$4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 21, 2022 03:41PM
I am located in east central Illinois by 74 and Indiana state line. Our local association Iliana tractor pullers does not have a 4.1 class. To help them gain traction with this I’d like to do a large cash prize winner take all mid August for $4k. How many limited pros would be interested in this.

pull October 21, 2022 11:34PM
When would that be in august

Re: pull October 22, 2022 01:39AM
I think middle they might move it july 10th

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 22, 2022 05:32AM
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To help them gain traction with this I’d like to do a large cash prize winner take all mid August for $4k.

So if you get 20 of the the biggest & baddest 4.1s in the Midwest there, one would go home with $4k and the other 19 would go home empty handed, correct?

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 22, 2022 06:57AM
Yes, we may do little more for top 3 but would be some fuel money. This is how spring car racing has seemed to work in the past. Top place pays big and #2 & #3 basically gets some fuel money. Normally 2nd place down at a none PPL pull doesn’t pay that great anyways.

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 22, 2022 07:46AM
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Yes, we may do little more for top 3 but would be some fuel money. This is how spring car racing has seemed to work in the past. Top place pays big and #2 & #3 basically gets some fuel money. Normally 2nd place down at a none PPL pull doesn’t pay that great anyways.

I wish you luck, but I would doubt that will draw more than a few tractors. You would probably have a better draw splitting that $4,000 three or four ways. Like say $2000, $1000, $600, $400.

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 22, 2022 08:40AM
Didn't someone have a Pro Stock class like this a year or two ago that was basically the same way? Huge money for first and pennies for the rest? For those with a better memory than me how did that go?

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 22, 2022 09:00AM
Most imca dirt races I have raced at payed $50 tow fee just for showing up. Also have went to several with $5,000 to $10,000 to win the A main. Just for comparison. Good luck hope you get a good turn out of 4.1s

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 22, 2022 12:55PM
So much negativity, and nay sayers being so anti successful, how about putting on promoting and funding your own pulls for profit and joy, if you all know it ALL !!! Good Luck to any and all that take on the job, work and task to have a venue that invites pullers of any sort.

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 23, 2022 03:39AM
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billee,
So much negativity, and nay sayers being so anti successful, how about putting on promoting and funding your own pulls for profit and joy, if you all know it ALL !!! Good Luck to any and all that take on the job, work and task to have a venue that invites pullers of any sort.

He asked for feedback, and I don't see anything hateful. People think a format like that is unlikely to draw a good class of tractors, which is definitely a possibility.

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 23, 2022 03:27AM
Finish A-Main B-Main
1 $3,000 –
2 $1,300 –
3 $1,000 –
4 $775 –
5 $660 $100
6 $550 $100
7 $500 $100
8 $450 $100
9 $425 $100
10 $410 $100
11 $390 $100
12 $375 $100
13 $350 $100
14 $325 $100
15 $325 $100
16 $320 $100
17 $315 $100
18 $310 $100
19 $300 $100
20 $300 $100

Total $12,380 $1,600
Tow Money – $50

This is Attica Raceway Park’s weekly payout for normal shows…more than half of the shows have extra money. If you are talking about sprintcar racing…that is not how it works. I don’t understand when these shows pop up and put huge money to win and is horrible money or how you were talking at first no money for anyone else. Also alot of pulls that post a big purse have huge entry fees and really makes it nothing more than a normal payout pretty much. I think all pulls for Regional and National classes should be paid back 10 spots at least.

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 22, 2022 02:35PM
Pull near here had a $5,000 winner take all pro stock diesel truck class a year or so ago. Limited entries to 20 trucks. Limit wasn’t necessary- they got 5.

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 23, 2022 05:52AM
Just curious with your statement, was their something else they did wrong running that pull? Or do you really think people just don't like pulling for money?

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 23, 2022 06:56AM
Pulling for money???
People don’t like pulling when most people go home with no money. Most people have a long drive for only 1 vehicle to go home with money…winner take all is a terrible purse/payout format. Go out and get more sponsorship money and maybe charge $1-$2 more for admission to bump up payouts throughout the field.

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 23, 2022 07:06AM
Yes the take all is not good. Definitely need to pay out something to everyone that shows up. But $5,000 should be the standard for a win in almost all classes. For the money and time invested i just don't understand why anybody leaves home for less.

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 24, 2022 07:41AM
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Your right.
Yes the take all is not good. Definitely need to pay out something to everyone that shows up. But $5,000 should be the standard for a win in almost all classes. For the money and time invested i just don't understand why anybody leaves home for less.

Maybe because it's fun? Yes, winning money helps, but the experience back in the pits and on the track as most pullers know is better than the payout.

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 24, 2022 08:31AM
If you have to spend 200k plus just to have fun then I feel sorry for you.

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 23, 2022 02:46PM
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Chip42
Pulling for money???
People don’t like pulling when most people go home with no money. Most people have a long drive for only 1 vehicle to go home with money…winner take all is a terrible purse/payout format. Go out and get more sponsorship money and maybe charge $1-$2 more for admission to bump up payouts throughout the field.


Since you are not registered I can't give you a thumbs up but I do agree with you!

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 23, 2022 02:59PM
My point is that the guys who knew the stars would all have to align perfectly for them to have any chance at winning stayed home, instead of showing up and having a shot at a check for a finish of 5th or 6th. If all pulls were winner take all the classes would ONLY have the guys with unlimited budgets pulling. Nobody pulls for the prize money, but everybody likes to take a check home.

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 23, 2022 12:56PM
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Pull near here had a $5,000 winner take all pro stock diesel truck class a year or so ago. Limited entries to 20 trucks. Limit wasn’t necessary- they got 5.

If you are talking about the Oquawka FFA pull, I know for a fact that the winner of the $5K paid out some of his winnings to the other 4 trucks that hooked that evening.

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 23, 2022 03:01PM
Yes, that is the pull I was referring to. I did not know he did that. Good that he did, but unless they worked that out in advance there was no expectation that more than one puller was going to get a check.

Re: $4,000 winner take all 4.1 limited pro pull 2023 October 23, 2022 03:04PM
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I am located in east central Illinois by 74 and Indiana state line. Our local association Iliana tractor pullers does not have a 4.1 class. To help them gain traction with this I’d like to do a large cash prize winner take all mid August for $4k. How many limited pros would be interested in this.


Since your local association does not have that class who is going to insure that class? Just asking.

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