myself in anger uttering words (in the shop) that were inappropriate a decade ago. HOWEVER in a public place there should still be some common courtesy to the paying public. When I view the crowd in the stands at the tractor pulls, I like seeing the parents and kids (mostly Dads and sons) in the stands. I would hate to think that even a small number of those parents would be offended by a name and not come to another pull. Call me old a old geezer, a prude I dont care, I just think that the paying public should be paramount as they are the ones that make pulling as a sport possible. |
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feedom & responsibility
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We live in a great country that gives us freedom of speech & many others. But with those freedoms come some responsibilities as well. It's why we have laws. The old "yelling fire in a theatre" example. Reading this entire thread I have not seen these people's children attacked in any way. Felt badly for maybe. The wife ? Give us a break, she's driving the thing. As someone else said many seem to think their freedoms are measured in their ability to offend as many people as humanly possible & then cry victom when someone else calls them on it. Like the rodeo clown cited earlier. He was not fired for wearing an Obama mask. He was fired for running around pretending to ram a broom handle up his behind while wearing it, not caring in the least that there were young kids there. Now we learn that the father is in this pulling team & despite his not so good grammer it seems he has no problem with his daughter out there driving something with one of the most degrading terms any woman could be called. I don't know these people at all & would as soon keep it that way. But it's not just about them & they seem unable to accept that. They are in public at a pay to get in event. And while many people at that event likely would not be offended if it were a "clothing optional" event, others would. Common sense & courtsey folks. The world works a whole lot better if we all try to practice it. |
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Richard Warren
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After following this discussion it has me second guessing my tractor's name. We named it after a mean southern snake but now I wonder if everybody thinks we are drunks! I'm not a fan of graphics and I like nice paint but maybe I should put one on it? Signed, the owner of Cottonmouth. |
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Freedom and Responsibility hit the nail on the head! Thank you!
I am so sick of hearing people try to bash this pulling team...people who don't have tractors, don't have time and money invested in the sport and just want to get on the ol' keyboard and bash away. We live in a double standard country these days...people can shove their beliefs down your throat and can say and do as they feel and it's "their right." As soon as they see something they don't like or don't believe in, instead of allowing that person or group to enjoy their rights or belief, they want to bash, bash, and bash! My little boy was with me all weekend at Keystone and he's only 3. If he was a little older, and asked me what the names were, I'd do my best to explain it to him as opposed to throw a hissy fit on the internet. Come on folks...let's be part of the solution, not the problem! Slutty Allis and Sloppy Seconds, you have great looking and great running machines. Hope you have a great pulling year! |
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ahhhhhggg
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Finding out Dad is in the mix too is just too much. This has got to be one strange bunch. I'm not sure Jerry Springer would touch this one. I'm getting ill reading about this !! |
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I see someone has deleted Posts that weren't trashing anyone, only making a point that didn't bash anyone. What's up with that? |
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relax
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Why wasn't this issue brought up after pulling at Gordyville? They pulled there and no issues with names there. Why now. |
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Anonymous User
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Here's my view, they put their time and money into the tractors so they can call them whatever they want, I mean what's next are y'all gonna be wanting the nurse taken off the side of The Remedy 1206 of Beer Money? It's tractor pulling, not church. |
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point made
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The fact that the board moderator has to edit out one of these tractor names on here kind of proves the point doesn't it ? Although he edited the lesser offenseive of the two. You know it's only a matter of time until someone has to one up this bunch & be even cruder. Whatever group these things run in needs to put some rules in place before that happens. Hopefully it's not the father trying to one up them. That really is a little twisted . |
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Hey Jake
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Hey Jake what do you think about making this a POLL let people vote on this so they can see how people really feel about this. It might shed some light to some how people really feel. Instead of just bashing. Would you rather see pulling maintain a level of respect. Or be a R/X rated show. Might as well include some announcers in it also. Like the guy from Wis or where he was from. |
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Are us farm people really that out of touch with the world ? Let me try to explain my point to Full Pull Dream. No the picture will not be an issue on the Remedy tractor. It is just a picture of a sexy woman. Being's we are at a pull & not church, it is perfectly acceptable, & an imaculate tractor by the way if it's yours. Now switch to the 2 tractors in question. Also very nice machines other than the graphics. They are in a public venue where people of all ages & values should be able to come & enjoy the show. The 2 names on those machines are possibly the 2 vileist, filthiest names you could refer to a woman as. If you think that's silly try addressing a female co-worker by either if you have a job. You will be unemployeed immediately. And likely sued too. The fact that a woman drives one only makes it worse. There are just some words that are no longer used in decent society because most simply don't want to hear them. They are disgusting & not funny to anyone with an IQ over 10. Would you be OK taking your wife & kids to a pull & someone drives in with a big male genetallia painted on a tractor ? You know something like that will come in order to upstage these bozos. By the way, a little research.. These tractors pull with the Central Ohio Pullers Club & The Full Pull Productions group out of west Pennsylvania. Just in case anybody wants to make sure you see them, or in my case avoid them. |
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,526 |
Maybe I'm just in a bad mood tonight, maybe I sick of stupid people today, maybe I'm annoyed at how poorly these names reflect on this motorsport, or maybe I'm sad that the family can't see that these name reflect poorly on them. Whatever the reason, I'm not going to mince words on this topic, and some may not like or agree with what I have to say.
