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Quoteold timer
Supertiquer, I agree with your statement of LSS.
Thank you. Many do though they will not say that publicly.
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QuoteThe Original Michael
Another valid question is why the organizational fixation with big engines?
PS 680, SF 640, are 5.0 and 4.1 both 640?
OSS and NTPA FWD 650, DSS and Light Pro 540; TWD and Mini 585.
Light Supers 505. I don't recall the SSD FWD truck ci limit. Are Outlaws and PPL FWD at 750?
Maybe there could have been room for tractor or truck classes that had much lower ci
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QuoteJake Morgan
Absolutely stupid response. There isn't a single thing bashing the NTPA in the post. It's a legit question, especially for the Florida classes.
Jake is your comment directed towards Fan 2's response? Just asking.
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QuoteMark (EC,IN)
Regardless, the point is LLSS was intended to be a "relatively" inexpensive class to participate in.
Just like the Pro Stock was going to be a stepping stone to SS.
Look how well that worked.
Thank you Mark.
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A better question MIGHT be what puller has the most livestock? Just saying.
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I fail to see the whatever of this post. But that's just me.
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QuoteDick Morgan
I'm not sure that I understand your question.
Sorry about that Dick. Mistake on my part.
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QuoteDick Morgan
I'm not sure if it's a merger or an alliance. This statement was taken off the Outlaws website. Does not sound like the Outlaws are in any great hurry to give up their independence.
It is critically important to emphasize that there will be no changes to competition structures, rules, schedules, event formats, or day-to-day operations for either group during the 202
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QuoteDave Ramsey
If one was to be honest with ones self, unless you are completely debt free you are financing your pulling tractor. If you have an operating note or equipment note or somthing else owed on where that money could go its the same as paying off that debt and creating new debt for the pulling tractor. With that in mind i doubt very many pulling tractors are paid for in cash. But this
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QuoteIhfan
Unbelievable... Financing pulling tractors.
Hope both parties are happy. Have always heard from older guys the big dogs in tractor pulling usually have financial problems.
Yep I know what you're saying. I never had one financed. I/we(meaning my wife and I)had to do that on our own. And we're no "big dog" and we're ok with that.
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Isn't this the "outfit" that bought Stamp farms? BTO's at their finest.
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Quotecaved
Heard Outlaws pulled out of an agreement with IHRA to stand alone. ITPA and outlaw worked together that last few years but that ended I heard with the IHRA deal, Now what happens?? Do they go back to ITPA and Outlaw co-sanctioningf again??
Many of us would like to know the answer to your question also. I'm sure we will in time.
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This really hurts. He and I talked a lot online. I never met him face to face, but I could tell what kind of person and soul he was.
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QuoteDick Morgan
I couldn't disagree with you more, the argument that if Hollywood does "within" the law is one of the lamest defenses to say the least. Pulling is not Hollywood, it wants to sell itself as a legitimate motorsport, then act like it. Same with winner circle interviews and some podcasts, clean it up. Don't promote pulling as a "family friendly sport" and then use foul l
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Quotepatches
I know I'd much rather watch 50 300 series powered 6000 lb lt ss than 10 400 series based lt ss
See it's posts like this that makes me want to put my 301 back together. Now I know how well that idea will go over.
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the younger generations look down there nose at craftsmanship.
Jeremy, believe me when I say that's not something that I wanted to teach our younger generation.
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Quotebconner
Celebrity Rehab,
I would like to debate with you on my terms and it can be on your hours. It seems you have a problem with me for unknown reasons. If you wish to hide behind your keyboard and be a coward, so be. I am betting you will not answer this call out! The internet has made some VERY courageous people which you seem to be one of!
I have never backed down from a discussion,
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Quotenailed it!!!
Thanks for pointing out that while some Ag chassis classes are still out there, they are essentially housings and nothing more. This is no longer the "tractor" some are attempting to cling to. That's just a fact.
Counterpoint:
Drag racing started out with OE frames & parts and evolved to absolutely nothing OE now.
Circle Track started out OE frames & parts and has
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QuoteLLSS national rules
Ed Shoobridge, a LLSS puller from SE Michigan, spent hours, if not years, to formulate "the national rules" with approval, about a decade ago, from several organizations that have the LLSS class. I believe those are the rules NTPA adopted but I can be corrected, if different.
He lived not too far from "cpr", whom likely can tell us the whole story.
You are correct in t
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QuoteIH 1586
Having hard time getting ahold of Aviaid. Running belt driven oil pump on 466 3000 rpm hot farm. Oil psi off line is alittle over 100 and below 30 at end of track. I am turning pump 1 to 1. Running 5 gallons of 50w oil. Spin on Deere filter holds almost 3 quarts. 2 section 2 inch pump. Stock oil pan with 2 hoses feeding pump. Changed oil and tried 6 gallons seemed to help some. How
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QuoteSascha
So one would have to program according to condition right before the hook and better be right.
Couldn't the same thing be said with EFI also? Just asking.
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QuoteBut why
And you think EFI and traction control will solve the issue of them making it down the track? You have that in every single Motorsport. There are always people trying to figure things out and learn as you go. Been there… that’s part of it. If a fan does not understand that’s part of the game then are they really a fan? I’ve gone to drag races and watched drivers smoke the tires in 10
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QuoteDick Morgan
Of course the pullers are a huge part of equation, and I8 do appreciate the time and money they put in to build and pull their vehicles. However the fans are why the sponsors support the sport, not because they love pulling, its to sell their product to the people that buy tickets and sit in the stands. No fans, no promoters.
Dick as I asked in the thread below about EFI, wou
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QuoteThe Original Michael
How many would retire or change classes? Would any new blood join a class where it was allowed?
If EFI was legal, which tractor classes? Should it be GN only or across the board? The tech is there with a potential to save parts.
As far as I'm concerned as a state puller it could be allowed across the board. But my question is how many new people would that brin
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Quotepullinfan
while you make a point, I feel the need to point out that there are 3 LLSS tractors in the top10 in points in outlaw LSS AG so as for "not competitive" I'd say that's not always the case.
Do they all weigh the same?
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QuoteRequired
How good is PPL's insurance? Just asking
It’s not worth having to be quite honest. The last round of letters sent out to competitors to sign and hold PPL harmless/release from all liability literally stated that by signing this you are signifying that you have accident insurance on your vehicle in case of an on track incident that leads to a by stander being injured.
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QuoteNot very
How good is PPL's insurance? Just asking
It’s not worth having to be quite honest. The last round of letters sent out to competitors to sign and hold PPL harmless/release from all liability literally stated that by signing this you are signifying that you have accident insurance on your vehicle in case of an on track incident that leads to a by stander being injured.
So
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I was 6th puller in that class. No one before me took that long to hook up. There was only one jd that pulled after I did and I never heard any one or anything about him taking "maybe taking 10 minutes". Are you absolutely SURE about the time it took? If it's who I think it is then he is a friend of mine and I applaud him for coming over and helping our class out as he is a per day member.
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QuoteCurious
What do non sanctioned clubs do for insurance?
most of them rely on the events insurance.
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How good is PPL's insurance? Just asking
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