01:42:12pm, Saturday, May 18, 2024
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Championship pulling series
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WI PULLER
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The website is up, looks like a good schedule of pulls. So lets all get ready for pulling season now. |
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jason schaar
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ya to bad the truck pull rules are all screwed up and are not like larry and his so called board members that nobody voted in said they would be,thought it was supposed to be for the pullers larry????all us truck guys got together in our class groups and decided on what rules we wanted as a class and you door knobs went and changed them all ya all for the pullers my a%^ |
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red boys
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Larry,
Still working on the farm rules? You get rid of farm? |
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WI PULLER
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there will be farmstock classes at the pulls. Call Larry and ask him how it is going to work, some pulls want stricter rules than others do. But there IS going to be farmstock at these events. hey Schaar, need some cheese to go with that whine?? :>) |
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Anonymous User
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I agree with Schaar on this one.These rules are a joke!Next time you drag everyone to a smoke filled room for a day to "hash out" the rules,at least let them know ahead of time you will more than likely be changing them anyways.FOR THE PULLERS?NTPA rules will generally be followed in street mod?What does that mean?What about the motor placement rule?Good luck.Just wondering,how many sponsors do you have now? |
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For The Pullers???
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LARRY WHAT HAPPENED ??? YOU REALLY GAVE US A SNOW JOB !!! OR ARE WE ALL HAVING "APRIL FOOLS" ON US ???
FOR >>> THE PULLERS??? THIESE RULE ARE NOT WHAT THE PULLERS WANTED !!! I"M GOING BRUSH PULLING !! |
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jason schaar
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i agree brush pullers forever and championship pulling series titts up LOL!!!!
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jason schaar
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no i dont want any cheese all WE want as truck pullers is to have the rules that WE decided on as class members and then no one would be pissed off about anything since its supposed to be all for the pullers as larry says!!!!!!
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Re: Championship pulling series
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WI PULLER
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WI PULLER Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > there will be farmstock classes at the pulls. > Call Larry and ask him how it is going to work, > some pulls want stricter rules than others do. > But there IS going to be farmstock at these > events. |
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observer
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As a fan of tractor pulling,why is it that the boys that cry the most get the rules made for their tractor.I feel they are a minority and I think if the organizers of these events should have fewer rules and let the pullers have fun.As a fan it makes it more enjoyable to let them run fast and hard, why dont you cry babies stay home with your Mother. |
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WI Truck Puller
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To Jason and Jamie. What rules are you unhappy with? I would just like to know if you have a valid point or just wanting to bitch about something. It's easy to bitch but hard to try to please everybody. I'm not saying I agree with all the rules but that's the way it goes. I guess if you don't like them start you own club. |
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wondering
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DOES ANYONE >>> TRUCK OR TRACTOR PULLER REMEMBER WHEN THERE WERE NO CLUBS IN NORTH WESTERN WI???
WAY BACK WHEN WESTERN WISCONSIN TRACTOR PULLERS DIED. ALL THIS FIGHTING ENDED ! WHEN INDIANHEAD TRACTOR PULLES STARTED IT WAS GOOD FOR A WHILE. THEN THE FIGHTING STARTED ! INDIANHEAD DIED!! SCV THE SAME>>> FIGHTING !! CHAMPIONSHIP PULLING >>>> HASN"T EVEN STATED AND THE FIGHTING STARTS!! GO BACK TO THE GOOD OLD DAYS >>> PULL AND HAVE FUN >>> FORGET THESE CLUBS >>> |
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Observer
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I agree,if there ever was a club that would have a chance to succeed it would have to be made up of non truck and tractor pullers.SCVand Championship Pullers won"t work because too many rules that apply to members only.If you want a club let them pull by themselves,that would be real excitting.Clubs will never work unless you are in 4H Have a nice summer I"m going fishing. |
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CANT WE ALL GET ALONG. RULLES NEVER MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY THATS WHY THEY ARE CALLED RULES. I THINK U GUYS NEED TO DO THINGS MORE LIKE WE DO IT HEAR IN MINNESOTA SET THE WEIGHT SET THE RPMS EITHER STOCK OR OPEN AND GO PULLING NO SPEED LIMITS. MAKE WEIGHT PULL AND BE HAPPY. AFTER ALL THE WINNINGS ISNT THAT GREAT ANY WAY SO HOW ABOUT DOING IT FOR FUN AND NOT MAKE IT ALL ABOUT U. IM SO SICK OF ALL THE ME ME ME PEOPLE OUT THERE. |
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to solve the problem and all the bithching, go back to the old ways and @#$%& all the new rules. the best time in truck pulling was when dave was in control, everyone had a good time. I will stand behind jason scharr |