That aside, lets clear some things up, I haven’t deleted any posts. Maybe one of the moderators did, but I haven't. Now lets get into it:
My personal opinion – first, let me say that I'm not a prude and I may have even dated a girl or two in the past who some would described by the s-l-u-t-t-y adjective. I'm not offended by those words and I understand fully what that phrase means, but I'm 38 years old. I don't think the word constitute pornography but I also don't think they are appropriate. The names aren't something I'd call my tractors. I wouldn't want my daughter or wife in the seat of a tractor with those names and I wouldn't want to be in the seat of a tractor with those names. Many, including myself, feel that the names reflect poorly on the owners judgement. My standards are obviously different than others, and that's OK with me. Are those names appropriate for all ages? Definitely not. If you think otherwise you have very, very, very poor judgment. Yes some kids know what those words and phrases mean, many younger fans don't. Yes, there a worse things in society to worry about, but these names are a symptom of the problems with our society. Just because a kid hears the F-bomb on the school bus, it doesn't mean we should let them go to school with that on their Tee-shirt! Its common sense and decency that seem to be in short supply lately. I shouldn't have to go to a pull and explain to my kids that we don't use that word even though it's on the side of a tractor. The names are crude, and classless. There is NO way to defend them unless you're crude and classless as well. As for censoring the title of this thread… as one post mentioned, s-l-u-t-t-y has no alternate meanings; sloppy does, and seconds does. Yes, as a phrase it can be offensive but I could come up with an alternate story if my daughter asked (I.E. it was hastily and sloppily put together with secondhand parts or it was put together quickly and crudely in only a matter of seconds) I'm guessing that the owners intent was different and intentionally provocative but I wouldn't have a problem telling my daughter what both words mean individually. That doesn't mean I like or approve of the name, quite the contrary. On the other hand there is no legitimate alternate definition for s-l-u-t-t-y that I could tell my daughter without lying. Something like "Easy Allis" would get a similar point across in a much less crass manner and it could be kid friendly. A double entendre can be witty and humorous. S-l-u-t-t-y Allis is none of those things, it's not even a double entendre. When I told my wife the name she quipped "Classy!" in the most sarcastic tone she could muster. She doesn’t know the brand of tractor, the family, or any of the other things, she simply knows the name is trashy. The appropriate for all age line can be a difficult line to see sometimes. I've been on the wrong side of it in the past. Registered page user justinmichaelbennett called me out on one of my past avatars. It was a little stick figure guy banging his head on his keyboard out of frustration. Justin couldn't figure out how to explain the simple little cartoon to his 4-year old. Justin correctly called me out and I had to decide what was appropriate. I decided that he was right and I was wrong and I changed my avatar (even though that avatar is still how I feel when responding to threads like this). They have a right to name their tractors those names if they want. The family may be great but the names are trashy. The tractors are great but the names tarnish them. They have the freedom of speech with the names, and we have the freedom of speech to say what we think about the names. I'm not judging the family, the people who drive the tractors, anyone. I am judging the names, and I think they are inappropriate. Thanks to everyone for the intelligent comments on both sides of this topic. So far I've heard a few people say they like the names, but I've yet to hear a valid defense of their appropriateness for children. If you like the name and think they are appropriate for all age please feel free to disagree with me, or if you think this shouldn't be a family friendly sport please also feel free to disagree with me. For those of you who don't like this topic… if you're smart enough to read, you should be smart enough to NOT read something that doesn't interest you. I don't read stories about Miley Cyrus because I don't care about her, and therefore I don't respond to comments in stories about her. Do us all a favor and don't respond if you don't care because it just makes you look simple. To John, Lindsey, and Rocco – please take some time and think about what your names say about you, how your names reflect on the motorsport as a whole, and what your names say to children. Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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sloppy
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Jake, I am the one that started this thread and I started this just to see if anyone else felt the way I did. I would like to appologize for taking up so much space here on your website. I never though this subject would get so much response.
