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Re: Updated engine block and hood list
September 29, 2009 01:14AM
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Registered: 03/25/2008
Posts: 2,526
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Sascha,
Thanks for the info, I updated the list to include the combinations you mentioned.
I also simplified the list it to make it easier for everyone to read. The list is straightforward and it's very similar to the rules we’ve had for years, but it allows people the ability to move backwards with the sheetmetal for their given brand.
I honestly believe this list is actually what a vast majority of people favor (the poll shows this to be the case). I also believe there are many who don’t think people will cross breed or that don’t quite understand what that actually means. First, it will happen, and second, it means a Ford hood on a John Deere tractor, it means a John Deere hood on an IH, etc… It will happen, and it will hurt the classes that allow it.
What I also did was spell out what I think should be a legal engine. The NTPA used the term “legal block” but I haven’t seen where they specified what exactly that phrase constitutes. They haven’t defined a “legal block” in a clear and concise way. As the NTPA stands right now, any “legal block” on the GN circuit is any Ag block in the DSS, LSS and OSS classes. It’s somewhat undefined in the other tractor classes.
Here’s my simplified and revised list:
| 1. |
AC block (including: AC, Detroit 40 Series, Navistar, etc...) |
any AC, Deutz Allis, AGCO-Allis, or AGCO hood |
| 2. |
Case block |
any Case or CaseIH hood |
| 3. |
Cockshutt block (including: Cat, Hercules, Continental, etc...) |
any Cockshutt, White or Agco-White hood |
| 4. |
Deere block |
any Deere hood |
| 5. |
Deutz block |
any Deutz, Deutz Allis, Deutz Fahr, or AGCO hood |
| 6. |
Fendt block (including: Deutz, Man, etc...) |
any Fendt hood |
| 7. |
Fiat block |
any Heston hood |
| 8. |
Ford block |
any Ford or New Holland hood |
| 9. |
IH (including: Farmall, Hypermax, etc...) |
any IH or CaseIH hood |
| 10. |
Massey block (including: Perkins, Continental Sisu, etc...) |
any Massey hood |
| 11. |
Minneapolis Moline block |
any MM, White or AGCO-White hood |
| 12. |
Oliver block (including Cat, Hercules, Waukesha, etc...) |
any Oliver, White or Agco-White hood |
| 13. |
Valtra block (including Sisu) |
any Valtra hood |
| 14. |
White block (including Cat) |
any White, AGCO-White, Oliver, MM, or Cockshutt hood |
| Special Engines (these are included in the list above,
but they are clarifications to avoid confusion) |
| 1. |
456 Genesis block |
any NH, Ford, IH or CaseIH hood |
| 2. |
5.9L/6.7L Cummins block |
any AGCO-series (including Oliver, MM, AC, etc...), any CaseIH-series (including: Case, IH, Farmall, etc...), any McCormick hood, any Landini hood |
| 3. |
8.3L Cummins block |
any AGCO-series (including Oliver, MM, AC, etc...), any CaseIH-series (including: Case, IH, Farmall, etc...), any NH-series hood (including Ford) |
Owner must satisfy any one of the following requirements for the block to be deemed legal in any of the tractor divisions:
- Owner must be able to prove the block was used in a commercially available tractor (owner must provide specific make and model of that tractor).... or
- Owner must be able to prove that the block is a licensed OEM replacement for a tractor (i.e. IH running a OEM approved Hypermax block)... or
- Owner must be able to prove that the block will accept an unmodified stock crank from a tractor of the same manufacturer as the original block for that brand (i.e. using the 474 Ford block inplace of the 401 Ford block in a Ford or NH hooded tractor)
If any of the above are satisfied the block will be deemed legal for that brand, and the hood combination can be chosen from the above table.
This will allow everyone to move forward or backwards with their hoods. It will allow for some very extreme variety without crossing brand lines, and without crossing heritage brand lines... meaning you cannot put an AC 426 under an Oliver hood, even though they are both now owned by AGCO.
If anyone else has engines or brands that should be added please let me know and I'll update the list and include them.
Jake Morgan
Owner, PULLOFF.COM
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/29/2009 01:15AM by Jake Morgan.
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