05:48:13pm, Tuesday, April 29, 2025
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Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,660 |
I just looked at BOB FB page and to say that I was amazed and disappointed to see their approach to their members posting on any social media platforms was shocking. To say that the leadership is thin skinned is a huge understatement. If you can't stand the idea that your pullers don't agree with your every decision then maybe leadership is not your calling. You never see any national organization posting that nonsense. In fact anyone in leadership should welcome and encourage ( or at least tolerate any and all opinions ). Certainly not the way to run a organization. I went back and reread their FB page and it's even more ridiculous then I thought , if someone's grandmother or 8-year-old child post anything on Facebook you could be banned for life . As always we welcome any and all opinions, thank you. Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/12/2025 07:30AM by Dick Morgan. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Austin
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If you don’t know what you’re talking about I wouldn’t talk! a Facebook page isn’t an area to post vulgar language complaints in fact if you don’t like the post on here you delete them. I’ve seen it first hand Second the leader doesn’t run the Facebook page the lady that does posted that because she had to delete some vulgar language comments.so dick at least know what your talking about |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,660 |
I couldn't care less who posted it, it's their rules on their FB page. This is not about some lady or vular language, it's about the rule that penalizes anyone who post anything negative about the organization. You can try and change the narrative, but you haven't changed the rule. And yes, I agree we will delete anything that takes the Lords name in vane or vulgar language. We don't delete content because we don't agree with it or if it's negative about Jake or myself. Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/12/2025 01:37PM by Dick Morgan. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Austin
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Then what’s this post for? If you couldn’t care less all I said was that the post wasn’t towards discussing rules it was towards language so what’s up? |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,660 |
One more time! It's ABOUT the rule that are posted on the Facebook page, pretty easy to understand, RULES. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Austin
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The rule complaints are still there nobody deleted them |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Austin
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It literally says threats and profanity. It doesn’t say there gonna revoke your membership for not likeing the rules. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,660 |
Austin, you are talking about 2 different things. Under the heading: INTERNET BASHING, Pull suspension of one year, to life ban. This for any MEMBER, or anyone associated with member. The foul language threats etc. are in the next heading. Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Wow
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Holy cow!!! The salt must really flow with these big babies. Only one side has the proper opinion, what a horrible org. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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lewis c
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Attention all llss pullers. Anyone not agreeing with BOB or TNT rules, go Amish and shun their pulls. Let the two or three waste their money and have no place to pull. Yours truly, the self proclaimed spokesperson of the LLSS class LMAO Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/12/2025 11:37PM by mh49. |
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Tech man
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Registered: 07/06/2017 Posts: 410 |
Gives a whole new meaning to being a tech man. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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The best I remember, BOB was started by Tom McC with the help and input from some pullers 10-12 years ago. After a few years Tom moved on and several of those pullers invested their own money to take over ownership of the organization. They are the true stakeholders and decision makers of BOB. In our experience with BOB, the decisions regarding rules haven’t always been to our liking or advantage. However, I do believe that the leadership of BOB tries to be fair to everyone. As far as I know, the decisions on rules are approved by the owners of BOB. Everyone may not like it, but it is their company to run. I think they do seek out opinions and advice from the participants in the classes they run. I think it is a good organization that is run by really good people who try hard to put on a good show. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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By posting on this page you agree that you:
Will post comments in a courteous and adult-like manner. Will not impersonate other individuals, page users, or entities. Will not use profanity in your messages, screen names, or subject lines. PULLOFF.COM is designed to be appropriate for all ages, please use appropriate language. Are solely responsible for your comments, PULLOFF.COM takes no responsibility to the accuracy of comments made on this website. Will not speak disparagingly about a business, organization, or individual. If you feel that you need to warn or share an actual experience that may be construed as derogative or negative by other page users you MUST: Post your real name Post your contact info: address, phone number, etc... Alternately you may email all your info to us, but you may only post your comments after you get our reply email. We may not all agree with every topic, but we can all be civil. Please show respect for the perspective of other page users. Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News |
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Code of conduct
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Registered: 01/07/2022 Posts: 138 |
I see no problem with the rules. I would go the other way and encourage more organizations to adapt a professional code of conduct. There is a time and a place for arguments, screaming, shouting, cussing and being nose to nose. Those are at the organizational meetings. Regardless of which organization you are with, when you walk out that door you represent said organization, act like a professional! |
