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Grubby while I understand your desire to see bigger payouts to pullers-I do also, who wouldn't-a lack of understanding of the structure of the event is clouding your comments.
The Farm Show and the Pull are state-run events, no different than the state fair or the North American International Livestock Exposition. The committee is a contracted group that puts together a turn-key event for the Kentucky Expo Center and the Fair Board they report to. Putting a roof over a pull costs money; even though the state owns the facilities they have to cost out things just as if an outside party is coming in and using those facilities. There's a ton of labor cost for services that you may or may not realize that have to be done before, during and after the event, from security at the door to ticket takers to the folks who have to clean the bathrooms. It all costs money. For perspective, let's figure what the plan B alternative to a pull costs. If so inclined, hypothetically, the pull got replaced with four concerts during the week with top-flight talent. The example I use is Luke Bryan who is $67 per ticket, on average. $67 per at 18,000 seats with floor seating is $1.206 million per night multiplied by four nights, so we're knocking on 5 million in ticket sales, and 6 million if there was a Saturday afternoon concert. The pull, figure $40 per ticket to factor in the reduced price seating around the starting line, 15,000 seats = $600,000 per night. 5 sessions, = 3 million....if you sell EVERY seat. Lucky for us, we have a fair board that supports Agriculture, the Farm Show, the Pull, and the NAILE. The Fair Board was decidedly less Ag-oriented a few years back and the change is a breath of fresh air. So, for as long as we have a pro-NFMS, pro-CTP group of Fair Board members going to bat for things I think I would let any purse issues slide. Again, I too would LOVE to see bigger payouts, but when the economics offer on paper other more profitable alternatives, I am happy to see the event continue on as-is. Bryan Lively -
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Grubby, you make a good point. I can't say how much the total cost of either option is either, because we don't know the arrangement between an entertainer and a venue is. However any option that provides double the gross income on paper might be a more viable option...in that respect the numbers do not lie.
LSS: I am trying to see your point here. We need to separate the "Show" and the "Pull" as separate events going on in the same spot. I know what booth space costs for a 10x10 hole in the South Wing (ADVERTISING ALERT) and I still pay it....I have also worked the numbers for the entire building, and its amazing. BUT....that South Wing is probably still attached to a bond payment, along with numerous other KEC expenses that include taking down Cardinal Stadium and putting in a multi-use Ag facility. It all costs money. And again, yes...I too would love to see higher payouts to pullers, no matter what event it is. But I leave you with this question, for everyone who reads this: if we doubled, maybe even tripled payouts, how would we view the outcome of those scenarios as there is weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth on the escalating costs to compete at our current level? Bryan Lively -
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No worries from me "NFMS."
I think it is healthy to discuss things and place them in perspective. We might all disagree in many ways but we're only fighting for the sport we all love, from our perspective and opinion. Bryan Lively -
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lol Grubby was never a musician.... by the time the venue, promoter, insurance, sound tech, light guy, etc take their share. the musician/artist/performer is pretty much a furniture mover that works for free... been there done that.
Kidding aside, 10-15% of a ticket face value to a performer is pretty much standard now days. an that's for a know artist... try being in an indy band, seems like most bars i played i ended up with a higher bar tab than my share of ticket sales by the end of the night lol... sound familiar? We pay to play in dirt. that's what this sport is... want to make money playing in dirt? apply for a job driving a dozer or excavator  dont be a farmer... they dont make much too.2 poor 2 pull :-( |
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I love the farm show been going many years for me personally and maybe some others, it would be cool to see all the “pulling vendors” in a single wing or area .... takes 3 years to find some booths Lol. Ya I know they want u to walk threw the Show and see all the vendors and I still would, but I think centrally locating certain especially the pulling vendors in a general area would be good idea. Adam Draudt www.MADPullingPics.com or follow us on 
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