11:41:15am, Monday, April 29, 2024
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Ben Dover
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I heard that there is a meeting at the farm show. Does anyone no what its about |
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Moderator Registered: 07/06/2008 Posts: 1,347 |
What is the best turbo size and cubes for LLSS. |
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Fitz
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Does anyone know when the big meeting is going to happen. I heard that there's some big announcement. I think I saw one on line talking about it. |
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I think it is Jason Schultz's "Puller's Happy Hour" where pullers from all organizations are networking before the pull on Thursday. Kind of like a big social interaction. I also heard there was BIG news coming from the farm show, but based on BMPT and his facebook page, I think this was the announcement. |
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They are going to be releasing the "Big News" at this Puller's Happy Hour. Brent Yaron Hooked Up Pulling Productions hookeduppullingproductions@gmail.com |
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Chris P Bacon
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I bet I know what it is. |
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How much are you willing to bet??? |
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Reality
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I'd bet it's not as exciting news if it's what I heard. |
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BeerMoneyTV.com
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East coaster
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Rick feicht and the janoski family bought ppl ?? |
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New Owners
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Lucas
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Heard Richard Love , Ray Kauffman and Zane Rettew bought PPL. Who knows what's true. |
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Registered: 04/11/2008 Posts: 2,382 |
Actually, our website is www.beermoneypulling.com but thanks for the plug.
The Pullers Happy hour has nothing to do with Beer Money Pulling Team. They simply asked us to help promote The Puller's Happy Hour. The announcement they are making will have a big impact on the big 3 associations for overall viewership, attention and will open new doors for the sport of pulling. If you are an Outlaw, PPL or NTPA member and you will be in Louisville next Thursday sign up here. Jason Schultz Call or Text 608 604 5068 Email jason@beermoneypullingteam.com Beer Money Pulling Team Merchandise [beermoneypullingteam.com] |
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X citing
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Looking forward to seeing what this is all about. Anything that benefits all of pulling will be good. As long as it just doesn't benefit just a few people. |
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It's either a new website or a TV deal (or a combination there of). |
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That would be my guess. I am anticipating we will hear something about a streaming platform or a way to watch pulls digitally. Which is cool. However, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for some sort of bombshell like a merger across 2 or (even better) all three organizations. |
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PDT
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Is it Flo? Tell me it's a deal with Flo. |
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Registered: 12/26/2019 Posts: 43 |
I BET it's that Las Vegas will be involved with pulling in the future. |
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Moderator Registered: 03/19/2018 Posts: 664 |
Setting odds means knowing who's going to show up. Not in a million years will LV get an angle there.
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Registered: 02/08/2014 Posts: 406 |
It's going to be a whole new show next year. It's going to be a show of pre-90's tractors and classes. Classic type classes like SS, single engine mods, hot pre 1960's class and an 12000 Farm stock class. They're tired of all complaining about the rest of the 99 classes that are being run and want to be there. Let's go retro. I bet that would get a lot of the old timers out of the fan stands and back on the track. He Ha.
Oh yea good luck to all the PS's out of Pa.. Will it be a JD or Case winner? |
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Shell Answer Man
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So, what is the big news ?? |
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Odds R
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They are starting betting on pulling. |
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bet placer
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all for someone else to make money and nothing for the pullers |
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Outlaw fan
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This so called big announcement was as empty as Geraldo opening Al Capone’s vault! lol |
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LSS Fan
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Who in the world is going to be in charge of setting the betting lines for a truck/tractor pull? Can’t work and won’t work. Love gambling but just can’t see it. However I’ll be optimistic to make some money on the early stages of this! |
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About Time
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Ow it will work. When there is money to be made things get figured out and fast. If you don't like it, don't do it, simple as that. The lottery and such gambling has and always will be a form of taxing the poor and uneducated. Like it or not thats the truth. Educated and successful people don't waste money like that. But the world is full of poor and uneducated people. This will be big and someone will make lots of money from it. Whats important here is to see how much of that money trickles down to the payouts to the pullers. As for pullers betting on themselves and throwing a pull. I would assume that will be illegal just as it is in all other sports. |
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Registered: 10/10/2022 Posts: 46 |
What a nasty filthy thing to be associated with our sport. I feel like I'm being used. Please don't tell me that's OK because it isn't! |
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About Time
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Literally every other form of sporting event has this. You might not like it but you are definitely in the minority. Did you watch the super bowl? 113 million did. And 50 million bet money on it. If you want to be closed minded and think its nasty thats your right, but do not let your incompetence hinder the progress this sport needs in order to survive. |
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I guess....it's whatever
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I pretty happy to be "in the minority" as you say. Doesn't appeal to me at all and I'm fine with that.