I think we can all agree that from this thread we learned that there are people that are offended by the names and some people that see no problem with the names. What I find hard to believe is that the owners of these tractors have no repect at all for other peoples values or morals. If I ever put a name on a tractor that offended anybody, I would remove it as soon as I was aware that somebody was offended. I would not try to defend my tractors name in any way even if I thought it was fine. If it offended anyone then it is not suitable for public display. I guess I just have enough respect for others to not always think of myself. I think we can all agree that there are people offended by these tractor names and the Roses knew that people were offended with the name of the first tractor before the second tractor was built. I would hope that the Roses would now change the names and if they don't then we all know that they have zero respect for fellow pullers, promoters, fans, family, friends and themselves. |
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Hand
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Nice back-handed compliment. Sounds like if everyone was like you, we would live in utopia. |
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Thinking
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If you have such a problem with the names, and had to start this. Why not post your name? I would not choose them names personally, but if I was the Roses I would tell you to kiss it. |
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After reading all the comments people really need to grow up and move on . And as the owner of many Allis Chalmers tractors I'm not saying it make my tractors look bad infact all it has done has brought more attention to a great brand of tractors . I my self see nothing wrong with the names of these tractors in fact I think there great names and great running machines . I do have a problem with people name calling and involving john and Lindsay's family in this or talking bad about anyone's family . Come on people all you do when you start bashing like this and calling names only makes you as a person look bad if your so offended with names on a tractor maybe you shouldn't run your mouths the way you do because you look bad. This is a good site and it getting cluttered up with a bunch of bs on tractor names this is my opinion if you don't like it who cares thank you. Darren Zwick |
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Solution
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Just give the family the money they have invested in the tractor and I'm sure they will rename it anything you want. Otherwise, it's their tractor and can name it whatever they want. In America today, we live in fear that we might offend someone. That's just sad. |
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backwoods
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Jake, you're right on the money. One other really sad thing is the number of posts saying things like " it's their money they can do what they want." Seems to be an ever growing attitude in this declining country, if you have enough money, anything goes, no one else matters. Do people really talk to women & use terms like that ? We must be even more calloused than I thought. Very depressing. |
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Old Allis Puller
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Jake and backwoods,I agree with all that you have both said....20-30 years ago I didnt see the attitude among pullers that I'm seeing now days....Just 5 years I was a member of 2 pulling associations and there wasnt a name that the announcer couldnt say..Then a couple of pullers decided to change that....One was asked to change his pullers name and he did..Theres a million names for pulling tractors but a few have to push the envelope and see what they can get away with...Most seem to be degrading towards women...I can see the day coming when your tractors name will have to be approved by the association that you pull with.. |
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You guys and this- professional- stuff in pulling are funny, must have all Daddys money to waste! Its just good names, gawd who cares! |
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I'm glad this board is full of people with morals and ethics. Since this IS a family sport, we should probably ban ALL alcohol from these family events. We should also make sure no offensive music is played, and disallow offensive clothing worn by the spectators. I'm positive some of you "moral" people are far more screwed up than you lead on. If you don't like the names of the tractors, walk away (take your family with you) when they hook. Shield your children from the immoral names. Maybe some of you sheltered folk should just stay home at the farm. Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/18/2014 12:31AM by beavis612. |
