Allis ? December 03, 2011 06:29AM
What Allis engine rear end and engine combo would work for a llss. 370 cubic in 3x3 charger. Spark plugs. 6000 lbs
Thanks on advance for the info

Re: Allis ? December 03, 2011 09:23AM
180 or 190 with 301 block.

Re: Allis ? December 03, 2011 10:24AM
If you can update engines, you could decube a Detroit 40/DT 408 or Sisu.

Greg

Re: Allis ? December 03, 2011 12:26PM
Still waiting on someone to decube or destroke a 426



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Re: Allis ? December 03, 2011 02:58PM
AC 200 works good. If you need a 200 rearend I have one complete for sale. 750.00 660 828 4310 MACK

Re: Allis ? December 04, 2011 02:41AM
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AC 200 works good. If you need a 200 rearend
I have one complete for sale. 750.00 660 828 4310 MACK


Is there much difference between a 190 and 200 rear?

Re: Allis ? December 04, 2011 02:56PM
Wider bull gears and ringgear RO. is a little slower.

Re: Allis ? December 04, 2011 02:10PM
There is a gentleman who actually runs a D21 rear in the class, Doesn't have an abundance weights on the tractor but he said he done a lot of work to get it light enough. On our old 180 we was told when it started to make good power it would break axle shafts.

Re: Allis ? December 03, 2011 04:31PM
I don't know why i just thought of this, but many many years ago at a Nebraska Bush event there was a AC D21 there called the Kansas Hooker. Any chance that was your familys tractor?

Re: Allis ? December 04, 2011 12:24AM
Wouldn't a 200 rear be heavy for a 6000# tractor?

Re: Allis ? December 04, 2011 02:17AM
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Jeff Rogers (question for Todd Domann)
I don't know why i just thought of this, but many many years ago at a Nebraska Bush event there was a AC D21 there called the Kansas Hooker. Any chance that was your familys tractor?

Yes it was

Re: Allis ? December 05, 2011 04:11AM
Jeff,

The Kansas Hooker D21 was our first pro stock tractor which debuted in 1989. We updated to AGCO 9650 sheetmetal on this tractor and built a chrome-moly frame for it in the winter of '94 or '95 and renamed it Hurricane Allis.

Take care, Todd
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Re: Allis ? December 05, 2011 12:41PM
How fricken cool is that?????

Re: Allis ? December 06, 2011 03:26AM
So I guess my question is how much difference in a 190 and 200 is there. The 200 seems like a big tractor for the class. Is there a difference in the 190 and the 190XT?

Re: Allis ? December 06, 2011 05:08AM
190, 190XT, 200, and even early 7000 all share the same basic rearend design. There may be weight differences between them through evolving better gears and such, but difference will be minimal.

Re: Allis ? December 06, 2011 06:00AM
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So I guess my question is how much difference in a 190 and 200 is there. The 200 seems like a big tractor for the class. Is there a difference in the 190 and the 190XT?

I think you are thinking of a 210/220, they are substantially larger and have the 426 engine. The 200 is just a newer version of the 190

Re: Allis ? December 06, 2011 09:59AM
use the 200, it has bigger ring @pinion with a 4 spider gear diff housing, and put 5.9 cummins in. it will weigh around 5400lb no problem.UNBELIEVEABLE. GO ORANGE.

Re: Allis ? December 08, 2011 10:43AM
Is the center section of an allis similar to the IH or similiar to the John Deere in length

Re: Allis ? December 08, 2011 12:10PM
The Allis would be longer than a JD from rear center axle to the front clutch housing. If you use the 180 you can roll the axle's and move the engine forward more. The 190 XT will have a bigger dia rear axle than a straight 190. Which is the same as a D-19. You can put the 4 pinion in the 180 rear. Although the 180 has the bullpinion and bullgear weak point. But you can put a D17 Series 4 finals and speed the 180 rearend up. Plenty of choices. All will work, just what you would want to start with. Scott Everett

Re: Allis ? December 08, 2011 01:38PM
llss fan if you are still wanting to do this project this time next year not knowing your timeline please let me know as I might be able to help you out.

I can be reached at (905) 435-0633 or antechwire@bellnet.ca. Smiling

Re: Allis ? December 11, 2011 01:56PM
hey Robert,Mark here. Whats going on with your rules this year? Would like to pull a couple times with you but dont want to cause headaches.

Re: Allis ? December 11, 2011 03:44PM
Give me a call during the day Mark 905 435-0633

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