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Re: Code of conduct
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lewis c
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The class was started by the pullers the rules was made by the pullers by a majority vote .But BOB and TNT own there company so i geuse they can make there class as they se fit ,But if the pullers want to keep the class as is, they need to stick together example just like the bigger turbos on diesels 370 470 cubes 6000 to 6500 pound rules got changed these rules always trickel down from one organization to the other after it starts you cant go back, |
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Re: Code of conduct
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lewis c
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Dick and Jake do a great job they have opinions just like everyone they both take the bashings just like me and the rest of us do .But i do have a request from either or get me signed back in i was holding the most thumbs up and down record. Now since im not a member of TNT that i always thought sucked BOB is just as bad members of those two groups started the big turbo BULL rule on diesels they started the weight change now the components KTPA is back and looking for good men who want to pull tractors and leave the log skidder cookie cutter junk out of this class |
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Re: Code of conduct
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,660 |
Naturally every organization has rules, however I'm not aware of any other organization that also has censorship as a rule. Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News |
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Re: Code of conduct
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Registered: 01/07/2022 Posts: 138 |
That’s where you and I see it differently. What you see as censorship I see an organization saying you’re going to represent our brand with integrity. We all talk about professionalism and from my pov this ties into that. Like I stated previously there is a time and a place for everything but when we walk out that door we are the NTPA, PPL, OUTLAWS, BOB etc. I think it promotes a level of professionalism the sport needs. |
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Re: Code of conduct
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,660 |
That's one of I really enjoy about the page, the different opinions on the same topic. I certainly respect your opinion and I try to view it from the other view. Thank you for posting, you always have a good take on pulling. Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News |
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Re: Code of conduct
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Hum
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Well they didn't show any professionalism or integrity Sunday at the meeting, None Whatsoever !!! Nobody was treated with respect or felt appreciated for supporting them, So you get what you give I guess !!! |
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Re: Code of conduct
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looking around
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Did some looking around... Looks like TNT and KTPA also have rules for such things...
TNT Rulebook KTPA Rulebook Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/13/2025 11:28PM by mh49. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Real talk
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Dick, it’s very obvious you’ve never had any skin in the game as far as being a promoter or dealing with all of the headache, whining and crying that goes on in the pulling world. Especially when it involves rules or somebody not getting their way. Sure you pay for the domain name here, and everybody gets on here with nothing positive to say about any organization. It’s always the negativity or what somebody thinks is wrong and then just drag organizations and associations through the mud. With as much negative as you always seem to point out, you have gotta be one of the most miserable people in the world. Since you lack the experience of being in the firing line, slander rules are put in place to prevent drama, hate spread and smear campaigns by pullers, the family, crew or friends. Often many that don’t have a clue what it takes in terms of time, money or energy!! Though they have a big mouth and a huge sack when it comes time to post on Facebook. Example, they get caught with something illegal, could be as simple as a weight bar being too far forward or a hitch being too high. Though they knew well better in the first place. They get caught, thrown out. Said puller and his cronies get on the internet and turn the story around about how they’ve been pulling their truck this way for “forever” and since I beat so and so “ (also interpreted as somebody favored by the association or in the good ole boys club), now this disqualified puller is slandering the association making it seem like they are out to get this guy or play favorites when that’s not what happened. Ole boy was illegal from the get go. So these types of slander rules are put into place. Whether you like them or not or agree and feel like it’s censoring, it’s not. It’s literally about eliminating the drama, headaches and pot stirring that is entirely unnecessary. Which goes hand in hand with protecting the organization (read as business) to try and sustain the course. You can’t make them all happy and never will. People always complain and it gets old as a promoter, tech official, board member, or official. It seems like no matter what you do it isn’t good enough and somebody still wants to take you through the coals. I understand you may not see it as such since all we do here on the pull off page is gripe, complain and knit pick. This page is absolutely atrocious for that kind of thing and is terrible for the sport. If somebody new ran across this page and thought “wow, I’m gonna do some homework and see what pulling is all about, see what these guys say and I might attend or even get invovled”. It wouldn’t take them very long to think pulling is an absolute dysfunctional bunch of grouchy, hateful and miserable pricks. This place is literally the absolute butt hole of the pulling world and that’s what other organizations are not wanting on their pages. Word travels and anybody with any pull in a national organization takes none of this to heart because it’s nothing but complaint. |
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The pickle we're in here.
