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Llss puller questions.
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Registered: 07/24/2017 Posts: 155 |
Who is a llss puller? In midsouth where I will be the majority pull alkys. But there is a few diesels still. Alky seems to be the top dog of the class here. Which can make more HP? Also I've been told that the only way a llss really tears up is if you just have bad luck. Is that true? If not what tears up the most or most common? Will be pullin an Ih. |
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Registered: 06/03/2008 Posts: 44 |
Hey Lewis, Are you able to sypher what Bama is asking because I have no idea.
By the way, your grammar and sentence structure has greatly improved. keep up the posts. Wayne S. |
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Registered: 02/21/2012 Posts: 797 |
Wayne, I'll decipher what Bama was asking. (Not that you asked me, but I'll make things a little easier to read for those who might be interested in helping out our friend.) 1. Who is a Light Limited Super Stock puller? 2. Does alcohol or diesel fuel make more horsepower? 3. Is it true that the only way that a Light Limited Super Stock really tears up is if you just have bad luck? 4. What tears up most commonly? John Murray Two-time Pedal Pull World Champion Let's Go Pulling, covering the sport of pulling in Kentucky, Tennessee, and Alabama. Watch LGP on YouTube Like LGP on Facebook 
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Registered: 07/24/2017 Posts: 155 |
I didn't think it was that hard to read |
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LSS Puller
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1. Are you wanting like a list, or were you just asking for input from a llss puller? If looking for a list, just got to Midsouth's current points standings.
2. Both diesel and alcohol can make the neccessary horsepower. But, there is a reason 80% of them are alcohol. 3. Define bad luck. While I believe you can get a lot of life out of an alky llss, there is always the threat of charger, bearing, valve train, and compression issues. 4. My guess would be turbos. If you are really wanting to jump into pulling and on a limited budget, I highly reccomend buying one vs building. Just my .02 |
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Registered: 02/19/2009 Posts: 526 |
Biggest thing is go have fun, buy one or build one you will still spend money . If you do your own work , run what's best for you. |
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Registered: 07/24/2017 Posts: 155 |
Wanting info from a llss puller. That was just some questions I had. Im looking at one right now that's diesel but if later on I wanted to convert to alky how hard is it to do? And what all parts is needed to do so |
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lss puller
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Screw spark plugs in, throw on an MSD ignition, put on a fuel pump, put on a fuel system, change compression ratio, change gear and go pulling. |
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Registered: 07/24/2017 Posts: 155 |
So what do you think it would cost to swap a 466 ih motor to a alcohol |
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lss puller
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Well I am not an IH man, but I am not sure that you would start with a 466. Believe you would go with a DT 360 so the cubes are right to begin with.
Rods - 3600 Pistons - 1200 Rings - 600 Balanced Crank - 2500 (I suspect llss are running counterweighted cranks) External Oiling system - 750 Clutch and flywheel - 2500 Front drive - 750 Head work - 1500 Fuel Pump - 1200 Fuel System - 1000 Ignition System - 1500 Turbo - 3500 Computer - 1500 Odds and ends - 1500 My guess is you would have $20k in the motor pretty quick. This is my approximation. |
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Lss pulled
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Forgot Camshaft, lifters, block work - 3000 |
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Registered: 07/24/2017 Posts: 155 |
Is this to convert to alcohol or is that to build a diesel motor ? |
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llss
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if you buy a tractor make sure it meets the rule set for the association you would pull the most with
fuel is up to you. spark plugs are less hassle to maintain though every combination can and will break, just give it time how much experience do you have behind the wheel of a pulling tractor? llss may not be the place to start if you don't have much seat time on anything much less a llss that can get squirrelly whatever you decide its gotta be fun and within your budget |
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Registered: 07/24/2017 Posts: 155 |
Llss is what is in my price range. I've never been on one haha. I'm just starting out |
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LEWIS
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Thanks Wayne he text me several times on the phone I tried to help .I just requested he called me because everyone knows I cant spel and IM a one finger tiper typer |
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Registered: 06/03/2008 Posts: 44 |
Sorry Bama, I was just trying to be funny because of the way that it was written.
But to answer your question: If you are talking about stock parts, there are a bunch of pieces that would get torn up pretty quick in the drive train starting with the transmission, and the differential and the clutch. Actually you would never be able to compete with out first spending about $6k in those areas. At that point, you should be fairly reliable. Lewis, I always enjoy your posts because you typically tell,it like it is. Keep up the good posts. |
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Registered: 02/19/2009 Posts: 526 |
A good charger, I don't know your pulling group rules, but find a good one . Hx 60 is a good start |
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LEWIS
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You will be to heavy and will always have to run junk light weight tires and the tractor wont balance although the 407 is a great engine but very expensive to work on you sure cannot operate a competitive diesel on a tight budjet' ,The price of a good fuel system and turbo alone will build a decent running alcohol engine |
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Registered: 07/24/2017 Posts: 155 |
It's been bored out to 470 cubes |
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Registered: 01/10/2016 Posts: 183 |
If you going to run diesel I would build a 466 and then you may still be short on power |
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Registered: 07/24/2017 Posts: 155 |
I think it's now a 468 with a s400 turbo
13mm Bosch p pump bigger injectors 706 rearend double disc Kentucky clutch water injected Aluminum disc brakes 120 fuel lines What could be added to make more HP? Hx60 turbo and what else |
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Registered: 07/24/2017 Posts: 155 |
it has a 706 rear end it has a 407 engine with a Vogel can 13mm p,pump. Water injection kit on it and it is 470 cubes. What else is needed? |
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Registered: 04/06/2008 Posts: 263 |
A 706 rear end with a 407 in front of it will be really expensive to get light enough. |
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Registered: 07/24/2017 Posts: 155 |
It weighs 5500 empty with no weight and driver |
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Driver
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Whose tractor is this,we run llss in Ky an a lil bit in Tenn,gonna start running Mid-South next yr,just wondering whose it is an had we seen it before. |
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Registered: 07/24/2017 Posts: 155 |
It's called smokin farmall pulling team |
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llss
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i wish you the best whatever you decide, but most of all have fun making memories with your son |
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Registered: 07/24/2017 Posts: 155 |
Thank you buddy. That's what I'm looking forward to the most |
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Registered: 07/24/2017 Posts: 155 |
Whats the better turbo a s400 or hx60 |
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Registered: 02/19/2009 Posts: 526 |
I run a s400 from fvp. Been a good turbo and very reliable. The hx 60 is better ,but I just haven't up graded. Still will spend around 4000 for the turbo's, with billet wheels |
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