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Anonymous User
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There are many valid points I have.Why change rules?It was voted on to have hydraulic steering in prostock and now you changed it.It was also agreed to have a 4150 flange in prostock.Now you can run any carb?We have spent alot of money on our trucks to fit rules.And now its April and they are different.No big deal I guess,just need to completely tear apart the steering on the truck and redo it all.Then build a new set of headers to worm around the steering garbage.As for street mod,the minnesota boys complained because my engine was too far forward years ago.So what is your rule on this?I don't like to whine about this but when it costs me money and time I become concerned.Star my own club?Why would I when there is a club sitting in our back yard already.I am sure if you would have come to the western meeting and said you wanted to take it over,Dan would have gladly handed it over.Now we have two clubs fighting for the few small town pulls and that benefits no one.I am sorry for offending your organization but I have my opinion and they are like @$$&^%$% and everyones got one.
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I told you so
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Larry, I told you so. Truck pullers and farm stockers wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah . Get rid of them, and lets have fun like we used to.. boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo |
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concerned puller
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well boys sounds like you got yourselves into a real fine mess now,you got everyone bitchin about your so called all for the pullers club now,and as far as forgetting about the truck puller ya larry should have forgotten about them because i heard right out of his mouth that he knows nothing about trucks or truck pulling and if thats the case then larry you should have kept you damn nose out of truck pulling instead of spouting your mouth off and lieing to all the pullers by telling them that this was all for them,all the differant classes got together and decided on rules for each class and were satisfied with those rules for their class and you just walked all over the pullers and stole their money for membership fees, as you promised them to their faces that the rules and your club/organization was all for them what a god damn lie larry.larry your a joke and so is the rest of you board to!!!!!! |
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orvald
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larry in goverment majority rules and us truck drivers are the majority thats why we all came to your meetings if what we wanted didnt mean any thing then why did you wast our time if your board members were gona do what they want oh thats why our goverment is f-up. majority rules! but oh well i aint wasting my money to comply with the rules you all came up with im gona have a blast with this!!!!!!! |
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schaar
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sounds to me like mr wi truck puller might be on the board,if so thats a conflict of interest,just another lie from larrys mouth again,THERE WILL BE ABSOLUTLY NO PULLERS ON MY BOARD ya bull you got three truck pullers sitting on there,your gullable larry if you believe they are not or never were!! |
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Whining
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Hey Scharr, why don't you just pull in improved where you belong and then there wouldn't be any problems, oh, thats right, you're completely stock. I wish Larry would get rid of the truck pullers if they are anything like you ya baby!! Well truck pullers, how is it, are you all going to let Scharr speak for the rest of you? Is this the attitude you want set forward on your behalf? It takes time to get these things running, and not all rules will please everyone, thats just a fact of life. Kinda funny, in tractor pulling its the stock guys that bich the most, and I guess it looks to be the same in truck pulling!! |
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i think the truck rules should be what they were for the past 10 years then there would be no problem. like dave said lets put the fun back in truck pulling, lets honor that! |
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schaar
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ya know what i was putting my truck together to pull in the improved stock class this year just in case you didnt know that but since the fuckin rules got changed from what we all agreed on as class members piss on it ill keep er stock as long as im pulling and you know what you wanna call people names on here why dont you put up you real name you @#$%& instead of being a coward and hiding it @#$%& LOSER!!!!! |
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Anonymous User
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Is "@#$%&" a bad word ? |
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Cam Berg
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Do not care for the rules myself, But im not going to stay home all summer. As for everybody complaining, GET OVER IT. I can almost bet you that you whiners will be out pullin like the rest of us with championship! Just hope that i am not included in the Minnesota Boys bunch that was bitchin. Dont want to start anything, just want to go pullin!!!!!! |
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Championship pulling series
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Anonymous User
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No it wasn't you Cam.Different class before you came along.Decided to pull prostock in western and street mod in championship.Just tired of all the complaining I get when I win so I want to make sure I follow the rules to the letter.See ya soon.