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Moderator Registered: 01/11/2009 Posts: 1,615 |
So, how did we get in this pickle? I'd like some thoughtful answers.
All I know - with a fan-first mentality - is that 10-15 years ago I could count around 50 active tractors in Kentucky, Beyond that, I remember there were seven different IH engine platforms at play at one event, and nice color in the class beyond that. You know, that stuff they call "variety" at no more than 6250#. A bunch of those tractors are parked now for various reasons. So, again, what action(s) have sent us down this path "needing" components in an "entry-level" class? For me, as a fan, I want the class to stay cast-only. It's my personal opinion. I have talked to pullers at both ends of the spectrum, individuals who I have a great deal of respect for; I've witnessed enough laps from those pullers, great pullers, that I can't offer anything but respect. Those conversations created a contrasting list of pros and cons. I own that I seem to be talking out both sides of my mouth, but It compels a return to my question: What brought us here? Answering that question in a thoughtful manner is the first step in making this class grow and have some much-needed stability. Let me take a minute to also smack the 800lb gorilla in the room while I'm here. It is naive to think that there wouldn't be backlash in calling a meeting, getting an overwhelming amount of feedback then acting contrary to that feedback. It would have been far better to just pop out a press release on Facebook declaring the intent and save folks time and fuel driving to a meeting where the outcome, it appears, was already predetermined, Social media outlets do nothing but amplify the issue. Before some of you get upset at that statement, understand this: I say it because I give a d@mn. There's too many good qualities in the sanctioning bodies, their leadership, pullers, and promoters that have a tangible stake here to NOT point out things sometimes. Make the tough decisions and own them, right or wrong. I want the whole of pulling to prosper. Being passionate about the sport will keep it alive, and indifference will slowly kill it. Consider me passionate. |
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Re: The pickle we're in here.
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Registered: 02/19/2009 Posts: 542 |
We just had are spring meeting here last week for Badger State. And talking about rules and the LLSS class, I had one puller say we need to look at the class as a whole instead of one individual or individuals that what something changed. We are here to put on a show for the fans and the promoters who pay for the class to be there. As for the code of conduct , it's written on our payment of dues when we sign up for the year which we sign on how to conduct yourself as a Badge State member or the Board has the right to take disciplinary action. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/13/2025 11:32PM by mh49. |
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Re: The pickle we're in here.
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Registered: 04/04/2008 Posts: 1,642 |
Reading these post every year it sure looks like the "beginner " class is starting/wanting to have lots of the "pro" class parts. |
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Re: The pickle we're in here.
