Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 25, 2023 05:59AM
So... how much difference in horsepower is there between a 4.1 LPS, 5.0 PS, and a regular Pro Stock?

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 25, 2023 07:13AM
1- the pro stock 6+turbo&cooler-4500hp
2-5.0 pro stock-3500hp
3-4.1 pro stock-2500hp
4-3.0 8500 limited pro-1500hp

These are real numbers give or take a few hp but very accurate to go by

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 25, 2023 08:11AM
Those numbers are all low

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 25, 2023 08:54AM
is the spread between classes close?

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 25, 2023 09:04AM
No BBailey there not you prolly have not worked on any engines in n any tractors have you? I also stated give or take some so stay on the keyboard

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 25, 2023 11:56AM
And your bona fides are what? Cc means nothing to anyone. Stay off the keyboard.

CP

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 25, 2023 12:08PM
Cc you are correct I couldn’t change the blinker fluid in a muffler bearing without watching a you tube video first , BUT I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night!

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 27, 2023 01:53AM
Cc, your average’s with exception to the 466 class are about right for mid pack tractors hp wise. For instance you are 500 low on prostocks and 300 or better low on 4.1’s.
Probably what triggered CP….

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 25, 2023 09:12AM
agreed those numbers are low

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 25, 2023 09:37AM
Then tell us what’s the “real numbers” let me guess big pros are making 6500 hp right let’s see a dyno sheet of each one since you all know so much but won’t say anything

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 25, 2023 09:43AM
No reason to get upset your just off on ur numbers

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 25, 2023 01:46PM
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Cc
1- the pro stock 6+turbo&cooler-4500hp
2-5.0 pro stock-3500hp
3-4.1 pro stock-2500hp
4-3.0 8500 limited pro-1500hp

These are real numbers give or take a few hp but very accurate to go by

Those hp numbers are real close to what I've been told by several pullers that own one..

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 25, 2023 12:41PM
NO ONE answered if his spread was correct.
I'm saying he is right on with the power spread.
I'm also saying he is giving REAL WORLD numbers on a correctly set dyno, not one "Adjusted" to give inflated numbers to impress the customer that just paid over a quarter million for an engine.
ALSO, the spread is why at ALL NTPA GN pulls, MINIMUM turbo size in the GN P.S. class needs to be 5.1"

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 25, 2023 01:07PM
What is your reasoning for wanting minimum turbo size in GN PS? Not disagreeing, just wondering. Do you feel they slow the show down? Is the class too big because of all the so called “class filler”tractors with no chance? Do you think they screw the road that gets built sometimes and the rest of the class is bogged? Or do you just like the newer Mini rule where there is a minimum to pull GN.

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock, to; jerk my chain September 25, 2023 05:53PM
All of your points are valid.
The crowd doesn't pay to watch class fillers.
There is no dispute that the short horsepower tractors needlessly tear up the track. Examples are the 4.1's at BG spinning holes in the track at 200, when real pro stocks are spinning in at 340+.

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 25, 2023 12:56PM
1400 will catch most 8500's

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 26, 2023 01:25AM
I would say Cc is very close. Shelton's posted a ride along video from one of their pulls saying 4500HP.
I would say a true LT. Pro stock would be in the 27-2800 +/- neighborhood maybe? that's based off of what I've been told from a very strong running Lt Pro stock puller from OSTPA. Thats with a Red Riverside engine as well. Winking

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 26, 2023 04:50AM
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1206 prostock
I would say Cc is very close. Shelton's posted a ride along video from one of their pulls saying 4500HP.
I would say a true LT. Pro stock would be in the 27-2800 +/- neighborhood maybe? that's based off of what I've been told from a very strong running Lt Pro stock puller from OSTPA. Thats with a Red Riverside engine as well. Winking
I will agree the 27-2800 is likely the most of the "True Light Pros" however I know some elite light pros that are north of 3000. Just sayin.

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 26, 2023 11:02AM
Well CP my comments about Hp have quite a bit of back up comments looks to me like I was right? Like I said these are real number from real engines on a real dyno ..if you only knew what you thought you knew Winking

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 26, 2023 10:12PM
The old saying goes " if you could buy him for what he's worth and sell him for what he thinks he's worth you'd be set."

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 26, 2023 11:48PM
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Cc
..if you only knew what you thought you knew Winking



I think bigC littlec is a federal government employee Grinning

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 27, 2023 04:58AM
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Cc
I work for the IRS SO LETS GO BIDEN LOL

I can smell them out from a mile away,.......................Smoking

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 27, 2023 05:37AM
How did I know this thread was going to be a crap show before I opened it? LOL

The true answer is "Never Enough!" Smiling

Re: Horsepower difference - 4.1, 5.0, and true Pro Stock September 27, 2023 06:05AM
Doesn't matter how much any of them make, who kares, just enjoy the ride, figure out the balance, weights gears, drive the darned thing, highest power does not mean always winning.

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