"do not let your incompetence hinder the progress this sport needs in order to survive" How exactly is this the savior that is going to make the sport survive? Because there is literally NO explanation whatsoever that tells anyone this is helping the sport at any stage or level. I think you are slightly overstating its value to satisfy your own personal desires. |
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Press conference time
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My first reaction to this announcement was no. Seems like an answer to a question that no one asked, and I would be surpised if there is a substantial market for this. After reflecting on it a little, I'm a little more willing to hear the idea out. The logistics and variables involved in a venture like this make it seem nearly impossible to pull off. However, since I have yet to see specifics on how this will operate I won't dismiss it completely.
The first obvious question I have is what percentage of the proceeds will go back to the pullers in form of added payouts and sponsorships? Is this someone simply trying to skim a buck off the top, or someone who plans to invest any money made into growing the sport? You will have to convince the vast majority of pullers that this will be a mutually beneficial relationship for this to take off, and honestly it's going to be an uphill climb. |
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Observer
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Not sure that is the minority opinion. Reading the comments on NTPA Facebook post regarding the big announcement and a lot of folks against it. |
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Because everyone is stuck in 1970 and don’t like change. The people behind this are all in on the sport already and are trying to make a difference and a change to make the sport better. Brent Yaron Hooked Up Pulling Productions hookeduppullingproductions@gmail.com |
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Tell em thanks but no thanks. We don't need that kind of help. |
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When I bet on the superbowl, the team I bet on didn’t get a dime. Why do people think the pullers will get anything? Professional athletics, casinos, etc. are also strictly regulated. Pulling isn’t. There could be a lot of shady stuff going on with this. Definitely an interesting twist to start the season. |
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Judge
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Sounds a lot like “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” How in the world are you going to regulate this? Who will make the odds? Where will the money go? Will the pullers see any of the money? Like Vegas the Casinos don’t lose and are still standing. So who is going to make money on this??? Not to mention how in the world will you keep pullers from “throwing this?” Anyone can let off the throttle halfway down the track and say something happened. Are you gonna inspect every machine after every pull??? |
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Josh
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Wanna make a sport better publish a magazine people can look at and show there friends |
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Ihfan
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Hand picked who comes to pull and now this. Tractor pulling headed south from a spectators standpoint. |
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Registered: 09/23/2008 Posts: 632 |
don't know where it fits but we have already had gambling in pulling, anyone ever participate in the calcutta at gordyville, i doubt i partake of this but let those that do pour that money out, i spend more than i should on this sport don't c how i can put any in this with no more details than have been released |
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About Time
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For those so extremely against this please explain how this changes anything in you life if you just simply choose not to partake in any gambling. I personally think gambling is a complete waste. I also understand lots of people like it. I have no problem with this being available for those people. Why is that such a hard concept for others to grasp. |
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well said |
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Judge
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How will you regulate it? Will you inspect every vehicle when it comes off the track? Pullers and organizations can’t even agree on common rules among the same classes?! Anyone who would bet on this sport is just pissing away their money and giving it to others. |
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About Time
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Its called gambling. Nothing is certain and almost everyone loses. But people still enjoy doing it. So let them. If you don't like it don't do it. Why in the Fing Hell is this so hard to understand. |
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Everyone says something needs to change or new ideas need to be brought to the sport or it's going to die. Well something new was brought to the sport and now they are saying the sport is going to die. Can never win. Brent Yaron Hooked Up Pulling Productions hookeduppullingproductions@gmail.com |
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Judge
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No. You cannot provide any details as to how this will work. Maybe you’ll get some suckers like About Time that will piss away their money but in reality there is no way to regulate this. Again…..will you inspect every vehicle that comes off the track? This has no regulation compared to Pro Sports. |
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When you have to follow the laws of gambling, yes there is a way to regulate this. Brent Yaron Hooked Up Pulling Productions hookeduppullingproductions@gmail.com |
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Judge
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Vague and nothing. How in the world will you enforce this? Will you inspect every machine? Who says pullers won’t throw this? Where does the money go? Me thinks y’all didn’t expect the backlash. Good luck! Again, please tell me how this will grow the sport??? |
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I'm not involved with this at all nor am I a gambler. Again, there are laws for gambling that will be in place for this to even be legal. I'm sure they have sat down and discussed this, but you are getting all uptight about information that still has yet to be released. Maybe wait for them to release that information before dismissing it.