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Registered: 01/20/2011 Posts: 447 |
Bryan I think there are 2 things that greatly hurt the sport at the entry level classes, well 3 things really. The first thing that hurts is the current style of sleds. Since pulling has evolved from pulling to sled racing the ability to have a tractor weighted just right with good traction make an outstanding hook has been eliminated now it pretty much comes down to whoever was going the fastest when the spikes dropped wins. This forces the class to favor hp and wheel speed over anything about balance and traction. that kind of pulling favors the bigger money guys that can afford the latest and greatest parts and the dyno time to tune them. That really hurts entry level. The other thing is the lack of adoption of box chargers for classes. If everyone is running the same air it keeps the power level pretty consistent the best guys will still have more but likely it makes top to bottom spread on a class more like 100hp than the 300 it often is now. Box chargers also greatly lower the class cost if you use something affordable like an off the shelf borg warner. the 3rd thing is tech enforcement. If the techs don't do a good job enforcing the rules and making sure the box chargers are used then it won't make any difference. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,597 |
You were correct to not post your name. Your comments are idiotic. Maybe you're new here. Maybe you're just really, Really, REALLY dumb. To say that my father or I haven't been in the firing line is completely moronic. I provide you with a forum and allow anyone like you to open bash me, and my father (which you did in your post). Guess what, 99% of those comments bashing us stay on the page unless they cross the guidelines. Also guess what, we don't ban people or suspend people. We have thick skin and ignore most of it.
Back when I was younger (10-20 years ago) I did fundraiser bike rides for the American Diabetes Association and the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation. We had one jealous page user that consistently bashed myself and my father. That page user was bold enough to say that I was stealing all the money for the fundraiser (by the way nobody set me money, it went directly to the organizations through a link on their respective websites,. Anyone with a brain knows that's how those type of fundraisers work). The same user had the audacity to say that I never had a sister and my father never had a daughter who died of Diabetes. Telling someone who lost a daughter that he never had a daughter... LOW. Scum of the Earth type of thing. I don't need to know who did it. I don't care. I'm pretty sure it went WELL BEYOND the bashing or dragging that ANY organization has ever gone through. It was personal. Nothing like complaining about any rule or how an organization meeting went. The organizations need to grow a set of balls and get a thicker skin. Telling my father and I that we don't know what it's like to be bashed or dragged (while bashing my father) is beyond tone deaf. Do better. Be smarter. Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Wild….
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So as the guy said, and gave Dick credit for owning pull off, then he says that Jake has sole ownership and Dick is just a moderator, the guy your calling really really dumb obviously has a point Jake. If Dick has no ownership of the page, no tractor pulling organization, isn’t a money contributing factor to an association or organization, it logically stands that he doesn’t have any skin in the game and simply, like everyone else, has an opinion. You can take it as you will, though anybody who has been here for any length of time knows Dick posts many many negative comments about everyone. Simply fact. As far as your bike riding diabetes thing, what on earth does that have to do with truck and tractor pulling?? You volunteered your time to arrange some donations. Kudos to ya. Though that is nothing like trying to be financially response for an organization to sustain it year after year to sell a show to venues. Anything you were able to gain was a positive and a bonus. Any money you didn’t get donated, nobody noticed on the bottom line because you had nothing to lose. Do better. Be smarter. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,597 |
Sure some of it is negative. I won't argue that. Much of my fathers comments are constructive criticism (some may see those as negative, but the sport has a tons of shortcomings and there are already too many who view it through rose colored glasses).. If I asked you which organization does my father say "negative" things about the most? I'm sure you'd answer NTPA. I'd say... Absolutely. Now, let's look at my fathers relationship with Gregg Randall (kind of an important guy in NTPA), it's really, really good. My dad and Gregg get along great. Gregg is a smart guy and he's smart enough to understand that comments about the organization ARE NOT comments about him personally. Gregg has thick skin and he needs it because of the leadership roll he's in. John Mears is cut from the same cloth, smart, and thick skinned. Larry Richwine is another guy, Larry has always been quick to say hello even when we were critical of rules. Other leaders in other organizations could take a lesson from Gregg, John, and Larry. Leaders learn to have thick skin. Censoring negative speech and difficult discussion is woke, weak, spineless nonsense. If these other leaders can't take criticism about their organization then they aren't really leaders. I can guarantee that if my dad had a tractor Gregg would NEVER consider punishing him for his comments, BOB on the other hand, well who knows?