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WI Truck Puller
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Jamie, why don't you pull Central with the Street Mod Class? I rarely here any complaining over there. It's only $75 to join and it's pretty easy to "make" a little money. |
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Anonymous User
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Actually,I think I have my second truck sold too so I can probably quit complaining anyways.You never know though,I am always building something.I do know of a pair of crybabies in Central too though.You aren't one of them are you?LOL
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Farm Class Puller Rules?
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I'm looking for Larry's Pulling Series Farm Stock Rules..
Has anyone seen them??? What towns are having the Championship Series Pulls ? Point Pulls and regular Pulls??? |
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Re: Championship pulling series
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Jamie (gump), Cry babies? Whiners? Not a good idea to be throwing rocks when You live in a glass house. Far as I recall You tend to whine and cry about things/classes that You don't have anything to do with.
Now if you want to be a big fish in Your little mud puddle that's fine, but don't be ripping on other fish that swim in a much bigger pond than You. Maybe? You need to add more water to Your puddle or let it dry up. We have added more water to our pond this year. FYI; DODGIN BULLETS III and JUST RUTTIN' last years "NTPA'S GRAND NATIONAL CHAMP MOD 4X4" have signed up with us for 2009. Central has 9 hooks this year. How many does your group have? That PAY??? When are they??? Maybe it's time You put up or shut up.
We are getting bigger and better year by year and We know that worries others. So? Why fight it? Swim with some bigger fish or don't get wet!
Stan- Neverenuff Mod 4x4 CTPI Member |
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Anonymous User
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That was meant to be a joke Stan.Don't go jumpin off the deep end on me.Yeah there is a pair that complained about my truck but it was no big deal and I certainly wasn't trashin Central.I consider myself more of a tadpole when swimming with the Central sharks.As far as complaining about classes I am not even in??Unless your peeking in my garage windows,you have no idea what classes I may or may not pull in.Last year we pulled prostock and street mod,neither very successful but we did it.Anyways, good luck this year and maybe I'll see you on the track. |
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Good LORD
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Don't you door slammers have anything better to do than whine and cry on the internet? Get working on those noise makers so the are ready to pull, insted of wating for you to get to the track and listening to all those crappers revving in the pits.. Geez, get a life, if you spend this much time whining at the pulls, they are going to take 20 hours.. I want my own class too... stock, improved, improved improved, modstock street stock, supperstock, super super stock, to hot to street stock, wtf, grow some balls man up and pull, get off the track, and drink some beer... |
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Jamie (Gump); Hope to see Ya on the track. If You hook in My class and out pull Me, You can rest asured that I won't whine about it. You (as others) are always welcome to join. Membership is now $100 as deadline has pasted. 1st hook is in Eleva,WI. 5/30/09 7pm
A little word of advise about Your sense humor; Leave CTPI out of it please. We are very proud of who We are and have worked very hard to get where We are. (The following is not for You Jamie)
One final thought about so called stock/farm classes. If You load our tractor/truck on a trailer and haul it 50 miles +/- it's not stock/farm! You have done something to it that You feel is going to beat everyone else. The amount of money pullers are paying to cheat is unreal! You could build a super or Mod with used parts for about the same money. You want to fix it? Take the money away! Give them all an 8x10 pic with there distance as their prize. Everyone gets one and everyone wins! Yes charge them for the hook to the sled, it has to get paid for some how. Fact is; THERE IS "NO" SUCH THING AS STOCK/FARM IN PULLING!!!!! I have been in pulling since 1980 and the sport has takin' a big dive, because of to many classes,to many rules that can't be enforced,and to much fighting!!! Far as trucks You only need 5 classes. 2 wh, econo supers,econo mods, big supers,and Mods. With NO CLASS JUMPING AND 1 HOOK! Tractors need to limit to 2 hooks. Everyone gets tired of seeing Your tractor over and over again, they also get confused of what the hell class they are watching. I have heard it all. I have been a promotor and announcer at both. I feel for the people who try to put pulls on. They only have so much money to work with and to many classes that want BIG PAYOUTS! I'll get off my soap box now I have work to do on My own Toy. Happy Easter everyone!! Stan 
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Anonymous User
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I have also called Larry and left him a message and apologized to him for some of my remarks.I was out of line and out of anger,past judgement on his organization before it even got off the ground.We will step up to the next class where the truck will fit and get to work.Again,my apologies to Larry and the board.Jamie [Happy Easter!] |