Now how can this grow the sport. Like people have mentioned, there's already a ton of sports betting going on. People that gamble will literally gamble on anything. This could be an avenue that they start betting on pulling and actually become interested. They could in turn bring people that currently aren't fans of the sport, but the exposure could turn them into a fan. The dominos continue to fall from there. Now that you are gaining more attention to the sport, more people are engaging with it, attending events and watching the live streams. That means potentionally more, and larger, sponsorships for the associations and teams. They are able to sell to a larger audience which is what sponsors want. They want their brand out there. As it comes to how does it benefit the pullers? Well like I said, more sponsorships mean that more dollars are going into the year end points funds. It could potentially mean the promoters are able to find more sponsorship dollars, have larger crowds, etc so they might stick more into the purse money for their event. The last thing is that this group plans to do is take money made from the sports betting and give back to the associations where money is to be allocated to the points fund as well. If you can't find any potential upside to what this COULD bring to pulling then you are just looking at this blindly and have already decided that gambling is bad and this is only going to hurt the sport. What I see from this is a potential to gain new fans to the sport of pulling. If we gain event a couple thousand from what they are trying to do then I see that as a win. It's not going to be a success over night, but I can see the vision of what they are trying to sell here. The worst thing that comes from this is it does flop, and it doesn't work out the way it's intended. Then they just shut it down and call it an attempt to help grow the sport. I'm excited to see what comes next from this and the potential POSITIVE impact it can have on the sport. Brent Yaron Hooked Up Pulling Productions hookeduppullingproductions@gmail.com Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/16/2023 03:36PM by Brent Yaron. |
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Judge
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Appreciate the honesty. I’m all for growing the sport. Call me skeptical, but I’ll agree to disagree that this will grow the sport. Sure, some folks will bet on it. I just can’t see it growing into anything meaningful. Full confession, I actively gamble on pro sports now that it has become legal in my state. I’m just dumbfounded as to how this can be regulated. Any puller can drive out of bounds or let off the throttle and claim something happened or it was broke. Such a gray area. |
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I can understand the concerns that people have with regulating it. They stated they started this back in 2021 so I am sure they have gone through a lot of "what if" scenarios. I believe there are ways to make it fair. I would go as far as if you are involved with the sport, a competitor in this case, that you can't bet using this app. Should be fairly simple to track considering the information it takes to sign up for any sports betting app or website. Brent Yaron Hooked Up Pulling Productions hookeduppullingproductions@gmail.com |
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About Time
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Ok so Mr. Judge admits hes an active gambler but has a problem with how this will be regulated. Maybe you have a problem. 1 800 bets off dude. As for regulating it and controlling people holding back and effecting the results. Have you ever been to the Kentucky Derby. All the concerns you have would also apply to horse racing and thats one of the biggest places to go and gamble. It will all work out and be just fine. |
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If done right this shouldn't be brain surgery it's just like NASCAR! Once again you have to understand betting there should be odds to win and that's it! You have to understand PLUS BETS and the odds! There will be no odds for 2nd 3rd 4th etc etc ! In a nutshell bet on a tractor to win and thats it |
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Judge
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Ok. Please set the odds and pick the top vehicles in Louisville tomorrow. Only 1st place finishers |
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once again you don't get the gambling thing you can't set odds because it's early 2023 pulling season ! That means there is not enough hooks to set a line to bet on! Eventually there will be a money line to go by and if people don't understand that lingo then GOOGLE it ! |
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Judge
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You are a jackass. It’s NFMS Championship Tractor Pull. Last time I checked the Casinos didn’t set odds because it was early in a season! @#$%& off |
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Could be that this is more of a fantasy style of betting like with Fanduel and Draft Kings. Pick five pullers and earn points based on how they do. They also do this with dirt track racing with Dirt Draft but it's not betting with currency. Brent Yaron Hooked Up Pulling Productions hookeduppullingproductions@gmail.com |
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That actually makes a lot of sense good for everybody! |
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The way I see it is. Me personally I spend all my extra money on pulling as it is. I can't justify spending anymore on betting. I don't see anyone who isn't already watching pulling spending money on betting on pulling. So the only question I have is where is the money going? If it does trickle down to the pullers great. If not this this is a very bad thing. Gordon Cox For The Love Of Pulling [www.facebook.com] [fortheloveofpulling.godaddysites.com] |
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Registered: 02/27/2022 Posts: 3 |
What's the real thing that's being bet on? How much longer is pulling actually going to last? |
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Nothing like a good ole moral issue to see what your character is and what others are really made of. I'm glad I was raised right. |
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About Time
