03:24:27am, Sunday, May 05, 2024
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Any talk of 8500 466 limited pro. |
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osage outlaw
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They added it for promoters that had tractors in there area. |
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Bradley
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What other llss groups allow aftermarket heads? |
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Registered: 02/19/2009 Posts: 526 |
What is the reasons why they are going with recast heads in the llss class? |
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Osage outlaw
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The guys with 5.9 cummins wanted to add it for more reliability. |
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Interested
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East Central Iowa allows recast heads.in the LLSS. |
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Rebbeca
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Does this mean we can run an Indy Aluminum head ??? |
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llss puller in mo
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any written rules on this? i feel like this could get outta hand very quickly |
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Lewis
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Everyone might as well allow any engine any head any turbo just run what you brung its a real joke to hear all of these different rules from grown men .wanting recast heads is almost as good as someone saying a diesel needs 200 more HP than a alcohol to be able to compete I'm sure some Idiot will bring that up next why not allow the Indy heads .I no why not a couple wanted to make rules for there selfs its been boring on here for the last week all of us die hard llss pullers let them no how you feal and then lets go AMISH and shun them for shaming the class in such a way thanks Osage Outlaw nothing like this could ever get outta hand on here |
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Bradley
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MSTPA llss is a truck motor class anyway. All 5.9 Cummings and I believe two IH 360. I think the recast head addition was a bad choice. Might as well drop the limited and call it lss. |
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Registered: 02/19/2009 Posts: 526 |
If this is best for there club and class so be it, it's there choice. It doesn't have to be like everyone else. How many are going to run with them . Just if your rules don't allow it, any they pull with your club . Better have good tech people to check |
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Bradley
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To me, this seriously hampers a class within an organization that struggles with numbers. Just my thought. |
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Registered: 02/19/2009 Posts: 526 |
I think the reasons why some clubs struggle with numbers is there's to many tractor classes. With some of the llss is people don't want to mess with making the tractor lite enough, easier to build for heavy classes |
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llss puller in mo
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well i would think you would wanna build a tractor thats compatible with pulling with multiple groups in your area and accepting recast heads doesnt make sense
bc if they build a recast head and slap it on they are limiting to pulling with either themselves or mid mo, and going up against mid mo its an open class so they would have to run against 600 cubic inch motors which not many show up from mo state to pull with mid mo anyway (greene and dobbs mostly) but no one from mo state with the new head would be able to pull xcaliber, i dont believe iamo accepts the heads either as a non regular of mo state and looking in, that doesnt excite me to jump over and play in their sandbox knowing they have that rule over any other organization, so i dont understand the reasoning behind it, i dont see this rule bringing in more tractors and increasing their show numbers i havent heard of any heads being unreliable but im not familiar with the 5.9 head too well either, so maybe there is an issue?? but running recast is only a performance enhancer so again not understanding the reasoning as a whole on this rule |
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micky
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Does Mid-Mo allow recast heads? What all happened at Mid-Mo's rule meeting with all the classes? |
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hey micky
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its an open class so i dont see how they couldnt run them may be a grey area tho
no changes from what ive heard but also heard the board may be making some changes |
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Rewind
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What about the recast heads are we running them or not |
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osage outlaw
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This is what passed at rule meeting. You can run recast cast iron heads in the llss class. No indy heads |
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out classed
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it's a run what you can and there is no limits |
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Jim bob
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Why in the hell would you allow recast heads for the Cummins powered llss. Far more places you can not pull with one. Better yet, who would want to come play with these guys. Sounds like this group is hurting on numbers anyway. Board better rethink this one if possible. What do some of you other groups think about this? |
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To jim bob
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Guess you should have gone to the meeting. |
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Jim bob
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Well Mr to Jim bob, why don't you fill us in since you seem to know. |
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You need understand MSTPA doesn't care about putting themselves on a island after all they have a 640 class that doesn't fit with anybody else. Just to make sure nobody else can pull that class they throw in the no Puller 2000's (Roberts Rule) |
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Really
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Not sure on that rule. Outlaws was first to have the 4.1 / 640 limited pro stock class because of the Pro stock class getting out of hand on cost. That was 10 years ago on original rules but HP Pullers have been allowed for at least 5 years. |
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Pro Field 640 ci 3in turbo 300 rpm not limited pro 4.1 should have clarified |
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Registered: 05/24/2013 Posts: 380 |
We have many times come down and enjoyed running the profield class in mstpa with our 466's of which they have a rule set also to allow that combination to run legally in the class. So maybe it's not quite the island you think? |
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