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They are allowed to run billet blocks that no one else in the class has been given and I’m pretty sure billet heads too. So it’s a matter of time before PPL allows everyone in the class the same thing or it will be Meese 2.0 where only one team gets and it drives everybody else away.
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The Workhorse series of tractors, otherwise known as the transition from Field Boss to Workhorse. The 2-1 series was done away with and it became the 100 series ranging from 100 to 195 models. 100-145 models had the 5.9, 160-195 had the 8.3.
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I was a very vocal doubter at first. I then took the time to call Chase and he spent a fair amount of time on the phone with me, answered questions, listened to my point of view. Here is the thing, everyone is wanting answers right now. I fell into the one pitfall I absolutely despise in this sport, became hypocritical and started to come down pretty hard on somebody putting a ton of their tim
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Has anyone in the states ran these? Good, bad? Advantages disadvantages?
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I think tractor pulling on a Grand National level can be divided into three historical eras. I would call these: First Age; Golden Age; and Modern Age. Here is how I am going to classify them.
I think the easiest way to look at each of them is by standard safety gear. This would be a reflection of how powerful the vehicles were.
1. First Age. This is the "open-faced-helmet and bl
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Would love to see it run our open super class! I agree with Green Monster as well!
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Started watching today’s session at 5:00am state side. It did not disappoint! That crowd was HUGE. What I loved the most was the variety. Variety of engine combos in the mod class and variety of color in the tractor classes. It reminded me of what pulling used to be like here in its hey day. Now our classes are all cookie cutter. Great show, will be subscribing to watch more in the future!
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So I see this as a chance for sponsorship. Team up with Pilot, Flying J, whoever as the official truck stop of the NTPA. Competitors get so much off per gallon. Sanctioning body gets to put a poster of all national events in all the truck stops and national schedules at the register. Now said truck stop has the pullers stopping in for fuel, fans stopping in for fuel and snacks for hungry kids
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WPI sets the purses. If you look at the 1985 Tomah poster that 110,000 was paid out to 16 classes over 5 sessions. In 2023 there will be 28 classes over 5 sessions. A season pass is $115, each session $25 or $45 for the day. A large part of why purses weren’t increased goes directly to the leadership of David P. He believed and as recently as his interview on Let’s Grow Pulling that pullers
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The 1983 Indy Super Pull was $9 a session and had $117,000 purse for 12 classes over 5 sessions. That averages to 9750 a class. Todays advertised purses may be more due to the fact there are 13 GN classes. I’ll share the photo with Dick so he can post flyer for 1983.
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You are correct in your math. Pullers have always accepted this is not NHRA or nascar, but the price of a pulling vehicle has gone up exponentially and the purses have regressed. This is why pulling needs a players association/union of some type. Historically pullers never stick together, always worried about their tractor and have failed to see the bigger picture, greater good.
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Can you attach the pictures? It’s not allowing me. In 1978 the purse for NTPA GN was $5,000. If you fast forward to 2023 and this is just light supers. Purse for a 2 day event is $4600, single day event is $7,000 and Super National (Tomah and BG) are $6,100 a day. If purses had kept up with inflation which averaged 3.46% a year between 1978 and 2023 purses would be in excess of $23,0000 a cl
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I have long argued that pullers need to unionize. Much like there is an NFLPA, mlb, nba etc pullers need to come together and make some demands. That leads to a previous point though that they are their own worst enemy. So what are some things that could change or be fought for. For most purse would be at the top of that list. Other things would include pit access and hauler parking. Some e
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Very well stated Michael. If we want to be taken seriously as professionals we need to present ourselves as professionals at all times. You never know who might be watching. For the sake of conversation maybe a guy has a business relationship that could lead to a sponsorship and after watching that opts out and has no interest in pulling because of how they were introduced to it. The old sayi
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The Ohio Casino Control Commission hasn’t received and application from full pull bets or full pull entertainment as of yet. When they broadened their search to see if it fell under the umbrella of a larger company such as draft kings nothing was found in their query. When they searched out farther nothing for truck or tractor pulling has been submitted to the Ohio CCC. Aside from a company ha
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So if you didn’t have the answer and consider yourself a “face” of pulling or I think your generation likes the term “influencer” give a more professional response. Like, I wasn’t at the meeting but it will be interesting to see future announcements. Give a common sense defense of why you support it, how it is going to grow pulling, put more fans in the stands etc. show the metrics of how gamb
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Brent you’re a groupie, nothing more, nothing less. Passionate about the sport, I’ll give you some credit there. If this was a huge deal why wasn’t ESPN covering it, why at minimum wasn’t local news there getting it on tv? Why at one of the biggest pulls in the world did pullers have to pay for the opportunity to hear this earth shattering announcement? I’m sick and tired of people who have n
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If this is to grow pulling, how has gambling grown horse racing, rodeo, NHRA etc? What metric was used to say this is great for the sport?
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For the life of me I don’t understand how this helps the sport of truck and tractor pulling. This isn’t going to grow pulling. Pulling is a niche market. The only people that will be on it are people who are already fans. Some guy in Vegas might get bored and place a $25.00 bet on a sport he knows nothing about but that’s not putting a but in the seat. How is it leaders of the big 3 organiza
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I had this conversation with one of the guys on the BMPT show. Pulling’s biggest problem is we keep putting band aids on rules for tractors that were built in the mid 1960’s and early 70’s. Band aids can be one of several things, biggest thing is we keep creating new classes because we won’t fix the ones that already exist. If we keep on this pace pulling will be dead or you’ll have a handful
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NTPA is a logo not its own entity is the easiest way to state it. A lot of things have been done based on history and tradition but how things used to be and how they are, are two different things. Does WPI flex very often? No, the boards have done a good job of working together. WPI is the business manager, so a very strong argument can be made that all business decisions fall upon WPI. Eve
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First moving head bolts is not a big deal. John Deere guys when they ran the hypermax head years ago were changing head bolt locations. People modify blocks all the time for pulling applications.
Second, go back an re-read the letter. The Shramek complaint is due process and democracy failed. This is a complete misunderstanding of how the organization is ran or lack of understanding. The
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Pulling doesn’t like rules that make sense! That’s probably the best post made on Llss in a long time!
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Right now the market is over saturated with pulling at ALL levels. Less is more.
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So far as of yesterday PPL pulls switching to NTPA
March truck show in Louisville
Benson, NC
Farley, IA
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I can think of a few more that I scratch my head and wonder why they are in and others aren’t. I would be in favor of 3 HOF inductees per year. One voted on by whoever the heck is doing it now, one by registered competitors and one by the fans.
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The only one that has been announced to my knowledge is Ron Barga. Two get inducted every year, I couldn’t find anything on a second announcement. If you know please share.
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