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Drake please elaborate on your being raised right. Being completely against somthing just because you personally don't like it and forcing that opinion on others would not be what i consider being raised right. Excepting we all have different opinions beliefs likes and dislikes and letting others live their own lives how they see fit would be a much better example of being raised right. Just my opinion. And I bet I sleep better tonight not trying to control others. Ow did i say bet? I guss that makes me immoral in your eyes lol |
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Awesome deal!! For everyone one bitching about it, it's quite simple don't bet on it then ! Every sport in the world has legalized gambling placed on it!! This will bring different eyes and different people into the sport that normally would give two @#$%& less about it!! I myself enjoy gambling and I will be the first to place a bet when the opportunity presents itself! You will never change the GOOD OLD BOYS MIND ever ever ! Great job with moving pulling forward well done!! |
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Judge
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Please explain to me how this will bring different eyes to the sport??? |
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You have to understand gambling and sportsbooks first and that is not me being a smart ass! Why do you think 70 million people bet on the super bowl? It is not because 70 million people are professional gamblers it's because of the intrigue and the fun and thrill of it! Just the idea of having something different to bet on will bring more eyes and more people to the sport! |
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Judge
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Do you really think Vegas or anything remotely will be promoting this!??? LMFAO. You’ll be lucky to get a few thousand bettors. As I type that, even that’s a stretch. Comparing pulling to the Super Bowl is just plain ludicrous. |
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I am pretty sure I did not compare pulling to the super bowl!! The betting aspect is a good twist and it's something new! I think it will be fun and interesting! Tractor pulling has to try something new hell even the GOOD OLD BOYS of NASCAR realized it and are trying different things! Nascar ran that race at the Coliseum and dirt track at Bristol! Once again I applaud the efforts to try something new and fun in pulling |
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Judge
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You said 70 million people bet on the Super Bowl. How many do you think will bet on pulling? And you didn’t answer the question….how will this grow pulling?? More eyes on it is a stretch. Why would Joe from Philly want to bet on pulling when he has sports he’s watched on tv and played as a kid want to bet on pulling???? |
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NTPA, PPL, and Outlaws are all on board. They were all there. Www.fullpullbets.com. See for yourself. Don’t know how it will work but they said it’s been in the works for two years. If they run it as well as they kept the mouths shut it might have a chance. |
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Registered: 04/04/2008 Posts: 630 |
It's odd but the first thing that crossed my mind as a puller is some devious gamber sabotaging tractors in the pits. Betting on a less competitive tractor then causing issues with the more competitive tractors. Yeah I know it's an unlikely scenario but not out of the realm of possibility. We as pullers don't really worry about leaving our stuff unattended in the pits. There are several things a person could do in 30 seconds to ruin a pass down the track. Leaving things unattended could change if this betting thing takes off. I don't gamble and could care less about it in the pulling world, I gamble plenty just going down the track at each event...what will blow up and cost me thousands today!!!??? Just a weird thought I had about the betting on pulling.
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If I'm following this right, there was supposed to be a big announcement at farm show but it was already on Facebook ? I'm agree with Todd, pullers usually aren't worried about leaving the competition vehicle alone for all to see particularly the fans walking the pits, but got a feeling that will all change if all this betting is true. |
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Lenny Kirby
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I don't see this ending well. There is enough cheating going on in the sport. Pulling is enough of a vice on it's own, why add another vice on top of it? I'm all for growing the sport. I'd say we all are. Guess I have a bit of a devious mind but there is so much illegal shenanigans involved in LEGAL gambling. I am not morally against gambling, I just think you might be being a little naive. Maybe I am wrong time will tell. |
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huh?
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Nobody has stated who is promoting this 'tractor pulling gambling' scheme. So who is it?
What sanctioned pulling organizations will embrace this? |
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Registered: 01/19/2010 Posts: 260 |
This is like a Church needing money asking an atheist to donate tons of money and asking them to run the Church. Our morals are being attacked a little at a time a little here a little there. The problem isn't gambling, the problem is most people think its a good thing. 
Ed Vinkemeier Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/2023 01:00AM by farmall's forever. |
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LSS Fan
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I’m not sure if I just threw up from being hungover from Louisville or if it’s from reading comments from the morality police. Get a life. Pullers spending $500k on a tractor to win $500 and that okay but somehow it’s immoral to bet on a pull. Go buy the preacher another jet. |
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Fan 2
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The sinner you see in the mirror is the one you give account for, not the one on TV! |
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Doug Borth
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Tune in tonight Monday Feb 20 at 8pm central on Let's Grow Pulling for more details |
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