04:21:07am, Saturday, May 18, 2024
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Team Chizek dominated!
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stoked!
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way to go team Chizek! Was there ever any doubt they would kick ass? Other pullers should just stay home or be happy with 3rd place as the new 1st for the rest of the class. Chizek and his team are gonna be in the history books, far ahead of those old pullers like Dean, Engler, Banter. Let's put them in the hall of fame already with their 2016 championships. we should just rename ntpa and ppl to Chizek pulling league! Go Team Chizek! |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Team Chizek
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We LOVE to Pat are self on the Back. If it wasn't for my drives and engine guys I couldn't get it done. The old Just BlowN Smoke tractor never won crap. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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1turboluver
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That's because it competed in a very competitive class. How many ULSS @ BG every year??? How many 10-Pros @ BG every year???? |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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DD
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All classes are truthfully. I'd like to see Mike drive his own stuff then see the outcome. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Team one
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I can see why everybody dislikes them , but there is no doubt that the tractors are very impressive, Terry and Josh are very talented builders/drivers , Brian is also a skillful driver, and Mike well Mike is pretty good at writing checks, I'll give credit where credit is due. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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DD
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Never said I didn't like them. Just want to see him drive again. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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ihhotfarm
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I was a fan of ulss at one time. Blackburn tractors run good. Its just not fun to watch any more. I mean everyone knows they are going to win. I feel bad for the other guys that don't have a guy like Chizek writing checks out of an unlimited bank account. Just my opinion. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Tired of it
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I wish he'd give his drivers a raise,lol |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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DD
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Won't be long they will split V8 and Inline motors just like alkay /Smokers |
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V-8 that they are running are illegal from the get go.
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Snickers
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Read the rule books ppl, the V-8 that are being ran in the case-IH is illegal in the first place. It ONLY came in true 4x4 tractors. These organizations don't have balls to stop things before they are out of hand |
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Re: V-8 that they are running are illegal from the get go.
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Team one
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They do use 903 cummins blocks, but they weren't the first ones, Kevin Campbell and Patrice Beaudry were also using them years before so you can't blame them Terry for pioneering the grey area of the 903s being used in SSO even though he had a hand in building Kevin's and possibly Beaudry's, let's not forget about the two that run in PPL , how does it apply to their rule book? |
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Re: V-8 that they are running are illegal from the get go.
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Snickers
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Your right, it isn't their fault. It is the organizations that ever allowed them to be where they r today. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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CBrown97
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Yes Hirt runs V8s in the Pro Pulling League. If they were really illegal the association wouldnt let them run. They dont win all the time,theyve just made everybody else jealous because they figured out how to make what they have work under the rules. The distance you wish to achieve is measured by the depth of your wallet can be inserted here |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Team one
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I have no problem with the chizek team tractors, I think the v 8 tractors are awesome pieces of engineering and they deserve to win as much as they do! |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Gene Kendrall
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That's what makes it so boring , knowing the out come before the finish , such a waste of time |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Get over it
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Before them it was Larry Roberts
Before Larry it was Silver Bullit. Before him it was Conner with the same tractor. Before him it was the king of smoke. Before him it was Rob Russel. Be happy that there will be a challenger to them sometime. Hold on for the ride. Man up and get out the check book and try him out. They may like the challenge. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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2wd
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they were all 2wd tractors |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 04/04/2008 Posts: 633 |
Did anyone notice that the Galot II tractor won 6 events last year?
S'no Farmer |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Yep
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Those tractors run. Bent and John got them running strong. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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What if ??