I'm sorry you're not smart enough to see the connection... its about being bashed, dragged, and criticized. It's about putting up with criticism and personal attacks. Is pulling criticism somehow a special category of criticism? NO! Is there a magical nerve that get struck when someone is critical of your organization or event that isn't struck when someone accuses you about lying about not having a deceased daughter. Please, that's a stupid argument. Anyone with ten brain cells knows that a personal attack like that is much worse than someone saying your organizing has a crappy rule or you event was run like garbage. If your not smart enough to see that this page has opened up my father and myself to both pulling related attacks as well as personal attacks then you're not very smart at all. Those attacks happened SPECIFICALLY because of running a TRUCK AND TRACTOR PULLING WEBSITE. That's what it has to do with pulling. As for my fathers status with the page. Yes, I pay the bills. Yes I am the sole owner. I'd also say that my dad is a little more than just a moderator, I consider him a partner on the page. I have numerous great moderators and he's on a different level than them. He has plenty of skin in the game from my perspective regarding this page and his reputation with it and therefore this motorsport. Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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This reeks
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Very personal attack just because some one agrees with the founding fathers. Censorship is an evil way to control you and to retain absolute power. Black kettle much on the description of pullers !??? |
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I want to clear up one very important issue.
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,660 |
My son Jake is the sole owner of pulloff.com, he started the page, pays for the page, does all of the maintenance of the page. and has final say on all things pertaining to the page. I, like several others act only as a moderator of the site. Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Registered: 11/24/2019 Posts: 294 |
It’s good that you tough guys are posting anonymously. Shows how brave you are when you trash people but aren’t man enough to sign your name to it. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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lewis c
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DICK YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB COULD YOU GET ME REDISTERED BACK IN SEEMS IM HAVNG TROUBLE IM NOT SCARED TO USE MY NAME IF IM WRONG WICH IS VERRY SELDOM .BOB AND TNT IS WRONG I KNEW FROM THE START TNT SUCKED BUT NEVER THOUGHT BOB WOULD STOOP TO THE SAME LEVEL ITS TIME FOR THE MAJORITY OF PULLER,S THAT DONT WANT THIS NEW CHANGE SHOW THEM WHO OWNS THIS CLASS |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Unimportant Name
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Yessiree, Dirtfarmer, you always do such a great job of posting your real first & last name! Yep, you come on here bashing those that do not. And yet you do the same exact thing. Such 'standards' you employ! And there are plenty of other posters in the same camp. So why do you hide behind a nickname and yet think that is your real name?
And the Morgan's have proved to us, many times over the decades, that they cannot even abide by their own forum conduct rules. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Registered: 11/24/2019 Posts: 294 |
I guarantee the Morgans know my name and those of all the other registered users. All they know about you is that you post under numerous names.
