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Propane flame color
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If propane is injected into a turbo diesel and at the end of the run the tractor snuffs out, blowing a big fireball out the pipe, what color would the flame be? An almost red color? Or would a red flame be nitrous oxide? Also when the tractor takes off, the turbo makes a shrill shriek and continues all the way down the track, if that helps answer the question. |
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Re: Propane flame color
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Registered: 03/31/2009 Posts: 309 |
nitrous doesnt burn.its an oxygen extender. |
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Re: Propane flame color
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no smoke
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Nitrous tends to make the fuel burn more complete therefore you would see less smoke and probably not a ball of fire |
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Re: Propane flame color
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been told
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I thought a slow blue ball of fire out the pipe was unburned Propane igniting in the exhaust pipe. Fuel accelerants also cause some of the same effects. |
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Lack of oxygen
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Registered: 08/25/2010 Posts: 15 |
I would think that excess propane in the exhaust would be orange in color. Propane burns blue when it's correctly mixed with oxygen, just like your barbecue grill. There is virtually no oxygen in the exhaust of an engine. If the tractor powers out, there will be excess fuel, and therefore excess propane. This propane cannot burn with the appropriate amount of oxygen in the cylinder, so it exists through the exhaust pipe and ignites. In my opinion, that's why the flame would be orange, not blue. |
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Re: Lack of oxygen
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Posts: 508 |
unburnt diesel in the exhaust side will fireball too! |
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Re: Lack of oxygen
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burner
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Exactly. Look at pictures of the ProPain tractor of Colberg when he does his fire show. Excess propane. |
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Re: Lack of oxygen
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badge fan
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colberg injects extra propain in the exhaust to put on a show |
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Re: Propane flame color
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amaco
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turbo housing is tight if its squealing, prolly to tight |
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Re: Propane flame color
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Rocket Scientist
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It's unburnt fuel! It makes some awesome shows at the end of some pulls...some tractors do it, some don't! |
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1566 from Ogilvie raceway pull did that too
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looking back
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Wasn't there was a discussion awhile back on this subject about a IH 1566 that blew out a fire balls at the end of the pull and the tractor had unstopable power. Weren't they were caught with propane injection hid in the air cleaner? |
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Watch for yourself
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Here is a video of what I'm wondering. I know those model 100 pumps can be beefed up for a lot more fuel output, but I don't think it's putting out that much fuel, especially since the smoke isn't that black.
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Re:excessive fuel in exhaust
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ours used to that at the end of a run when it would stall out before water and with 1700 - 1800 degree exhaust temps. |
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Re: Re:excessive fuel in exhaust
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Seems like a power adder to me. Thats why it doesnt idle down like it should when he releases the throttle. But what the heck do I know? I have never used a power adder so I dont really know what it will make an engine do! |
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Re: Watch for yourself
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Posts: 508 |
quite obvious, that's unburnt diesel! now if he were to give his valves a little more tappet clearance, it would probably run a lot better. surly this can't be your biggest competition? |
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Re: Watch for yourself
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I don't even pull in this guy's class. That guy has a 1466 that always runs better than the 1066 in the video. I was just curious as to why it blew that fireball like that; I thought unburnt fuel would be more of an orange color, not reddish. |
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Re: Watch for yourself
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pulled
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The color of the fame depends on the temperature of the fire. |
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Re: Watch for yourself
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Wayne D
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I Pull and Oliver 88 D and my tractor shoots out a fireball not near that but in my opinion it is fuel u have to look at compression and how hot exhaust is casue all smokers will put out a little flame depending on exhaust... |
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