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To clarify yesterdays post I understand and agree that the wife drives the tractor and is therefore subject to any criticism steming from that. I disagree with the notion that because she is affiliated with a tractor that sais slut on the side that it makes her a bad mother, or a bad bus driver. If she painted slut on the side of the bus then that is a whole different bag. I also understand we are in the public eye as pullers bla bla bla I just dont believe a line has been crossed. I can draw the pulling reference and to me it i no different than the high dollar hooker name that was mentioned or any of the other hooker names that are out there. Rick Fike was jokeing over the pa system last year about the saturday night hooker tractor at the mercer raceway because a woman was driveing it ( Rick is full pull productions and USA east) so i dont see how slutty is a problem. Then again my views are scewed because I always got the window with the best flavor on the bus, I am gonna put my helmet on cuz i think i hear the ice cream truck. |
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It may be banned but most its there and not even well hidden |
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Old Allis Puller
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Beavis,I have a question for you...Are you saying that any name should be allowed no matter how tasteless or vulgar it is..Is there absolutely no name that you would object to on a pulling tractor??After all this is the US and we have the right to free speech and we can say or do anything that we want no matter what...Right... As for alcohol at pulls several pulling associations have had to ban it for insurance reasons..You had pullers trying to pull drunk,people getting in to fights,people throwing beer on everyone,yelling obscenities....A few ruined it for everyone..The crowds started getting smaller because of this....Getting rid of alcohol solved lots of problems...So you want pulling fans to just stay at home on the farm because they believe in decency..What ever happened to the word RESPECT...I see less and less of it now days.. |
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sheltered
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Hate to tell you Beavis but most pulls we go to alcohol is banned & our trailer was searched & ice chest opened at the gate of more than 1 event last year. Just what we need more drunks operating tractors. If spectators are dressed inapropriately enough in public they are either thrown out or charged with indecent exposure under local statutes. Someone cited the "clothing optional " example already. Seriously I think maybe it's you who needs to get off the farm more. Like Jake,I'm a grown man with too many miles on him. They do not offend me personally. But if I'm showing my 78 year old mother around the pits & were to stumble upon these Hilljacks, then yes , I'd be embarrassed. Let me guess, you'd find the use of the N word on a tractor OK in public too ? Well, these 2 things are just as as derogatory & offensive towards women as that word is to a black person. As said earlier, address a woman by either in the off farm work place & it's out the door you go. As stated someone will have to outdo these 2 & if you read back to the top of this thread it sounds like what turns out to be this woman's father already has plans to do just that. Yes, people can indeed walk away. From the looks of not only Louisville, but most of the small venues we pull at, too many people are doing exactly that for whatever reason. Should we really encourage them to take their family & go elsewhere ? We live in this over regulated world today, mostly because a small percentage of people have no common sense & could care less about anybody but themselves. |
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Registered: 03/17/2009 Posts: 463 |
i think the names are fine slutty allis is not a woman its a tractor a "allis" chalmers so calling a tractor is slutty is bad? dumb and sloppy seconds can be thrown towards women or men honestly everyone thinks its about women. I once had a tractor called the :RED ROCKET" is that any better ? no one said a work or had a problem including promoters fans and fellow pullers I think this is all blown out of proportion. ive seen vehuicles called "in too deep" "erection" "stroked" all these could be taking differently but there not it is what it ia I think the tractor are fine the way they are |
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Sounds like some of you are ok with the names.. Maybe your daughters will be called these names that in school..... After ALL they will only be compared to tractors names.... |
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Registered: 02/21/2012 Posts: 797 |
Perhaps we should start a list of ALL of the names that we find offensive in pulling... That's a good idea, right? 
