If this is best for there club and class so be it, it's there choice. It doesn't have to be like everyone else. How many are going to run with them . Just if your rules don't allow it, any they pull with your club . Better have good tech people to check
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What is the reasons why they are going with recast heads in the llss class?
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Talked to Ed , and said the board said to keep it simple and let everyone be able to run 30.5 if they wanted. I didn't know of this change.
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24.5s on the diesels
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Go to the PPL rule book , our class rules start on page 63. The OEM rule has been there since the class started in the late 90's
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Not saying that Cummins is bad. Just saying our OEM rules sometimes will not allow that application with out board approval first. And don't see that rule going away.
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Badger State has a llss running oliver 1850 with a Perkins. I call that innovation . Putting a Cummins in i call easy.
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OK , So then the component question? If OEM conformity is broken, does the IH tractors running Cummins become a component tractors because they never fit in 300 and 400 series rear ends
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If Cummins was use only in them tractors, then why is everyone wanting to use them in tractors them don't belong in ?
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If you want a Cummins. You will have to get board approval. Cummins may fit everything, but is not factory replacement for some brands of tractors. I think white is the only one
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No on the 470 cubes. As for the tires, we would like if everyone run 24.5s , but are letting the aklys run 30.5 because of the weight difference
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National Rules are fine. But don't expect clubs to change there rules just because there's work for them
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Since we're a state member with PPL. What happens if they like what they see and adopt there own rules? Where will the National Rules stand?
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To sinking ship, Missouri and Western New York have weight difference between certain engine cubes and tire size. Look at there rules
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I really don't attack other people, but thanks anyway
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Question , how many plan on running Badger State? I see so many complaints how this and that's not fair. How many have tried the weight difference? Let's keep in mind that we are trying this with no difference in chargers.
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Diesel will be 6500# and aklys at 6250# all with smooth bore 3 by 4 charger. We are trying this for the 2017 season, if it dont work it will be changing. Secondly are class never had a 3.6 charger rule
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The diesels weight will 6500# and aklys at 6250# all will run smooth bore 3 by 4 chargers. That's what we are trying for the 2017 season . If it dont work we will change for the betterment of the class . Second are class never had a 3.6 charger rule
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So tell me more, what leaks. You all complained we didn't have Alcohol Tractors, we added them . And now you what more ? Really
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Badger State rules are set in December at the banquet. So the rules that were set are what we run . So if something needs changing , will not happen until the banquet after the 2017 season.
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We had the decubing rules passed as well. So 400 series can go in 656 rear. As for Cummins , has to be approved by are board . The board wants OEM conformity
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Who is in charge of writing the National Rules?
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The rules approved by the board is, 370 cubes , 3by 4 smooth bore, no electric enhancements, OEM conformity, 30.5 tires and 6250 # .
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We hope it is Ed, just hope there's enough tractors in the area to support all season .
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Sorry was a misprint, 370
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360 aklys will be added to are class. 3 by 4 smooth bore charger. More rules will be up on website in a few weeks
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Ed, I am not asking it to be 6500 for a National rule. 6250 is good , because if take a go to some of these pull that you promote, I want to know what were pulling at. If state club wants a different weight ,so be it . I want all the LLSS pullers to be able to pull on a National Circuit
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What year? did they have roll cages ? If I remember as a kid a lot pulled at that weight, then safety equipment was implement .
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To the original question about National Rules. There are so many different state rules for this LLSS class, Western New York, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, Missouri, Indiana and Kentucky. Most have the same engine rules, but all run different weights. So why is 6000 a choice weight ? only mostly in Kentucky. A lot of the others are 6400 and few 6500 , a 6700 . We need a common weight in a Na
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Which rules are you building for? If I took the intercooler off an put 30.5s on and run a dry block i could easily make 6000 . So what charger you going to give me at 410 to keep up
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