EPA and diesel pulling
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Registered: 08/26/2019 Posts: 26 |
Just putting this question out there because I believe it could be a real possibility with our current government . With all the hype about green new deal and eliminating fossil fuels this would basically end tractor pulling. Especially the diesel classes Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/15/2020 01:06PM by Dick Morgan. |
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day later
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Exhaust filters are all the rage for ONROAD equipment these days, or ELECTRIC PULLING,there you go! |
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Registered: 03/19/2018 Posts: 664 |
I somewhat share the concern, but that is such a small fraction of the diesels out there. It's really all about money. They know they can go after offroad construction equipment or farm equipment or onroad stuff and get far more repeat offenders that will generate revenue.
A previous employer was checked out for EPA violating equipment on site or for sale. Nothing was found because we got away from that stuff seeing the writing on the wall. The two exceptions to that were a deleted truck in for service completely unrelated to those parts (we were instructed to document it and not touch it. If we did, we had to put stock stuff back. He acknowledged that there are plenty of deleted trucks out that would come in for service not tied to those items) and the race truck in plain sight on a lift. It clearly wasn't street legal so he didn't even look at it. Anecdotal and a one-time encounter, but that was how it was handled. They're shopping, they're not not trying to change the world. CP |
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Registered: 02/08/2014 Posts: 406 |
Yea before the emissions police get a breath of diesel from it. LOL. It's like you don't say the" B" word on a plane. |
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J BeGone
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Why bring it up. When it happens if it ever does then it can be a topic.This is the last thing anyone wants to talk about especially at these times. You never know who wants to be the next big name. |
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Rod
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Just let that dog sleep!!!!!! Best thing is to not even talk about it on the web!!! |
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consider this
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It is one thing when the cool rollers do it on a pulling track. But when they do it on the street / road and blow that volumous stream of highly noxious black smoke into my road vehicle interior air ventiliation system (without any warning), that is a complete violation. And I am enraged at the pure idiot!!!!!!! The cops & EPA need to bust said person butt big time! |
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Trucker
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I know an ol boy who was out with his wife one Friday night last summer and some local boy blew his "coal" into the the older fellows Cadillac to point he couldn't see to drive. Long story short the ol boy hauls slurry and knew who the boy was and saw his coal roller sitting in parking lot in town one day with the windows left down and pumped him a good dose of slurry in his cab and left him a note that he should cease blowing smoke in peoples vehicles. He said the boy tamed down his coal rolling after that. Carma is really tough sometimes. |
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Moderator Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 1,446 |
I can't believe that tractor and truck pulling is going to be in jeopardy. There are way to many other things that they are going to be fixated on, and pulling in middle America is not one of them . And besides the gears in Washington turn at about 2 RPMs so I would not spend to many sleepless nights over it. My bigger concern is the OEM tractor and truck manufacturers starting to limit how their products can be modified for pulling. It seems like there is more and more concern about how their products are used. Dick Morgan www.PULLOFF.com Independent Pulling News Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/16/2020 04:54AM by Dick Morgan. |
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Admin Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,526 |
If you don't want to talk about it then please feel free to not post on the thread. It's a very simple to ignore a thread (yet some people really struggle with the concept). Also, there clearly are people who do want to talk about it and speculate about it. They have that right and I doubt many pro-Green New Deal politicians are going to change their stance or push harder for it based on a discussion on a small tractor pulling forum. This sport is a tiny fish in a giant ocean. As far as speculation is concerned, most of the internet is speculation so if speculation bothers you, you may want to discontinue use of the ole interwebs. To everyone/anyone on this page, please don't tell people what they should or should not talk about. If nobody wants to talk about a topic then it will get no responses, if people want to talk about a topic then people will respond. It's kind of like a capitalist system for comments and question. Don't be a socialist and tell us what's best for us to talk about. As for me... I agree with cpr, they will have their hands full with the regular channel for on and off-road diesel engines. Sure motorsports are on some of the extremists lists (pretty much anything that produces "pollution" is on their list) but I'd guess our motorsport is pretty far down. I think by the time the EPA gets to this motorsport we'll have much bigger problems to deal with. I honestly don't know if that's optimist thinking or pessimistic. Just my $.02 Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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off topic forum
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This seems like an appropriate topic to move to the off topic forum.
Where depressing things are discussed. |
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Puller 8
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Off topic forum, how do think this is an off topic post? Especially when OP is directly speaking of the sport of tractor pulling!! As Jake has expressed in his contribution to this thread, if you are depressed or do not like the topic, then please by all means past it by and don't click on it! Not to hard to figure out! |
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Registered: 04/04/2008 Posts: 631 |
They may go after the black smoke but in reality the hauling of the pullers to and from the events is likely more of an issue than the few seconds a tractor goes down the track.
S'no Farmer |
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Roadkill
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Not that I want to see the diesel smoke go away but there needs to be evolution..Just like everything else.. Turbos, pumps, blocks, tires.... Once I figure out how much battery power I need to power (2) GE 788FS10 wheel motors, it's on..All the big haul trucks and loaders are already there.. Maybe an exhibition pull.. EVOLUTION!!!! |
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My Opinion
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As long as Europe is having pulls we are OK... |
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Registered: 10/30/2018 Posts: 749 |
Biden Harris and Polosi have probably never heard of or seen a tractor pull if they ever did it could be bad one run of a SS diesel down the track probably pollutes more than a 81 Peterbilt does running 5000 miles |
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Registered: 04/03/2016 Posts: 772 |
Any idea where some one could get some illegal DEF? UREA!!!!! |
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Registered: 03/19/2018 Posts: 664 |
Even at 10mpg (which the '81 Pete wouldn't get) it would burn 500 gallons of diesel. I don't know how you'd get 5 gallons to equal that in particulates out the stack. The math for them to come after pulling just doesn't work either in terms of generating revenue for the federal government (they are trying to do this) or having a lasting environmental impact.
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Moderator Registered: 03/27/2008 Posts: 1,149 |
I would basically agree on that. But - we just had a nice statement from a state jury here: ""The "simple prevention of pleasures that can only be judged subjectively" is not a legitimate aim of state action."" And, here the German, as well as the Dutch associations, have banned fossil fuel in their Diesel classes now. This is simply possible because you can buy "synthetic" Diesel now, made from waste and wind power, and many teams already used it before, as it makes more power than fossil fuel and burns cleaner. It's already used as a 10 % addition to "premium" diesel here (while the low cost diesel has 7 % RME "bio" diesel blended in). It still smokes, but that CO2 discussion is over with and it leaves the tree huggers with no arguments. [www.aspendiesel.com] or [www.etipbioenergy.eu] Floating Finish - the German Tractor Pulling Web Show and EU Live Streams: [www.youtube.com] Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/20/2020 10:06PM by Sascha. |
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Registered: 03/12/2010 Posts: 405 |
Burn straight Soy Oil, that not a fossil fuel. |
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Registered: 12/07/2020 Posts: 10 |
Well us pullers that are farmers have no problem just use your carbon credits instead of selling them to someone else to use to do the same thing. We control the new green deal . |
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