I find diesel truck classes being dominated by the Cummins engine to be offensive, can we ban that?  John Murray Two-time Pedal Pull World Champion Let's Go Pulling, covering the sport of pulling in Kentucky, Tennessee, and Alabama. Watch LGP on YouTube Like LGP on Facebook 
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It does not matter what we or you have seen. I've been and seen some things that would embarrass even the most hardened diesel PU crowd. It's that people are tired of seeing it and it's time that it's stopped. It's an embarrassment to every one involved. It's classless and those that are doing it are being put on notice. When you go to a pull you are on public property, and the public are tired of it. Your freedom to do as you please, stops at your property line, and in my neighbor hood, it stops at your front door. |
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Here a name high class hooker it a pickup and it has a picture of a woman on it or Lucy lady it got a woman on it too. I see nothing wrong With the names on these Allis tractor I don't even think they have picture on them. I bet the people that wrote these bad comments about these good people probably have never said a curse word In front of their kids or someone else's kids on accident .They are just names and if these names hurt you that bad I guess you need to throw away your TV ,the newspaper,magazines just stay home and live in a closet. Because I have seen a whole lot worse on the TV that are supposed to be for family. The thing is if you see things like this and it bothers you And your kids ask what it means explain it to them the best u can or tell them they are to young to know what it means then give them a hug and tell him you love them. These is my 2 cents |
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I am a 22 year old female college student. Probably not the typical reader of this board, but my father asked me to read just this one thread and tell him my opinion. I was completely floored , not only that any woman would degraded herself to that degree, be it to please some pathetic excuse of a husband, father or whatever, who seem to be doing it to settle some old grudge with other pullers, or any reason. But also by the number of people who twist & make every excuse in the world to justify it. Comparing "Red Rocket" to @#$% 2nds? You can not be serious. Although as I pointed out to Dad, either a lot of these" yeah, yeah, anything's o.k." posts are the same person or else they all had the same inept grammer teacher in school. Mrs. Rose, I have to tell you. I don't own much. An old car, a few CD's, & my clothes. I will give it all to you if you'd walk down the street with me ask any hundred, no make it a thousand people we meet what that wretched phrase means if a single one of them answered " old used parts". If you think you're getting roughed up on here I pray your kids friends don't get wind of this, because kids can be cruel & this social media can take stuff to extremes you likely haven't imagined. I don't go to many pulls anymore, but have so many good memories of going with Mom & Dad when younger. We just never ran into people like this where we pulled. Everybody liked to beat everybody else sure enough, but everybody had a great time. I would ask you something else ? Since you all seem to have such disdain for the people you pull with, why do it ? Is there any pleasure in loading up & going , knowing before you get there you despise the people you're going to be with ? I forget where they said you're from, don't matter. My great grandparent's lived out of state so far back in the hills Dad always joked the sun never shined there. Never ever do I remember them or any of the family or neighbors being so crass, so it's not a hill folk thing either. I really am not sure to be angry at the woman who drives this thing out in public or pity her. One thing I think is a safe bet. Woman of the house is not the most prestigous postion to hold in the Rose household. And numerous others if these posts are to be believed. |
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Fan/Puller
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Bottom line here - If you are a professional puller then be professional in every aspect of the sport. Including the name of your truck or tractor. |
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Kinda like license plates some are hard to figure out.Cant believe all the responses over a tractor name. .My friend now deceased called his tractor HappyHooker and we all thought it was appropriate and catchy.All you have to do is click on TV and watch Two&1/2 men at supper time and then you think a tractor name is off colored. |
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Just thinking, what do some of you think of the Cockshutt brand of tractor. |
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Own Several
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The Cockshutts were a well respected family in Canada that named a tractor after themselves...I own several and they were good tractors.. |
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I guess the point is that if your a fair or show organizer your trying to put people in the stands and if its not appropriate for all audiences then people won't show up or they will leave. Believe it or not there are still people in this world who have morals and won't attend if they hear of this. I personally believe in freedoms but if im trying to make money for my already poor county fair or area tractor pull by entertaining an audience im not going to allow distasteful entries. |
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Attention Larry, I was watching some old pulling videos the other night and I seen a 5800 Mod named the "Happy Hooker" pull at the Louisville. Seeing the name on that mod made me think of this thread!!! When they interviewed him after his hook I noticed that one of his hands was missing and he had a mechanical hook so then the name of the mod had a different meaning. If this is the same man you are referring too you can watch him on youtube , 1988 TNT NFMS Pt 1 . |