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So if you haul a tractor to a pull you are not stock.... I have heard it all. Trucks may be one thing, they tend to travel at a higher rate of speed than a tractor, but you need a drive a tractor to the pull to be stock? Guess you cant have a hobby anymore and enjoy pulling more than just in your backyard. Well what would be better than heading home from a pull at midnight in a rain storm at twenty miles an hour.... |
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observer
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blank Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > So if you haul a tractor to a pull you are not > stock.... I have heard it all. Trucks may be one > thing, they tend to travel at a higher rate of > speed than a tractor, but you need a drive a > tractor to the pull to be stock? Guess you cant > have a hobby anymore and enjoy pulling more than > just in your backyard. Well what would be better > than heading home from a pull at midnight in a > rain storm at twenty miles an hour.... Not to mention if you live any distance away from a pull you have to start out 2 days ahead of time to make it one time for registration. |
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Future puller in se wi needs your help
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I have a MM G-1000 Vista Diesel I want to build into a puller. (can't find all the parts to restore it and my dad won't give me his 100 hp UB diesel) Can't decide between farm/hobby stock or turbo class. (love smoke). What's the cost difference? Should I just paint it yellow and park it next to my garden? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Any information on pulling in SE WI? All of the fairs and brush pulls have different rules, it could be very easy to set up for a class, go to the pull and realize I'm in the next class up and get stomped. Any thoughts? Thank you!! |
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Come on guys! You know how the statement I made was intended! Don't play dumb. The fact still remains there is "NO SUCH THING AS STOCK/FARM" in pulling. A question I have is; You don't pull chopper boxes and other equipment down the road with a tractor??
You must agree that a tractor that comes to your town from across the state to pull is not going to be stock! Everyone is entitled to have an hobby, just call it for what it is. It's "NOT" farm/stock. Cheaters and thieves have ruined it for the local pullers who just want to have a chance to compete with other locals. Cheaters and thieves can try to justify their crimes with all kinds of lies, but it still is a crime!  It's a sad day, when the back bone of this country (farmers/ former farmers/blue collar workers) have to take a good holesome family sport and turn it into a cut throat crime.
Like I wrote before; Take the money out of the stock/farm classes. Trucks and tractors! Make the sport a "GOOD FAMILY SPORT AGAIN." If You have to make money pulling by CHEATING, You don't need a puller! You need a JOB! 
Motorcycles,campers,jet skis,snowmoblies,and atvs don't make you money when you play with them; Why should your puller? FYI! I recieved less than $300.00 last year pulling my truck. I don't have to win to have a good time with My family and friends.
I believe that if You get caught "CHEATING". Criminal charges should be filed against you and you should be BANNED from the sport forever!!! So cut down My statements anyway You have to so You feel justified. But facts are facts. ?; IS IT OK FOR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS TO USE DRUGS TO MAKE THEMSELFS BETTER PERFORMERS?? WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY GET THE IDEAS FROM?? THINK ABOUT IT!! Stan Ps: How come You all can't use Your name? Afraid of what Your family/ friends might think of YOU?? SAD! VERY SAD!!
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CPS Schedule
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Can any of you tell me what is what on the CPS schedule. If CPS is listed in the trucks column, I am assuming all truck classes are pulling. If CPS is in the CPS column on the schedule, does that mean all trucks and tractors are pulling? Also, if there is a specific comment and CPS is not listed, does that mean only those classes listed are pulling? I would hate to assume, you know what that means, I would also hate to drive to a pull and find out I just wasn't reading the schedule right. |
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WI pullin
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If it says cps in the "cps" column it is a cps run pull featuring trucks and tractors, as far as I know its all the classes, but, a phone call would be cheap inurance to save you some gas. If the cps appears in the tractor column, that event is a full "cps" tractor only pull, , the same goes for the truck column. If it says "points" for a event under one column or the other, then that means that pull promoter payed a fee to cps to qualify some classes at their pull to count toward the cps points race. Cps does not run those events, they just keep record for their members points. I hope I helped you understand it a lil better. If you're not sure, just make a quick phone call. Now, lets all get ready to drink some beer, and maybe even pull a tractor or two.! |
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CPS Schedule
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THanks for the reply, you and I understand it the same way.
