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466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Archie
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What are some realistic horsepower and torque numbers for a 466 ih 3000 rpm 3" precision turbo and water injection? |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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ppuller
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what kind of pump, A,P,Rotary |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Registered: 06/27/2008 Posts: 83 |
From what i have been told a good good super farm BSTP set up is around 1250 hp, so 1000 to 1150 hp is way off base. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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smallblock
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1250, maybe 3 years ago. so tell me why a 466 cant have 11-1150 |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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2hot2farm
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1000hp to 1150hp 2000 to 2350 ftlbs |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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You mean hot farm? No "farm stock" will be running a 3"charger, or water injection! Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/21/2011 01:41AM by injpumped. |
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Blah ha ha 2hot to dyno
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Registered: 10/26/2010 Posts: 101 |
1000 hp 466 at 3000rpm! Try half that first! |
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Re: Blah ha ha 2hot to dyno
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Registered: 07/11/2008 Posts: 326 |
Is that a 3x3 or a 3x?? or turbo with a slug?? |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Registered: 06/27/2008 Posts: 83 |
3000 rpm with 3in to make 1250hp sounds pretty far fetched to me, unlimited rpms maybe you will grt close |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Registered: 06/27/2008 Posts: 83 |
besides this farm stock, you would probably have to spend 50 grand to do it |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Builder
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Average number would be 750HP with 466 3000 RPM 3x3 and water.
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Been There
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I will agree with that!! Dyno tells all. 3000 rpm changes things big time. RPM limited factor!!!!!!! |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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what for turbo and what other needs done to make 750 hp at 3000 rpm? |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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ain't enough
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A whole lot more cubes. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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smallblock
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I never said 1250 for a 466 and another thing more rpms is no different. Where does a motor make its peak power? with 3 inch inlet its under 3000 rpm. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Registered: 08/07/2008 Posts: 86 |
I think Builder is the only one that has the numbers close.A higher HP 466 will need to turn in the 5500 rpm range.With the timing set to run those rpms it will fall on its face anything below about 3500 rpm.So the power range is nowhere near 3000 rpms.Its well above that.A 5500 rpm 466 is night and day difference between a 3000 rpm 466.No comparison.A good number for a 3x3 466 cid SF style motor is around 900-950 HP at the crankshaft.BTDT. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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ihfenderbender
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If it was my motor i would find a good camshaft with a good head flowing around 230 to 245 and a good fuel systm with no bigger than 4-28 or 5-20 injectors. The turbo depending on if you can run a inercooler or not if u cant run one i would go to a 2.75 or no bigger than 2.8 you will find you will have better results at the far end and then a water systen that will put you around 850 975 hp on a 3000rpm tractor ih |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Builder
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Good luck on that one.
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Registered: 09/10/2009 Posts: 54 |
I agree with you. I don't think it is that easy to get 850-975 out of a 466 at 3000 rpm's. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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ihfenderbender
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That is a proven set up proven on dyno the thing is who u get to do your work and up to date on things like anything else. What ever advise you take stick with one guy on your heads and camshafts dont jump around to different builders they all have different opions on how to build hp its the guys with the dyno time and research that can help you the most. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Builder
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Proven on what dyno one that is off 150+HP? Come on now a low class SF puts out 1000HP.
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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have one
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builder you are crazy. you better not come around were i am from cause you will get a woopin. i have a 466 3in precision turbo and 3000 rpms and water injection and i just got back from a dyno lat weekend with 1130 hp at the crank. it can be done and is being done. i no im not the only one that is figuring this out. i have seen these 3000rpm tractors woop the @#$%& out of pro stocks and super farm tractors |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Registered: 10/26/2010 Posts: 101 |
well then what is the ass. that u run with and what is the name of YOUR TRACTOR! |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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ihfenderbender
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builder i dont think u know what your talking about or havent been pulling in a couple of years . |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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huh
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ok we got a 466, smaller s400 turbo, p-pump, and we run open rps (Launch at 4500 or so) cam, lifters etc. and i figure we make 5-600 hp
am i way off? does a 3 in turbo make that much of a difference?? |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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have one
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yes a 3 in charger will make a difference. but there is a lot of other factors that come into play when getting that kind a power. head flow, cam, pistons. the way your water is set up, the size of your intake, size pipe on the intake. the list goes on and on but it IS being done. like i said there are 3000 rpm tactors that will give a lot of super farms and pro stocks a run for their money. just cause they dont run high rpms doesnt mean that there isnt a lot of power there. this all being said if this guy is truly running farm stock then none of this matters cause if your doin all this u better not be in any farm class!!! |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Builder
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You just as well come clean and tell everyone where your hiding the bottle.
