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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,526 |
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,526 |
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Registered: 03/25/2008 Posts: 2,526 |
So you're saying that the other DSS make more torque than Ross (that's why Ross beats them?). But he beats the Alky tractors too (does that mean they make more torque than Ross too?). So torque is bad? Torque in the LSS is even worse in your opinion?
I'd guess that Triple Bypass makes WAY more torque than ALL the alky tractors and is in the very top tier of the DSS class (if not the top dog). Kudos to them that they don't let that huge disadvantage of too much torque slow them down  Jake Morgan Owner, PULLOFF.COM Independent Pulling News This page is a free service. The cost is covered out of my pocket. It takes a great deal of time and a fair amount of money to keep this website going. Donations for: photos, classified ads, forum discussion, etc... are appreciated. Side Note: We are no longer accepting PayPal donations. They have changed their terms of service and stated they would fine PayPal users for spreading "misinformation" and "hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory". PayPal did not provide definitions for some of these vague terms. Woke corporate policies regarding "misinformation" could result in an automatic fine of $2,500 which would have been removed directly from the customer’s PayPal account. PayPal did backdown from some of their policies but quietly implemented portions of them in later terms of service. A financial institute has no right to monitor social media accounts or speech. This is unacceptable and I'll no longer do business with PayPal. |
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There definitely needs to be more smoke in LSS. Nothing gets the crowd going like an alcohol vrs smoke rivalry. This will make the class easier to sell and promote. Probably sell more beer and get people coming back. In turn growing the sport. All greath things!
Diesel tractors are definitely at a disadvantage. Ross's are the only tractor to run on kill all season and have no major issues. And they really have it figured out! Congratulations to them for sure. There are other smokers that run with Ross's from time to time but they don't live that long. The Ross team is not the average or normal smoker. To say every diesel out there runs as good as them and holds together as good as they do would be a lie. Alcohol tractors do have breakage but not as much as a smoker making the same power. Smokers definitely make much much more torque and slightly less horsepower than an alcohol. The driveability of an alcohol and tunability is a major advantage. The alcohol motor can be tuned with ignition, boost, and fuel to come off the line with limited power and not over power the tires. This helps them put their power to the ground and get things moving. Then when they are hooked up they can RPM out. Alcohol motor will turn much more RPMs than a smoker. A smoker needs to be lit to come off the line and stay running. You can run the throttle to try and modulate the power on a smoker. But it's not something you can tune into the motor. All in all the torque advantage hurts a diesel. Especially in LSS where putting the power to the ground is key along with keeping your front end down. The next absolute major advantage is weight. A smoker motor can make some jaw dropping numbers on the dyno. But then weigh each motor side by side. Smokers components need to weigh more due to their cylinder pressures. You can not use a stock block on a smoker. You need aftermarket re cast thicker blocks. Then tie the thicker blocks together. No aluminum rods in a smoker. No aluminum heads on a smoker. You need bridge iron for rods to handle the pressure. Also billet cranks. Solid wrist pins. Smokers build all of this cylinder pressure because they need to. The piston is still on its compression stroke with 300+ pounds of boost when it injects all of the fuel into the combustion chamber. That makes a huge pressure spike while the piston is still moving up. An alcohol motor does not run the advanced timing or boost levels that a diesel does. But it doesn't have to and it can not. A diesel does need to run this extreme boost and timing to make similar power as an alcohol. With the alcohol motor weighing so much less to make similar power you can not put all of that weight on the nose of the tractor on a diesel. Front end weight is key on a LSS. If you can not keep your front end down on a LSS you have to lower your hitch. And give up traction. I do not think any DSS team other than Ross's could think of attempting this and be 100% even. And it would take a pile of very expensive parts to get the weight savings on the chassis to even up the playing field getting the front end to stay down. And once the chassis weight savings technology was there an alcohol tractor could literally do the same thing and the smoker would be at a disadvantage when they had it. This is just my opinion. I do not claim to know everything. This is just what I have observed over the years. I do think we definitely need to get smoke mixed back into the top tier super stock classes. We need to get the rest of the smokers to be more reliable. And there should be a weight advantage in LSS. If smokers were dead even or had an advantage why have they all left OSS and LSS? Thanks for letting me voice my opinion! 
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Triple bypass has had some major failures just like the rest of the top DSS. They just get it fixed quickly. The top 8 or so DSS in the country can be shuffled together any day at any track. Only a few of them have the crazy impressive looking hook as they are going down the track. As much as it would be nice to see some smoke added back into a class, it’s not going to happen likely. Is it worth messing with a setup to compete in that class? And to build one for the class? The thought of it just cost me $10. Hell just run with the SSO and not change much and have a hell of a chance to win. |