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For fun lets just say Terry had a different v8 to work with say the 3208 or the Perkins which without a doubt are legal, what are everyone's thoughts? assuming these engines would be built to 650 ci , over head cams, the custom heads, the same turbo set ups they are currently using would the outcome really be any different? Personally I don't think so, the 903 may be a stronger block but I think the other engines are capable in the right hands, they were having plenty of success with the inline engines so in my opinion it has more to do with the builder. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Jet Skies
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No doubt Terry can make one run,but,let's take away chizek's money,that would change things. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Oh10
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Seriously I doubt Terry Blackburn's check book is lacking. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Thinking out Loud
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To make a 903 650 cubes , you add material , to make a 466 650 cubes you take away material. That is why you can run a 903 harder and it is more dependable. A 903 was never in a 2wd farm tractor making it illegal. But Terri and Chizek was not the first to it. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Not illegal in Open Super Stock class, the class allows articulate tractor engines. Someone can take a Cummins 855, IH V800, Cat 3406 or 3408 and run if they wanted...but complaining is easier. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 07/22/2013 Posts: 80 |
The big inlines and 3408 would bet be nearly as effective nor rpm friendly with the long stoke they have, with the 903 you can leave the stroke and drop bore from 5.5 to around 4.65" and get under 650 for a 855 without destroking bore would only be 4.15" dropping from 5.5. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Dang
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NO tractors came with log scider rear ends ether so who cares or gives a crap Lustic was the man to beat for years now its Chizecs turn |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Jim P.
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Do you own a rule book? Have you ever read it? You might want to try it sometime because you could learn a few things. It 100% LEGAL. I think its a dumb rule but its still LEGAL!!!!!!!!! Maybe you should change your screen name to "NOT Thinking At All" |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Nathan Binder
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I would love to own a tractor built by Brent Long or Terry Blackbourn! They are the best. Great guys too. Been great to the sport of alcohol tractor pulling. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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puller ready to quit because of cost
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They way I see it is sure Chizeks stuff is top of the line. But what is happening is it all about money. NTPA/PPl need to start imposing some kind of limits on this class and the light super class. They will start to die quickly when you have to spend 250,000.00 to even come close to competing it will kill this sport fast. The v8's should have been outlawed long ago just like they did in the light class. Plus there needs to be boost limits imposed on these 2 classes it will even the field and save a lot of pullers from quiting. Plus make a better show for the fans who are really what this is all about. I suggest waste gates set at 100lbs . No turbo size restrictions just a preset wastegate handed out by the NTPA/PPL . Everyone pays a one time fee of say 1000.00 to buy a wastegate. All tractors are setup to take same wategate. At every pull there is a drawing to see what wastegate you will get for that day. It may sound foolish but INDY cars do this to keep it even . Boost is what is winning these pulls certain brands can take more than others. At a 100lbs we wont need aftermarket blocks or fancy high dollar turbos. I am betting you will see these classes grow if this rule was in place. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 06/30/2008 Posts: 186 |
Here's an interesting scenario, or just being goofy, but have PPL and NTPA make the V-8s illegal. Chizek and Hirt now both have top notch V-8s to run. I'd like to see them mount them side-by-side on a modified and run them. Now that would be fun to watch; V-8 ag engine versus automotive. I'd pay for that show...  =
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 04/04/2008 Posts: 1,523 |
in that scenario imagine the two motors at 903 cubic inch,wow factor for sure.think they'de seriously be competitive ?? |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Sure enough
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Outlaws figured out limits and cost restrictions a long time ago and look they have done I the last 10 years. This is not Nascar when it comes to payouts, yet they have rules to even up competition. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 10/08/2008 Posts: 70 |
Allis Chalmers 6120T, inline 6, 731 cu came stock in a 8550 , If you will donate a few hundred thousand Dan? I will call Terry and have him get working on a head! |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 05/15/2010 Posts: 144 |
Smuggler....
Would love to put up the $200K....With that amount Terry or Bamber can build the head....You and I will take care of building the rest, with plenty of money to spare.... Was not that familiar with the Allis 6120 engine that you speak of, so I did a little digging (see attached pic)...Sounds like the Allis 6138 utilized the same block and displaced 844 ci....Not sure if the 6120 would be the best candidate or not, but looks plenty sturdy without knowing the dimensions... This would certainly be a step in the right direction. Dan Dunham Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/16/2016 03:41PM by Dan - PullingDepot. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 04/04/2008 Posts: 1,523 |
isn't that the motor allis chalmers put in a verey few semi trucks,a ac dealer by me had one at one time ... |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 07/22/2013 Posts: 80 |
Yes, a few of them made their way into trucks, they had water pump issues and nor rooms my survived. I believe it was the 25000 series in the trucks. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 04/13/2014 Posts: 405 |
I was under the understanding that they would break cranks when they got turned up and pulled hard in semi trucks. Any truth to this? |
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Registered: 08/28/2014 Posts: 179 |
Very true that was one of the weak points in the engine |
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Registered: 04/13/2014 Posts: 405 |
Thanks! |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 04/04/2008 Posts: 633 |
I worked at a power plant for many years and they had a backup fire pump engine that was an A-C. I'm not sure anymore as it's been a long time but as I remember it was a very large CI and it ran on gas. It had two spark plugs per cylinder. We would have to go out and run it about once a month for 1/2 hour,I don't think it was ever used for it's intended purpose. I always liked running it because when you would crank it up under load the manifold would glow red. I think in the early 80s they replaced it with a diesel engine.