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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ihfanatic
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Builder, I to just dyno tuned my motor last weekend. 466cu ppump 3000rpm water injection 3in charger. You'll be amazed at the results. hp and torque were excellent numbers |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Builder
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Where are you located at and if the dyno numbers where so great can you tell us what they are. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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ihfanatic
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over 850 hp |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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thinkerer
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Pardon my skepticism, but you fellas are going to have to help me believe those numbers. A name and phone number for both the engine builder and the shop that did the dyno work would be a good start. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Puller#1
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Just because you don't know how to build an engine, doesn't mean the rest of us don't. Get back in the garage and do your homework, and then bring your best game out of the barn, which I'm guessing is a D+. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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thinkerer
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Just because you guys can't back up your claims with any kind of independently verifiable facts doesn't mean anybody is buying it either. Just a name and contact info for somebody who is building these things and someone who has dynoed one is all I'm asking for. While you're at it, why not pony up with your name and the name of your tractor so I can tell the builder who referred me. There might be a free T shirt or another 100 imaginary hp in it for you. If you yourself are the super genius who is building these, you should be more than happy to give your name and number, because there is a lot of potential business out there for a combo like this, if it can actually live up to the hype. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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have one
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thinkerer you are crazy to think that i am goin to give u the name of the guy working on my tractor with me. i dont care if you believe me or not but i be damned if im going to release to the world what i did so everyone else can copy me. good luck with that one. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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thinkerer
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"Well Adam, I think we can say that this myth is, without a doubt, BUSTED!" |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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challenged
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this goes out to all you "super" 3000 rpm pullers, install 24.5 32s, leave the bottle at home and come to tohma , hell i'll buy your membership for the night , when the pan drops on the sled i'll give you oh say 10 feet at the most you will find out that your 1100 hp doesn't even come close to the big bore torque, I know i've dynoed them both! |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Registered: 06/17/2008 Posts: 137 |
Easy challenger----a Badger 640 pro-farm might take you up on that---and their little 20.8's might spin past you're 24.5s!!! Nothing I read on here said a 466 hot farm (3000 rpm) could torque or hp with a national level super farm---,but super farms seem to have difficulty consistently repeating performances, as gear selection and balance are so important to match a sf's power/torque to track conditions---open rpm 466's in KY on certain tracks, have finished in the top three of super farm on occassions, on 18.4 x 38 tires, running against super farms that have finished in the top ten at Bowling Green in recent years. I like super farm, may be the most difficult class to build power and dominate in pulling, based on the big cubes and charger limitations. But that said, you know as well as any one else, if you've done much dyno work, your motor is only a 4.1 charger away from busting 2000 hp!! |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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ky fan
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I think that the tractor your speaking of beating up up the super farms was protested and a pressurized line was found [propane or nitrous] didn't get to pull for a year and 5 days. I think it was general knowledge that a majority of the good running tractors in that class [profarm] was running a little too good. They didn't and don't today run nearly as good after the protest even after 4 years of improvements |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Registered: 06/17/2008 Posts: 137 |
Let's see someone show some dyno results showing a 3x3, 466 p-pump open rpm tractor making 500 or 600 hp at 4500 rpm---to support the laughing at someone claiming over 850 hp at 3000 rpm, if he wasn't that strong, he needs to find another pro-farm hot farm builder---looked at a 466 dyno sheet yesterday, over 1100 hp at 4450 with an S400, 1600 pounds torque, but at 3000 rpm, still making over a 1000 hp, and smiliar torque. Pump timing can be used to raise hp, and lower torque, or vise versa, but at a 100 bucks an hour, or 800 to a 1000 dollars a day for dyno time, you can personally verify any engine's level of performance. If you believe the 3000 466 tractors are only capable of 600 hp, you might should attend a hot farm class, and witness a 10000 lb tractor, with 2.75 charger, 466 cubes, pulling a 12 to 18 percent over road gear, with a sanction sled. 600 hp might get you stock 7th gear---and 200 feet of track. 2 hp per cubic in at 3000 rpm appears to be state of the art, but if anyone was to research the 3.0 charger, cummins diesel builders pages, I would not be suprised to soon find a 1000 hp dyno sheet for a 5.9/6.7 cummins diesel, as some of those builders are posting dyno sheets on their web sites, as a form of advertising, and that's an impressive number out of that little beast. Finally, no one on here seems to question a state of the art 640 3x3 super farm, can produce 1280 hp (2 hp per cu in)---but super farm is a restrictor plate class, the 3x3 kills the rpm and makes them survive on massive torque---a 466 or ever a 540 3x3, are far more efficient engines, in terms of pure horsepower, that can be supported by a 3x3 charger, be it an old h3 or a $4000 plus percision, at the 3000 rpm level or open rpm. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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apples/oranges
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That 1000hp dyno sheet on a Cummins 5.9/6.7 sure as hell wasn't at 3000 rpm. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Anonymous User
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I think anything over 750-800 At 3000 would be far fetched without some pressuized assistance. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Registered: 01/20/2011 Posts: 446 |
A 1000-1050 flywheel hp is the max I have seen on a 466 with a 3x4 and a p-pump at 3000 rpm with water injection. I have seen Cummins 5.9's in the 1200hp range with a 3x4" and an intercooler but it takes more like 4000rpm to be there. I have also seen clipped wheel 2.6" chargers with intercoolers on 5.9's go over 1000hp, but again at more than 3000rpm. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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new puller
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just wondering what a 466 3000rpm would make for power. was thinking of running 3x4 intercooler and water. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Registered: 05/08/2011 Posts: 102 |
If you read the entire post, you'll see that few agree and you are probably going to ge different answers with most around 700-800hp range. Best way to find out is talk to a builder that has built (and dynoed) them before, of whom you can speak to, face to face. It doesn't matter if so and so can make 1500hp with their set-up, if you don't know what the set-up is. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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Call Jeff suits
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he'll fix you up 1000 Hp 3K 466 motor with water.... 1200 if you want a cooler. |
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Re: 466 Farm Stock HP Numbers
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ben1066
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whats his number? |
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