green profarm December 09, 2010 02:34PM
Wanting to build a green light pro farm 7500 lbs. will a 4320 trans hold up or should i use a 4230 and can i get ether one light enough.

Re: green profarm December 10, 2010 01:15AM
They are the same rear end. 4320 has heavier pinion shaft brg though.

Re: green profarm December 10, 2010 02:47AM
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Re: green profarm December 10, 2010 11:21AM
if your making much power a stock trans wont last very long no matter what you use. 4020,4010 stuff seems to be more popular.

Re: green profarm December 10, 2010 12:50PM
You can lots of beefing up to a 4320 trans plus use the pto half gear set up

Re: green profarm December 10, 2010 02:04PM
Actually all the tractor you mentioned have the same rear except the 4010 has a little lighter duty shfts I believ but the 4020, 4320, 4230 are all the same rear and tranny.

Re: green profarm December 11, 2010 01:30AM
4320 and 4230 are a little heavier built than 4020. Only a few select parts swap between 4020 and 4320/4230, and 4010 has only a few that are universal as well (mostly synchros, shift collars and such). All gears are slightly thicker/heavier from 4010 to 4020 (4020 trans case is about 1" longer than 4010), and like wise from 4020 to 4320/4230.

If you are cranking much HP at all, you will want to go with straight cut gears for sure. Using the PTO gears to make a half gear works, but if you are going that far, you should do it right and have a full custom three speed trans made. You will thank yourself later if you intend to keep the tractor and move up the ranks with it.



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Re: green profarm December 11, 2010 01:57AM
If it was mine I wouldnt screw around. The 3 speed setup is the way to go. As you move up in years come. To change out the constent mest gears takes only 2 hours. Once you install it you wont have to look at it. Also I would needle out the ring right away and be done with it.

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Re: green profarm December 11, 2010 05:58AM
Make sure u are sitting down when u ask what a 3 speed costs.

Re: green profarm December 11, 2010 06:55AM
Ball park cost on just a straight cut single gear set? Complete 3-4 speed to drop in a 4010-4020 case? Would it be better to use a 4630 two speed case? Just looking to understand what works/can be done.

Re: green profarm December 11, 2010 12:39PM
profab 3 speed $5000. the best out there far as i'm concerned. and larry puts it together. you break his stuff you got some big time power or your idiot.

Re: green profarm December 11, 2010 02:02PM
You would have to ask Adam but mine was about 4,000 and yes thats all straight cut gears and a big input shaft. Pretty much everything you need to put it together. WELL WORTH THE MONEY

Re: green profarm December 12, 2010 03:46AM
beckett machine @ marysville ohio also makes a 3 speed trans. for a sbjd some where about 4500.00 scott beckett

Re: green profarm December 12, 2010 04:36AM
I think everyone is getting away from what I was asking. This is a 7500 lb class 3'' turbo no water 410cu class my question was would a 4320 with a syncro trans be better than a 4230 with a quad range trans? Can I get ether tractor to 7500 and what do I do with the clutch in the 4230 don't want to spend a lot of $$ cause this is a starter class

Re: green profarm December 12, 2010 05:35AM
I would say they would require same effort to make 7500. The 2 speed would be an advantage over a plane syncro , and it will be less money to use the wet clutch (tied together of course) than to buy a 2 disc dry clutch . The wet clutch and 2 speed should hold up fine in 7500

Re: green profarm December 13, 2010 02:26AM
I agree. Id go with the 4230. You can make a 3 disk clutch or tie the main and pto clutch together for a 4 disk. The quad range makes 1/2 gears rather than a straight 8 speed. If using the stock block, you'll have to change the block on a 4320 or have machining done to mount an a series pump. The 4230 will let an a pump bolt right on just like a 4430/4630. Which head is on the 4230, if an early one it will have pencil injectors where a later one will have kdel injectors (which are better). How much engine work will you be doing? I've heard of guys installing 55 series heads on a 404 but not sure how to do it, you have to notch sleeves for valves to come down, then I dont know how that affects your fire rings. If using the 404 block maybe just using a 30-50 series 466 head with straight style injectors and some work will be ok for now.

Re: green profarm December 12, 2010 05:35AM
are you limited to 3000 rpm? if you are you will have power issues and therefore the two speed would help you get going and go faster and therefore win more. You will run out of power but will be able to downshift and that will help. if this is what the class is then the 4230 would be better, if not then I would go to a dry clutch and spin it hard and make power that way.

Re: green profarm December 12, 2010 05:39AM
and I would agree both would be some work to get into 7500, but the 4230 would be hardest. you would have to really get after a 4230 to get in 7500 but a 4320 would be reasonable without too much effort.

Re: green profarm December 12, 2010 02:56PM
Your not going to get down to 7500 with a 4230 unless you go to a custom frame/frontend setup. this will git you close but with no movable weight. To get movable weight you would need a dry clutch 4020 clutch housing and 3 speed trans. your probably looking at around $10,000 for this to happen and thats not a starter class price tag. If your only pulling 7500 lbs class @ 3000 rpm I would go with a 4320 and install a good dry clutch from crower or hays for around $2500 and you should be if you stay at 410CID.
Good luck!

Re: green profarm December 13, 2010 01:44AM
It is not ours, but we run against two deeres with quad ranges that are close to 7500 pounds. One does have aluminum wheels on the back.

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