john deere vs ih July 22, 2010 12:47PM
so i'm starting to plan a build. I have an jd vs ih question. I know that the ih has a longer bell housing that gives the tractor more natural wieght on the nose. does jd have a rear end and transmission that is similiar? something like a 560 rear end. i'm wanting to build a tractor thats weigh in the 5500# range.

Re: john deere vs ih July 23, 2010 03:31AM
Anybody got any help here?

Re: john deere vs ih July 23, 2010 06:25AM
I have an idea, since God knows we don't need anymore Internationals or John Deeres. Be someone that can think for themselves and build a Massey, and maybe for fun throw a perkins V-8 in it. Boy that sounds like fun.

Re: john deere vs ih July 23, 2010 09:06AM
Your weight might be an issue with a JD. 4010 is a great starter for building, but it would be some what heavier. In on your plans we don't know what kind of class you are talking about. Need a little more info.

Re: john deere vs ih July 24, 2010 12:16AM
You can get a 4010 down around 5500, depending on what equipment, class, and set-up you are running.

Re: john deere vs ih July 24, 2010 12:20AM
I'm thinking of the 404 block with a single charger setup. My question is does Deere have a tractor with a longer center section like an IH? Is the 2940 any longer than a 4010?

Re: john deere vs ih July 25, 2010 03:40AM
Should still catch close to that weight with a 404 single charger. Depends on how much you strip it, two vs. three bar cage, and how much aluminum you are prepared to use, and what tire/wheel combo. What you see in my picture is about 5300-5400 empty with a similar engine set-up to what you mention, but it is possible to get lighter than that yet if you set your mind to it.

Good question on the length vs 2940. I don't honestly think there is much difference, but have never measured them.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/25/2010 03:42AM by FarmersFun.

Re: john deere vs ih July 25, 2010 11:07AM
just curious what class you wanna pull with your setup?

Re: john deere vs ih July 25, 2010 12:29PM
I'm wanting to build a light limited super stock. Probably a spark plug engine. JD makes a 359 block thats in the 2940. What kinda a crank is in that motor and do you think it will live?

Re: john deere vs ih July 26, 2010 07:40AM
7 mains - not sure how much counterbalance it has...

There is a tractor running very hard in East Central MO with the 359 on alky with 2 chargers. Mike Savey & others ran it on diesel. The 359 is the same as the 329 with the exception of sleeve / bore diameter.

Who's LLSS are you looking at?

Re: john deere vs ih July 26, 2010 07:55AM
You could also use the 2940 or 4030, not sure on their exact weight. What is your cube limit? Deere also made the 414 engine.

Re: john deere vs ih July 26, 2010 09:38AM
I'm limited to 370 cubes. I'm leaning toward the 359 block cause i hear it has a really good head on it. I just wish jd made a light tractor with a longer center section. Thanks for all replies. The advise is appreciated.

Re: john deere vs ih July 26, 2010 09:59PM
I have a 4010 with a 362 motor that weights 4860 that I PULL IN THE 5500 CLASS

Re: john deere vs ih July 28, 2010 08:13AM
Has anyone looked into the JD 6000 Series?

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