8600 Ford January 02, 2016 03:11AM
I'm looking for some info on putting a Genesis or 7.8 out of a new Holland combine in a 8600 I did a search but did find much. I heard you have to leave out a few bolts that bolt it to the transmission? If that's true would you be scared of it being a weak spot. Thanks for any help.
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Re: 8600 Ford January 02, 2016 09:20AM
Use the Genesis NOT the 7.8
With the right oil pickup tube you can even put the 401 oil pan on it.
Then you can use all the factory bolts much easier.
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Re: 8600 Ford January 02, 2016 10:55AM
Thanks for the help could you guide me in the right direction on building the genesis to pull 12 mph classes. Who to get a cam from,where to get fire rings,witch injectors, a pump or sims pump. And what would be a good turbo. I don't have to have first class stuff. Thanks
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Re: 8600 Ford January 02, 2016 12:52PM
Can = Riverside
Other Engine Parts = Riverside
Injectors = Wimer
Injection pump = Wimer or Hart
Turbo = Hart or Wimer
Take your time and build it right the first time, cause if you don't it will cost you more in the end.
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Re: 8600 Ford January 02, 2016 03:24PM
I have a fresh Genesis going together that I will sell hat to pan. Would be ideal for that class, it's set up with a big Simms pump also. If you're interested post back here, Thanks.
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Re: 8600 Ford January 02, 2016 10:43PM
Well let me figure out what engine I have. My dad juncked a New Holland combine several years ago but saved the motor out of it I always thought it was the genesis, but was told it could be a 474 instead. How do I tell witch motor I have? thanks
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Re: 8600 Ford January 02, 2016 11:23PM
Post a picture of it the answers will follow
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Re: 8600 Ford January 03, 2016 04:13AM
Should be a data plate on the valve cover that will tell you what you need to know.
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Re: 8600 Ford January 10, 2016 09:11AM
Square looking valve cover Genesis.
Valve cover looks like 401 is 7.8
What age was the combine? Would have to be around 1994 or later for be Genesis

Vogel had a very good grind for that.

You DON"T need fire rings. Use head gasket for an 8970
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Re: 8600 Ford January 10, 2016 02:14PM
New Holland used the Gensis motor in the TR89 and TR99 and the CR920 and CR940.
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Re: 8600 Ford January 11, 2016 04:12PM
So did the later series tr86 and 96 not run a genisis? The number on the side of the block is E5HN6015AE.
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Re: 8600 Ford January 11, 2016 11:01PM
That's a 474 for sure. Got one just like it at home, same part number on the block
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Re: 8600 Ford January 12, 2016 12:29PM
Correct... The TR86 and TR96 is the truck motor. If you use a CR920 or CR940 or even the TM190 and TM175, thats a new generation block. Its a brand new casting, so the "mold" has tighter tolerences as since its new. How you can tell if its a newer block on the one side there is a spot where you can pin the crank.
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Re: 8600 Ford January 12, 2016 04:06PM
Thanks guys for the help, guess I need to look for another engine. Can I use the head off the 7.8 on my 401 block until I find a genisis? Or any other parts to get little more this year? Thanks again for all the help you have given me. It is greatly appreciated!
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