I have put in several emails and unreturned phone calls, so I resorted to posting a comment. The season is right around the corner, can't wait to have some fun! |
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wondering
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HEY !! WHY ??? CAN'T C.P.S PUT A SCHEDULE ON HERE LIKE RED CEDAR DID????
THEN WE WOULD KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON !!! THE SCHEDULE IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND !! I THINK ?? |
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Red man
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So who is the board members of larrys club. I was to busy working to actually make it. |
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I heard ??
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Truck Pullers that don't pull anymore. Brad & Glen.
But this club is not "FOR THE PULLERS" as everyone believed. The pullers got together at bowling alley and put together rules they wanted for their classes Tractors & Trucks! But this "BORAD" made their own rules and FORGOT the PULLERS who it is SUPPOSED to be for.. Larry had everyone REVVED UP !! for his New Club.. All I know is we were all led to believe that. Now it's Just another Club with THEIR rules!! BACK TO BRUSH PULLING FOR ME !!! FORGET CLUBS AND LARRY !! NO TRACTORS OR TRUCKS>>> NO SHOW >>> for Larry ! |
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I heard ??
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I heard ?? Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Truck Pullers that don't pull anymore. Brad & > Glen. > But this club is not "FOR THE PULLERS" as > everyone believed. The pullers got together at > bowling alley and put together rules they wanted > for their classes Tractors & Trucks! > But this "BOARD" made their own rules and > FORGOT the PULLERS who it is SUPPOSED to be for.. > Larry had everyone REVVED UP !! for his New > Club.. All I know is we were all led to believe > that. Now it's Just another Club with THEIR > rules!! > > BACK TO BRUSH PULLING FOR ME !!! FORGET CLUBS > AND LARRY !! > NO TRACTORS OR TRUCKS>>> NO SHOW >>> for Larry ! |
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wondering
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Has anyone heard >>> What kind of payback C.P.S. is having?
Also where is the first C.P.S. Pull? Points Pull or just their pull? Really don't understand the schedule on web page. Also>>> Can I pull once without Safefy Equipment.?? |
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if you didnt like championship then dont pull with them,there shows will suck and larry wont be back next year.there are pulls out there that are not run by clubs,stanley is this weekend,colfax has a few pulls also,along with central.just the fact that you only get half the payout unless you pay the 75.00 membership is wrong,larry must be looking for some extra cash in his pocket,i would be willing to bet that he comes out better at the end of the year than any of you pullers do.if you think joining there club and taking there money is a good idea,all you are doing is taking money from your fellow pullers and putting money in larrys pocket.if the is another pull in the area that you can go to just go to taht one instead. there is also one in almena coming up.so far larrys pulls have not been that great,roberts only had about 2 trucks in each class,now thats fun,NOT. |
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Wheres Schaar??
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Whining
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Jason, where did you go bud?? Certainly as mad as you are you couldn't have calmed down yet? You went kinda quiet all the sudden, come on, keep rallying your troops!! |
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Re: Wheres Schaar??
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Farm Class Puller Rules?
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STILL LOOKING FOR CLASSES FOR FARM .
ANY RULES THAT WILL BE IN 2009 SEASON FOR FARM. WHAT TOWNS ARE HAVING SCV OR LARRY'S PULLING CLUB.. BY THE WAY I DO >>>> DRIVE MY FARM TRACTOR TO THE PULLS .. |
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Re: Wheres Schaar??
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blank
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You must not like your tires........................
