Puttin it in the sand January 20, 2011 12:56PM
I like the picture on the front of PULL OFF with the Mac Daddy stuffed in the sand.I gotta ask who were the real winners in that class?The guys that didnt hit the sand pile and put sand and grit in their engines(and possible bend a few chassis parts),or the guys that got stopped short of the pile?Why cant the sled operators get the sled set right?Or is it that they know some idiots in the stands like seeing pullers ruin their tractors so the sled is set this way intentionally.Anything for a show!That makes me want to just bust my butt to pull at indoor pulls.At Lville a few years ago the test tractor put his tractor on top of the pile.They did NOT reset the sled.Now in order to beat the test tractor one would have had to drive his tractor into the first row of seats to beat the test tractor.Thats the first and last indoor pull I attended,even with getting invited to pull at L'ville the next season.I sent their application back with "NOT INTERESTED" on the application.
Why do pullers go to these pulls knowing full well theres a chance to damage their tractors by hitting the sand?Theres enough maintanance in keeping one of them on the track let alone fixing one after it stuffs a sand pile.
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 20, 2011 01:35PM
It's obvious that you didn't attend the Gordyville pull. I normally would agree with you about the sand, but Klint and the crew do
something a little different. The sand pile is actually dirt, when you hit it you drive up it loose hitch and stop. The other indoor pulls could learn alot from these guys. They do it right! An awesome track, pull alot of vehicles per hour and great tow tractors
along with an indoor warm up smoke machine. Thanks Whats Smokin Crew.Beer
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 20, 2011 03:27PM
Maybe you need to find out the facts before you spout off your keyboard. Knowing Dave Hager, He doesn't set the sled to put everyone in the sand,that would't make much sence. Klint and Crew have too much equipment for every class to have a pulloff. As for Julie's run, you get them every once in a while where it just hooks that good. That was the only one that went that far up the pile, most were stoped at 250 feet. Take for instance the LSS class , most were around 235 and Brian put it at 249. The only other class that was that far from 1st to 2nd was the 9000 Limited Pro, everyone was at 235 and David Street hooked up and went 250. I will agree with you about the sand part , but if you don't want to "hit the sand" you can stop the vehicle with the throttle. If you were invited to louisville then I assume that you sent a application to them. If you don't like indoor pulling then don't BASH IT, stay home and play outdoors, no problem. Klint and Crew put on one hell of a show, alot of things that they do, you see louisville follow in a year or two. take for instance the 3 piont hitches, the NFMS finally used them, but they don't have big enough tractors to properly handle the equipment. Also using the telehandler to put the tractor to the sled. Next you will see a ramp sytle sand or dirt pile maybe, who knows. Thanks Klint and Crew for a well run indoor pull.
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 20, 2011 03:31PM
Wasnt klints crew that made hitches was the royal boys who thought all of that up.
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 21, 2011 02:23AM
Credit to the Royal boys for making the 3 point hitches. Sure does save alot of time. I didn't give Klint credit for building them, just using them, and then they show up at louisvuille two years later. Please tell the Royal boys that sure was a great thing that they started.
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Ever heard of an air filter? January 21, 2011 05:28AM
If it were me, with all the high-dollar stuff under the hood, some kind of air filter set-up would be cheap insurance. With all the high-flow after market stuff these days, I don't think performance would suffer any significant amount.
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 20, 2011 03:32PM
little tough to set the sled when a ntpa super farm beats the ppl's ............?
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 20, 2011 04:39PM
the possible sled settings include box gear, pan drop, push down, and number of weights - all of which can be in any possible combination. and different track conditions completely change the setup required. you just have no idea how hard it is until you've been there. the reasons that make it where a puller doesn't win every pull are the same reasons why a sled setting isn't perfect everytime.
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 21, 2011 12:28AM
You have no bussiness coming on here and putting a post like that on here.Hagar had the sled pretty good in all the classes did you watch the finals thier was only 2 tractors in ntpa session that hit the sand and whatever mcdaddy has going on it is alot better how would hagar guess that. Thanks Hager and Klint and his helpers for the good show
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 21, 2011 01:06AM
You said it right he had no bussines bashing hager at all,gordyville is a credit to what we will see in louisville,but no one will come on here and dare bash louisville of bauer,the way the bashing goes it kind of makes one wonder who is actually stiring the pot.Doesn't it?
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 21, 2011 01:17AM
One thing to consider is that at both Gordyville and Louisville, you have about 240' of track before front wheels start to hit the pile. In my estimation that's about 75% of what you have outdoors (figuring any legitimate pull is 320' or less). When you're setting the sled for 75% of the distance you normally do, it can get tricky for the sled operators to get it spot-on every time. I think Hager's do a pretty good job overall as do Bauer's.