Since you know everything, they just as well shut off posting by anyone but you. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,597 |
I'd love to see examples of the rules I violated. Please post links and specific quotes. Since I "have proved to us, many times over the decades" it should be really easy for you to find some examples. I'll wait. As a side note, just for you're education: Even if I did violate my rules (I can't wait to see your examples) I have rules in my house for guests. For example, if you came over to visit my house you're not going to go in my bedroom and jump on my bed. Since I own the house I can jump on the bed whenever I want because I make the rules. You are a guest on this page. Pretty easy concept. As for guys like Dirtfarmer, they have the integrity to login and use a consistent screen name, and I know their names. It builds a reputation that most intelligent people reading this page respect. Dirtfarmer has made almost 300 posts on the page under a consistent screen name, that's a pretty decent reputation. I'll give guys like that way more leeway than someone who hides and constantly changes their name. Waiting anxiously for your examples of my rule violations. Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Registered: 04/03/2016 Posts: 783 |
You know my name also. Jake no matter what, you can't please everyone in life. It took me a long time in mine to realize that. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Nic's F-I-L
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Who DOESN'T know the Supertiquer? Some of us know a little more about you than the general public though 
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Time to call it quits
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It’s not just this class they do this way. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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New lights
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Two new organizations that are opening up in ky this year with a lot of classes |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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lewis c
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Well thats good ive talked to around 25 pullers that says they are not pulling with them im glad the pullers are going to stick together AND NEED TO THIS IS A GOOD CLASS THATS ALREADY GOT OUT OF HAND AND NEEDS STOPPED BEFOR ITS TO LATE |
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WOW
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Registered: 04/03/2016 Posts: 783 |
After reading all the posts all I can say is WOW! |
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Re: WOW
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Agreed
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For sure agree. I feel like Dicks conversation is a moving target. He states one thing then Jake contradicts is. Makes no sense. Jake is also acting like some spoiled little peckerhead. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Out of state puller
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Lewis c. We like coming down there to pull but we will not be back as long as they went to keep changing the rules what are the new organizations and what is their rules |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Curious
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Who are the two new organizations in Kentucky? |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Old time puller
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Well, it’s about time to do something The three best tractors in Kentucky for sale so are we going to run everybody off and let the cry baby’s have their way when you have a meeting of the pullers and they vote a rule down and the next day the so called leaders of the organization do what they want. It’s time to change the leadership or to the organization. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Yep
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PREACH IT !!!! I counted 5 total that's forsale now !!! Very STUPID move on BOB & TNT --- but they were warned !!! They just cost everyone !!!! I HOPE THAT NOBODY SUPPORTS EITHER ORGANIZATIONS LLSS CLASS !!! IF YOU DO DONT COMPLAIN ABOUT NOTHING CAUSE YOU HAVE NO SAY IN ANYTHING ANYWAY !!! |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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KPA
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If u guys are looking for a place to hook, KPA (Kentucky Pulling Association) Will be hosting a pull in Carlisle,Ky April 19th. |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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really?
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So they could just pull with the multiple other clubs that are sticking by the original rules but instead because BOB made them mad they're gonna sell out? Makes tons of sense... |
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Re: Battle of the Bluegrass FB page. They posted their rules, I'm amazed.
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Wondering
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If you think for a minute that TNT won't follow suit.with the components your wrong. Eddie just backstabber BOB since they were.working together on the. Components in the first place. They can't pull with KTPA cause they change there Turbo rule cause they where tired of getting there ass kick. So where do you want them to pull please us know. |
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Yep
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They NEVER supported KTPA, pulling a couple times a yr isn't supporting a club, they supported TNT and BOB and they found out how appreciated they were, KTPA was told by them that they didn't care what they done turbo wise that they would run at the front anyways so there's no reason to be mad at KTPA period, this was witnessed by about 15 people at the meeting last yr, I'd think I'd either run Mid-South or change a turbo and back up what I claimed I could do rather than sell out. |
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Old time puller