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Registered: 03/27/2008 Posts: 36 |
Explaining the names to my nine year old boy that I took out of school to go to Gordyville since he wanted to see "big" tractors was akward..... |
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You think triple x is a tasteless name? Ever think that its called that because it runs on ALCOHOL and has nothing to do with anything pornographic? |
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fsst
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It just depends where we want to go with pulling, make it a professional sport, or have idiots throw on stupid immature names...... stick to the local pulls in my opinion if your gonna have a name like Slutty Allis or Sloppy Seconds. |
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Registered: 11/26/2010 Posts: 61 |
Is this over yet? Im going back to my drink. By the way its a bloody mary! |
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Registered: 03/17/2009 Posts: 463 |
just like triple x the tractor has a different meaning then porn so does sloppy seconds!!! If you take it the wrong way its ur own dam fault hey blah blah blah get any shirts yet id like one |
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webster
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Well then guys at the top of the page you have the option of what threads to open or not open. Not that complicated really. Raining too hard to be outside so I looked up sloppy seconds online. Every site required you to click that you were an adult to even go further. I don't even want to be that graphic on here, but it mentioned several examples including "references to gang rape". Pretty nice huh? Only non sexual reference was a punk rock band from Europe. No mention of used tractor parts. |
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Old Allis Puller
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Precisely..The side shields on "Sloppy 2nds" show no used pulling parts on them....My wife was in school administration for years...If a kid showed up at school with a "Sloppy 2nds" t-shirt the parents would immediately be called to take the kid home or to bring another shirt...It got so bad that they finally had to ban all t-shirts with names on them...You had about 5% of the parents whom had to see just how far that they could push things and to see how much that their kids could get away with..You wouldnt believe what some of their t-shirts said...Then they had a fit because they paid taxes and their kid was being singled out because someone elses kid did it..No rules applied to them.. This is my last post on this topic...Its time to move on.. |
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just a question
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Through some of post I have came up with a question. What about triple x of keeners? The first time I seen it I thought it was tasteless. Nobody seems to have problem with it. Hell it even gets national tv time. |
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puller892
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Never really thought of that tractor name that way, I always figured it was named after the movie with Vin Diesel |
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Registered: 03/25/2010 Posts: 78 |
Morgans do everyone a favor and delete this topic its getting way to far out of control, all this is saying is take into consideration peoples feelings when naming your tractor, really is this what pulling is coming to, its called freedom of speech, i go on this web site every day to check out whats for sale and what people are talking about and this is by far the dumbest topic ever. My 2 cents is if you pay for it, work on it or have a meaning behind it name your tractor what ever you want Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/18/2014 03:09PM by lurch 66. |
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,526 |
To everyone who has posted "move on" or "dead horse" or anything similar: I've deleted your comments because they don't add anything of any value to the discussion. They actually don't add anything of any value to ANY discussion. And honestly, we don't care. (If you've really moved on like you've said, you won't be reading this anyway so you shouldn't care too much ),
Posting on ANY thread with those "move on" comments brings it back to the top of the page (which is 100% the opposite of what you say to want). So one can only assume that either:
I don't want to make assumptions about you so you can choose "A", "B" or "C" for yourself. You have the ability to choose to click on a topic or ignore it. (I don’t, I HAVE to read every topic that asks how to put a 466 in a 460) You, you can simply turn away! That's right; don't click on it if it doesn't interest you. Don't! I dare you not too! If you keep clicking on it but yet you want it to die you are being a huge hypocrite and fueling the fire. It's simple: DON'T read it! There are tons of new threads every day. Read one of those. Better yet, start a new thread and tell us what YOU think we should be talking about instead (maybe, just maybe you'll be right and your topic will be much more interesting and then everyone can really move on). This thread has a ridiculous number of responses (meaning it's very important to some people, quite a few by the looks of the IP addresses), yet this is only my second response on the thread. That's because I spoke my piece and I've moved on from discussing these two specific tractors. However, the topic of offensive names in general is a pretty interesting one to me, so I started a new thread speaking in more general terms. See how it works. There's also a reason why I almost never "close" a thread. I don't want to be a web-Nazi and tell people what they should or shouldn't be interested in. Telling the world that you're no longer interested is pretty self-centered. The truth is NOBODY really cares that you don't care anymore! The people that still care, will still care, and may still choose to post on the topic. It will die out in time... it's own time. So in short… if you've personally moved on, then please do so (but don't tell us about it). Jake "½ joking, ½ serious, and ½ sarcastic" Morgan (that's right, 150%) Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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Registered: 03/26/2008 Posts: 495 |