That said...there's A LOT of tractors that somehow come out of nowhere and win or place high in an indoor pull that we all know can't hold a candle to most of the competition week-in-and-week out through the summer. Perhaps it's due to the physics of a shorter run, perhaps not; but it happens quite often.
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 21, 2011 01:41AM
I didnt come on here to bash anyone.I had no idea who the sled operator was.Could care less.I think 99% of the sled operators have the ability to correctly set a sled.But they could better take into consideration that there could be a few tractors that "have it going on" and set the sled a little tighter.I just wonder why someone with thousands of dollars in a puller would want to pull under those circumstances where they have a good chance to trash their tractors.I totally understand that a tractor that "has it going on"as one of you said,can make a "hot pull".Maybe indoor pulls should be held in longer buildings??Or shorten the "safe zone/full pull" of the track.And NO I did NOT send an application in to l'ville.It was sent to me.I dont know why I got an app because my tractor was not that competitive.As far as staying home from indoor pulls.That I do.I prefer to not suck fumes and freeze my butt off.No offense to those who enjoy that.Whatever floats yer boat.
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 21, 2011 02:01AM
Just really impressed that you got invited to NFMS and turned them down! What class do you pull in? Have you ever attended an indoor pull? Just wondering?
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 21, 2011 05:52AM
I have a sled and am looking for someone to go on the road and run it. Would you like to try it for yourself? Pay is not that good and nobody will appreciate you week after week. It is fun meeting people all over the midwest but that comes with a price.
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 21, 2011 01:53AM
why would you even send an application in the first place then and waste $150
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 21, 2011 02:35AM
With all of the factors to consider when setting a sled for any event, much less for Gordyville (short track, classes within classes, etc.), I think Hager is to be commended for the job he does. There is a very narrow margin between letting them run over the sandpile and killing them too early, killing the show and possibly some tractors in the process. In most cases, the majority of every class was stopped just short of the sandpile. Besides, the driver CAN pull the throttle back if the wall starts coming too fast. I'm wondering, Wondering, just what kind of show it would be if YOU set the sled?
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 21, 2011 02:41AM
BORING, 200 foot track, then in the future no one would show up.
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 21, 2011 03:51AM
seen first hand what happens when a pro stock gets a way from you the damged it can do so im all for sand or dirt what ever the pullers prefer to slow it down chasis and motor can be replaced not a person
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 21, 2011 07:18AM
You boys are all missing the point. Most of the top tractor pullers are at the top for a reason, just like nascar you have drivers that are just better than the rest of the field and yes I know deep pockets help. I think some of drivers are more timmed than others. And there are some that have more of a (I have got to win) competitiveness that drives them, some drivers got it some dont. My point is the guys putting there tractors in the sand pile would not pull out of the throttle for just about anything they want to be the top dog, and some damage to the tractor is chance they will take everytime. I would bet that there are some tractors out there that are not at the top of the class but have the capabillity to be with the right driver.
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sand in the eye January 21, 2011 09:45AM
just returned from the eye doctor, 3rd surgery since murfreesboro,forgot to put face shield down
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Re: sand in the eye January 21, 2011 10:23AM
You'd do it again next year wouldn't ya?
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Re: sand in the eye January 21, 2011 11:27AM
I probably would be willing to risk one eye
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Re: sand in the eye January 21, 2011 12:27PM
Winking
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Re: sand in the eye January 25, 2011 11:50AM
its a dirt hill in gordyville so what are you going to break? will a tractor break if it goes up a hill? better be careful when i load it in the hauler since those ramps might just ruin my tractor!
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Re: sand in the eye January 25, 2011 11:48PM
not that it will ever have to do it - but imagine this one hitting the sand pile....

That could easily be a 50 to 60.000$ damage


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Re: sand in the eye January 26, 2011 01:18AM
Thats the whole point of the post.Its obvious Sascha has some respect for their machine.
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 21, 2011 02:05PM
Maybe u should get into a different hobby like gay porn Who doesn't like to see a show all the drivers can let off the throttle at anytime u probably own a lawn mower and have never driven a pulling tractor and u can't keep ur mouth shut Louisville is not gonna miss u at all its people like u that get jabbering on these chats and u have no idea what the pullers and they fans want. Full pull u queer
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Re: Puttin it in the sand January 22, 2011 01:38PM
As I see it this guy thinks that he got an invite to the NFMS when it was actually just an "application" just like everyone gets. Pretty big difference there!
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