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Don’t worry mid south and ntpa will follow suit in a year |
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Jason Smith
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They supported KTPA when they could it's not like KTPA had a ton of pulls and they were running for points with TNT. And as far as putting on a smaller turbo and running with KTPA. All I know is Travis Gordon has won in ever class he has ever pulled in and has done it his way and the right way by the book. |
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Yep
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KYPA had around 22 hooks,that may not be a ton but it's a bunch, Travis is a good puller with top notch equipment, but HE SAID he would run at the top regardless of what KTPA did with the turbo rule " his words ", Several believe he can !!!! There's no need for Anyone to be upset at KTPA when no diesels supported them, the Blue team made 2 or 3 hooks max !!! |
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Davin Wright
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Alright yep, whoever you are, what was said at the meeting was there would not be a 3” charger put on his tractor just to run KTPA. If he had to put a 3” charger on it would be on an alcohol motor. It was brought up and discussed what the rules were several years ago before the rule was 3.4 which was 3.6. Well we all know that wouldn’t work now would it? We were not going to purchase 2 turbos to run with one organization when there are multiple others that we could run and not buy new chargers. Now before you come with that bs about look where that got ya pulling with those other groups, listen to this, we sat there with the 15 or so pullers you mention around the table and they voted and told a gentlemen that pulls an Oliver based tractor he was legal and he could pull, well after waiting for parts and working on his tractor all year he made it to one pull and won, guess what the powers at be told him not to come back no more winning for you. . Ktpa eliminated all diesel tractors and Oliver based tractors just to appease 4 or 5 folks. I don’t care what they do all three clubs have made a mess of the class and the pulling world is laughing at all of us. If we want to sell our tractors I guess that’s our right, if they don’t sell I’m sure we will pull somewhere this summer |
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Registered: 01/13/2015 Posts: 65 |
You may be mistaken about Mid South following suit in a year |
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Don
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Davin I would like to have you and Travis come and run NTPA region 2 with us this summer we don’t have the BS. you do down there |
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lewis c
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yOUR NTPA SIR WAS SOME OF THE START OF THE BS TOOK THE THE CLASS THAT WAS GOING STRONG AND MADE THE RULES FOR THE FEW INSTEAD OF THE MAJORITY THATS BS 470 CUBE IS BS BIG TURBOS FOR DIESELS WAS BS OVER 6000 POUNDS WAS BS THIS IS YOUR BS YOU SAY YOU HAVE NONE OF DON 80 PERCENT WILL AGREE WITH MY STATMENT SATISFIENG THE 20 PERCENT THATS LEFT IS ALSO BS |
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lewis c
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BY THE WAY DON I AM THE SELF PROCLAIMED SPOKSPERSON FOR THE CLASS AND THE ONE THAT GOT THE CLASS STARTED |
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get a grip
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Layoff Mr. know it all.
You don't speak for this class when it's north of the Ohio River......because that dirt is different and 6500 is a very reasonable weight for these conditions - get over it! Also there's nothing wrong with the 470 option if the turbo had been properly spec'd and perhaps had been a "box" model to keep people in check. |
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KY PULLER
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Lewis that could be the problem maybe we need a new spokesperson |
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lewis c
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KY PULLER WICH DIESEL IS YOURS GARANTEE ONE IS OR ONE OF THE FIVE WANTING TO GO SKIDDER |
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C LeWiS jR
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Lewis what’s BS is you talking you don’t have a tractor? Why are you stuck in 1995 why don’t you build a tractor and come kick everyone’s ass build a diesel with a 3.4 and come out here and dominate sense you think that’s what is happening you do it and show us what your talking about just do it and stop talking ignorant on here. Do it Lewis I wanna see your idea of what’s wrong with this class do it with all your 1995 Technology,box turbo,5500pounds,and ag tires do it Lewis do it I wanna see you kick everyone’s ass Lewis back up your bs talk Lewis |
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lewis c
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Evidently you dont know half of what i know ive had three llss tractors one twinn turbo ss 3 modified stock tractors helped a lot of people with there tractor ,And have llss pullers from every organization pulling that pulls the llss calling me talking about the BS thats ruining the class ive pulled since 1984 so ive forgot more than most LIKE U know and have seen a lot of classes come and go and know how and why it happened My ideas started the class your new ideas will end the class I love people that cant use there name if you think building a 100 thousand dollar tractor to win 500 is going to grow a entry level class you my friend have just explained yourself as being stupid |
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Old time puller
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If any one thinks that you make money pulling don’t get into this sport it is just a expensive hobby |
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Lower Case Conner
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Is anyone else other than me impressed that Lewis figured out how to turn off his CAPS LOCK button? |
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