S'no Farmer |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 04/13/2014 Posts: 405 |
Sounds pretty cool! |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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cat puller
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correct me if im wrong but isn't there a 3208 in a light supper in outlaws. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 05/15/2010 Posts: 144 |
You are correct about a 3208 Cat in the LSS class in Outlaws....We originally built that tractor back in 1999 / 2000....Currently, Scott Whitworth owns it, located near Unionville, MO. Dan Dunham |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Pionter outer
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Yes and if ever become dominate they will outlaw him. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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cat puller
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you saying outlaws will let you run till you win then ban a tractor. sounds like poltics. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Pionter outer
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They already tried to keep it out of the ulss class. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 05/15/2010 Posts: 144 |
A few things going on here....And a few things that are not
1. As a couple people have stated, it is definitely legal to pull a 903 or any other motor used in an articulated tractor and/or (I believe) Ag type vehicle etc. 2. Until someone builds an over cubed inline 6 with the heavier block and brings it down to 650, utilizing the best 4 charger setup and dual OHC head, the V-8ś will continue to dominate! Brent Long motors are only safe to about 598 CI or slightly over.....BL motors and most inline 6ś are being out cubed by approx. 50 CI...Are being out air flowed because of the small bores (thus smaller valves) and out boosted, because the 466 blocks are stretched to the limits. Why do you think Terry, Jeff, Campbell / Jones are running them! It is like comparing Apples to Oranges! It is pure physics! If Terry or similar built an inline 6 using the larger block and Technology that was used with the 903 Cummins, the Big Inline 6 would be bad to the bone and would be at least as strong as the 903 and then some! 3. When considering Point #2 from above, this is the reason that NTPA, PPL & Outlaws (to a certain extent) jumped the gun by eliminating V-8ś in the LSS Class...Why? Because, unlike USS, in LSS both inline 6 & V-8 blocks can reach the max cubic inch...Both types of blocks are similar in strength, inline 6ś probably having the stronger of the 2 which allows the inline 6 to run more boost than a V-8....Please remember, in LSS class, only 2WD tractor engines can be used......Considering the facts, in LSS you would be comparing Apples to Apples, thus it would be very tight competition, because there is really no advantage one way or the other. Dan Dunham |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,526 |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Nope
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V-8 would still have the edge in light super. Valve area = horsepower in line six comes up 2 short every time. This is why they outlawed them in lss. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Kip1456
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I'm just waiting for someone to take the v12 from the big challenger tractor and decube it and see how many rpm's it'll stand. |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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to answer the one Question from above, Yes, The Ac,s that was put into over the road trucks did have issues when guys would lug them,
But I do have a question about the Chizek tractors, Each time I see them run after they have stopped at the end Why Does the Driver keep pumping the Throttle lever back and forth real quick,. Thank for the Broad, |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Registered: 04/04/2008 Posts: 1,523 |
I would say that cools the motor down |
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Re: Team Chizek dominated!
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Ya
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To try and keep it running. Sometimes they like to quit at the end of a run. |
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last year
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jim bob
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Did the lady that chizek ran over her truck & left it last year ever get her truck pd for ? If it had been one of the small players they would never be asked back. |
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Re: last year
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sure
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I'm sure her insurance covered it and then went after chizeks insurance company to reimburse them. Unfortunately I'm sure she was still out whatever the deductible was. |
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