Jake, that was a good one!! JW |
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crimp
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These Bumpkins were bragging they had sponsors. Anybody know they are ? |
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well for years I have trying to think of a name for my tractor and after reading this thread I have finally got it. I am going to name it The Horny Deere and on the sides I am going to put a picture of my tractor chasing the Slutty Allis with a caption saying come on give me some of that Sloppy Seconds . Sorry if I have offended anyone , thought I would just bring some humor to this thread |
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Hey Bull! I see nothing wrong with that! It's an adult owned tractor...and as far as explaining what that means to a 6 yr old kid? How dumb are the parents?! you sway around it, or you say it means worn parts put into a 2nd tractor! Duh! I had a tractor called "She's Got Big Jugs" with side shields showing a blonde woman(depicting my wife) in a long dress and corsette with boobs over the top in an old western bar scene. People loved it! It was a spin-pff on nick names given to tractor parts plus a lil' scenery. No different than the advertisements she'd get in the mail for Victoria Secrets that our kids would see. |
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Har Har Har. Practice explaining it to your boss at work too. Oh let me guess, you don't have one. A job that is. Any word on those make believe sponcers ? I'd like to make sure if they exist they don't get any of my cash either. |
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This is the DUMBEST topic on this website since the website has been started. JMHO. Dumb mules that don't even know how to spell SPONSOR! You people are STUPID!!!!!!!!! |
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How is this still a topic? Have any of you heard the story about the Preachers Daughter? With everything in this world as it is today? Just look at the BIG picture!! Yes my spelling might be off.. But honestly get past your own thoughts and look at the truth of the way the world is now a days.. I would rather raise my daughter and son up knowing everything, but also teach them morals.. We all have different thoughts on that.. We all have different WAYS. This topic to me is so dumb.. |
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I've been reading this topic for over a week now. I'm a devout Christian and try to live my life according to the word of God. I pulled a light pro named "Romans 8:28" which was dark blue and had a Red Cross on the front. It had a Christian theme from front to back. It was my witness to fans. I can't tell you how many people would come up to me and talk about The Lord! We as humans are flawed and have many faults. Some are exposed to society and some are not. I personally don't like the names of these tractors. However, I'm not the ultimate judge of sin on this earth. I wish this thread would have more kindness, forgiveness and love for one another. What we really need to do is to pray for folks that may have a questionable name on their tractor, to have a change of heart. Think of the love and forgiveness that Jesus had for the woman at the well. Don't attack the Rose's, pray for them in love! I'm thankful for this site and opportunity to discuss these types of issues. I've worked in corporate America for several years and I will tell you that as a whole, the tractor pull community is the most moral, ethical group of folks I know!
God bless everyone and thanks to the Morgan's for this venue! |
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"But what do I tell my 5 year old daughter???" NOTHING YOU IDIOT! Shes 5...Nothing but a bunch a liberals who dont even realize they are liberals...kids dont need to know what they want to know...you know why? T
THEY ARE KIDS.!! They have no privledges |
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Team one
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Time to pull the plug on this one Jake, I'm sure I'm not alone when I say seeing this topic on the top of the page everyday is getting really old, I get what everyone is trying to say , if it hasn't been said by now it probably doesn't need to be just let it go people! |
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If you want it to stop stop posting and it will slowly make it way off the page. Your wanting it to stop but keep.posting. think about it. |
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Andrew, you certainly wouldn't want to show your daughter that you call people idiots? But that's ok, I will say a prayer for you my friend. |
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PROUD TO BE A CRISTIAN
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AMEN AND AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Alright SPONSOR : So who are they ? Just because I put a Penzoil sticker on my car doesn't mean Penzoil sponsors it. I think these people will say anything. Like taking 2nd place with a STOCK engine. I've seen that class,though not the 2 particular tractors in question. I'd estimate them in the 800 - 1000 horse area. So wow taking 2 nd place with a "stock" engine, that at it's highest stock application was maybe 300 hp was quite a feat ! |
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Crazy thread. but yeah, the names are "tacky". |
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Registered: 02/21/2012 Posts: 797 |
Thanks Lazarus. John Murray Two-time Pedal Pull World Champion Let's Go Pulling, covering the sport of pulling in Kentucky, Tennessee, and Alabama. Watch LGP on YouTube Like LGP on Facebook
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