Call larry or email him... it was said before. I guess different pulls have different rules |
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Farm/stock
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farmer's son
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I am a high school kid who has been out pulling a few times. I pull dad's tractors for fun. We live in a location where the closest pull is 45 minutes away (driving our fastest tractor in road gear). As to the remark about a hauled tractor not being stock I would call it assanine. As for for no tractor being stock, he is right. I know many farmers whose tractors that pull those chopper boxes down the road are more hopped up than most pulling tractors. I also know some folks where thier pulling tractor is the most stock machine on the farm. Let's face it. Any puller or farmer is going to spiff up his tractor for a pull, whether it be every weekend or just one close pull for the summer. He will check and recheck every aspect of a tractor to see that he has the best chance of doing as good as he can do. Most of the tractors getting pulled are also old enough that there are parts "not from the factory". If a farmer can get a bigger turbo for cheaper than a stock turbo when his goes out, he probably will. The fact is there isn't a farmstock tractor. this is only my opinion. I've just got started in pulling and would like to continue. If all these clubs in NW WI turn out to be successful, good we all have a place to pull. but if these clubs and organizations kill the sport with their rules, thats what happens. I enjoy tractor pulling and hope it continues well through my lifetime. I've listed my email if any one would like to discus this on another medium. lonelylineman74@hotmail.com |
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potential puller
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Just give each and everyone of yas a ribbon and everyone will be happy. Pulling trucks and tractors is a sport that takes money to do with little in return. If one brings a 4020 with 9000 hrs that is stock to a pull and the neighbor brings a 4020 with a fresh motor and new pump all stock and oh and by the way new paint. And beats the old one. IS he cheating?? I bet some people would be upset and think so. You need to have a well tuned tractor in very good shape. The perfect road worn tires, the weights hung right, etc to win a pull. The people that think they can bring junk to a pull and place need to wake up. It don't work that way. More fresh good stuff, the better you will do. SPEND SPEND SPEND. If you want to run in 10th place bring a old 1066 down breathing so bad you can't see the side of the tractor. Or spend some money on it and make it place with the top tractors. |
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farmer's son
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you hit it right on the button. |
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yup
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I think the speed limit takes care of it all ! |
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farmer's son
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It seemed to me there weren't nearly as many problems before, when there wasn't a speed limit. I could very well be wrong, but that's how I've seen it come about. Frankly, I don't like speed limits and would rather pull without them. As much as this sport is for the pullers, without the fans, what is the point? In my opinion, I like to see tractors (that I could take home and use) go fast and makes lots of smoke. The mods are fun too but I like the idea of getting as much as you can out of a stock tractor. If we're limiting tractors too much, it just gets boring for the spectators and the pullers. I once pulled a JD 730 diesel at 2 mph. I was bored to death. Although, the crowd was kind of amazed to see what the old junker could do. No one says how slow you can go without a speed limit. Why not let the guys with fresh tractors see what they got? Where's the harm? |
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Re: Farm/stock
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Anonymous User
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The biggest argument at any tractor pull is "stock tractor". |
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Re: Farm/stock
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Anonymous User
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that is why the name needs to be changed to "farm legal" that way there is no confusion about what was stock lol |
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Re: Farm/stock
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Anonymous User
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The only problem here is trying to discern what is "farm legal". I personally don't see anything wrong with working with what you have, but that means keeping STOCK rpm, and cubic inches (unless the only available parts are overbore kits) and things like working hydraulics and pto.
What I don't like seeing is tractors that were originally 2500# heavier than they were stock pulling in a lighter class; ie a 100hp tractor pulling in a class that normally has 70hp tractors is just plain selfish. It's also pretty obvious that something isn't right when the majority of the tractors in a class are going 5mph and snuffing, while two or three come ripping through at 8-10mph and spin out... If that's not an indicator that those two or three tractors don't belong in that class, then I don't know what is. Take it or leave it, everyone needs a place to start, and if some poor kid brings his fresh tractor with some pump tweaks to a pull he sure as heck isn't going to be as competitive as some of you seem to think he will. Go through the farm stock classes and ask the top five tractors if they "simply" have a fresh engine and some tuning; they'll probably all laugh at you. That's why I like the idea of an "improved" farm class for those who have spent some money and know what they're doing to have a place to play while those who are still learning also have a place to play. Because we have to face the fact that there aren't that many new pullers (at least around here) and without people getting into the sport it WILL die. |
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