The turbo builder will do the same with the 3.4 as the do with the 3 . So I don't see how you won't still be spending money on turbos?
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Won't be long and NTPA will have this class messed up too . There's no reason for a 3.4 to be in this class.
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We are not the only ones in the Midwest that doesn't allow 470. Ecitpa , PPL western series unless they changed . There's no reason to start that debate again, come to our fall meeting and state your opinion to the class .
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Who told you that a 3 disc 11inch wouldn't work ? I have been running a 3 disc 10 inch in my 686 LLSS for years. Yes I have extra weights on the fingers to help hold it . Granted you have to adjust it more .
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Dennis and the guys at Fair Valley Performance will do what ever it takes to get you back out on the track.
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Jay , Illinois is at half capacity on events. But today on the radio our governor said we're into phase 5 by June 12 with everything open with mask yet
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Our first in 2021 June 5. The LLSS class in Badger State with 3 other classes will be free . This pull is in Leaf River , IL. The reason behind this is to give everyone a chance to watch with being locked down for a year and a half of outdoor events .
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The first rules for the LLSS in my area was the intent for the small chassis tractor. 3 by 4 charger , no decuding of big motors . I know classes are to be allowed to grow, but the the original intent of the rules were not enforced. So this is and always will a discussion on what is best for the class or why everyone's rules aren't the same . To start another class in not smart , just b
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A lot of pullers I talk with and know in this class don't want it . The one building new would prefer components , but are building to the rules. If technology pushes our HP to the 2000 level I think it will come to that.
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May I ask what association/ group this is? Since this looks like just hearsay.
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Did you know that last year a little motor with spark plugs running 250 pounds less won the ECI points.
This tractor also won PPL Western Series LLSS , which also has a weight difference of 100 #.
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To Grubby: I see your on this site and make comments, so I assume you're a tractor pulling fan. Do you stand when they sing the national anthem? If so why is the pledge of allegiance different just because of one word? I was taught growing up it was a sign of respect to flag and for those who lost their lives fighting for our nation.
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I don't think Trump is going any where. If he did , how the the Democratic Party live . They are so obsessed with Trump. At this point and time it wouldn't be smart to have three parties. And the Republicans know it.
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I think he is medically not healthy. I wouldn't be surprised in one of his press conferences he will just keel over. And it's sad for anyone in there last years of life to be put through this, and really surprised his wife doesn't say enough is enough. But this is what the Democratic voters wanted .
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Just curious? Since PPL and Midsouth pullers , what are the LLSS rules , because PPL Western Series runs the LLSS class too . And if there different , why isn't PPL pushing the same unified rules in it's organization? On a side note: I found the rules on all the PPL LLSS classes and there all different.
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Dick , what happens when the same company makes the same tractor and you can get it in Red or Blue . This is CaseIH farmall 65C and New Holland's T4 same tractor.
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Thank you for the clarification Brent.
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Brent I had thought the NTPA was going to review the suspension rule? The Zenz boys have been running the WTPA circuit , which is the NTPA affiliate in Wisconsin for four to five years with this ,and now if they if they want to go to Fort Recovery they can't. But they can Grandfather the Oliver with a 478 cube Hercules engine. This doesn't make any sense .
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Bryan its to bad it has to be this way . This is part of the reason that not many will show up for one or two pulls that they will have. Then everyone will complain that nobody it supporting the class .
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I think the last post here by The original Michael post has good points . But some of the fees have have gotten out of hand towards the pullers. I have had my roll cage checked with PPL and is certified , but that not good enough for NTPA when it's the same test. Wether each one of these group checks your safety equipment , also they should honor each other's certifications.
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First off , I will start with the MAF on a 410 , to properly check it , the cover should come off and use a ball bearing to sure the ring is not over .200. I was showed how this works in a tech class . Takes time , which can be done . Second: the 3.4 should be measured as well with 1/8 protrusion. Takes time . Yes all this can be done , if is planned . Just remember there is only so many tech off
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I think them turbo rules would be a tech man's night mare to remember all of that. There's a lot feel the turbo should be revisited. The diesels needs one size for all . The WTPA in Wisconsin only has one size for the 410 and 470 .
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I think if you want to have a set of unified rules , everyone that runs a set LLSS rules needs to be included. Now someone will say you had your chance, really , was everyone of the representatives called , oh but it was on this site. Not everyone is on this site. We have learned to Zoom , so it is possible to include everyone . If the Farm Machinery Show wants this class , they will use their ru
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Look at the gallon of milk. .84 cents in 49 in 2020 you can find milk for .99 at Walmart. That's interesting.
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It's run off the front of the pump .It's a tuthill pump with a love joy connection and came from Fair Valley Performance. Runs around 65-70 psi and pump around 800 cc.
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I ran this system for years , it worked well . Two years ago I switched to a mechanical fuel and it made a big difference. I was starving the P-pumps performance.
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I know we all have been watching. It's seem the process has become a stepping stone to get ride of some you don't like or agree with, now this is for both sides now since the latest news from the freshman congresswoman from Georgia to impeach Biden. Point is that I am tried of both sides of the congress. It's like watching a bunch of 5 year olds . Someone needs to grow a pair and s
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Mr Werner: Why is it when someone wants to pull with Badger State , I see we're to change for them ? The 466 hot farm has very good following of tractors and very good numbers at pulls. I understand everyone wants unified rules , but don't make a club change if your only going to pull a couple times.
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To Wis hot farm: if you want change come to a meeting that Badger State has . Have to talked with Badger State 466 hot farm rep ? They have been ave 15- 20 tractors at pulls .
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As Jake stated that how some rules are interpreted. I have questioned the 1%over /under rule for cubic inches. Say our class is 410 , so if you build for this rule you can be 414 , but if the rule is for wear on the engine , so at the year your should be over cubed right ? So is the guy cheating for building to the rule where the limit is 410.
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