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That is hard to tell. Except for the MF, the black Case/Ih, that Red Baron and that 504 Case nobody ran a turbo that was "on the limit". The only ones having serious pumps in, were the black Case/Ih and the Red Baron.
This all is still very new to them and basically most of who compete in those clases have been on the "scare the local farmers" agenda with rotary pumps and "stock cheater" turbos and the rpms wide open, so are not really purpose built machines. I am just glad we got them together on common ground and now all heading the same direction and the rpms at the brush pulls have come down from 4000 to 3200 (except for some smart asses who still don't get it) and in a lot of cases 3000 to 2700 are enforced by the teams themselves. It seems with fire ringing the heads, 13mm pump, a 1000$ Turbo and an industrial air to air intercooler you are all set to be competetive for now. The fact it will not go much beyond this and should stay kinda affordable for quite a while got their interest. It will take 2 to 3 more years until we have enough tractors for a "close competition" at the top though. I am basically dealing with young guys here, who don't want to invest much more than 1000 to 2000 $ a year into the tractors. The other problem is to find tractors here, that are big enough to be turned into a pulling tractor. Those IHs with the 358 engine were considered "huge" for their time (70s) and the only other tractors that were close in performance (8006 to 13006 Deutz, the 8 cyl inline Schlüters and 611 to 618 Fendts) are already getting collector prices paid for already - or like the Fendts, are still popular at the Farms. Also, the eastern Europeans are sucking the used market empty. Anything that still runs is going to Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, ... to replace a fleet of Belarus tractors. A late 1970s IHC 1455 with the DT402 engine (358 block with stroker crank) in running condition and around 15,000h is still 15,000 US $ - if it looks half way decent and around 10,000h, they go for 25,000 $ and up. 130 06 Deutz - there was only about 200 of them ever registered in this country. 8000 - 9600 Ford - never sold them here. 8700 and up were - but not many. AC, White, Case MM, Oliver,.... Non existant MF - 5.8 Perkins in the 1130, V8s never sold here JD - mostly 3000 series with the 5.9 Liter. In the 80s a few with the 6.6 liter were sold. So to even start in this class, if you don't want to run "red", you are basically forced to either import a tractor from the US or put up with 300 (if that big) to 360 cui engines. Back to the gear ratios and besids the fact they need to work on their performance: As you have probably seen, most of them are on Michelins, Good Year or Kleber Radials, 38 or 42 inch, 650mm to 710mm wide. That's a lot more tire than the tiny and bias 20.8 x 38 tires you run in the US and which you can hardly find here. I think bias tires on farm tractors here were already on their way into history, when I was a little boy.... Here's a bit more tire speed in a 427 cui / 7700 lbs class from our dutch neighbours... to make up for boring you before 
Floating Finish - the German Tractor Pulling Web Show and EU Live Streams: [www.youtube.com] Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2010 02:13PM by Sascha. |
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Found a pic of one of those communist low end tourque 4 banger tractors running in stock class:
The guys now have a Fendt Hot Farm... Floating Finish - the German Tractor Pulling Web Show and EU Live Streams: [www.youtube.com] |
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I plead for forgiveness! never fails make a silly comment meant in jest and someone takes it serious! you guys run some of the hottest running tractors on this side of the border. gezz I hope it still safe to venture through our deep south? LOL
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