QuoteDavid Runkle(earls dream)
Now some of dues goes to part of the insurance used for the year
Dave, it was good talking to you this morning. I guess some don't get what they pay their dues for. smh
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QuoteLewis
Ken I sold my last llss tractor with the thoughts of building a light hot farm which is basically the the same rules as this class .When I started pricing pumps injectors the prices was ridiculous for the price of a good diesel fuel system you can go a long way on the engine and fuel system for a alcohol llss .I'm building a alcohol Cummins for a person now with plans of making it
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Sheryl, all I can say is thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!! And now I know what I am getting for Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol Love you sister.
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I had a good talk with an ITPA director last night on the phone. After talking to him and having him explain some things to me, I can see the point of this class.
As current members, we all need to look at this with open minds.
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QuoteA
If they let all the non diesel tractors pull too from the ipa class this one class would have more in one class then itpa has in a whole show at alot of pulls. Be nice if more organizations would adopt each others same rules and allow pullers to have more choices of where they could pull at would put on much better shows when a pull will lst more then 45 mins to a hour when classes obly ha
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QuoteLewis
We have so many classes now because rules get out of hand that drive the cost up, then a new one with a new name gets started.
No truer words have been spoken.
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QuoteA
This new class is just the same as the IPA outlaw class. Except you can run water in itpa where in ipa no water allowed. The ipa outlaw class has had anywhere from 8-18 tractors at every pull
It is a PROPOSED new class in ITPA. Not a NEW class yet. And your post tells me a lot.
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I am glad that HSTPA has adopted this class but why is there a need for it? I mean I am a knuckle draggin lss puller. so can I pull in it?
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Honestly on the cage issue yes I believe that is right as far as the 9500 goes. On the 11,000 I really never heard how that is because the cage is only good for 10,000 lbs.. Now there may have been something with SFI on that, that I never heard about.
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QuotePulled there
You can take the water out because its not allowed. As far as tube frame, not needed. Roll cage yes because of insurance. P pump price is a lil high. You can can get used ones that are good for half that price you stated. Been there done that
You better go back and look at the proposed rules. Water injection is allowed. Tube frame may not be needed but is allowed. Roll cage ha
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I guess I started something here that I really didn't want to. That's why I said I really didn't want to offend anyone. But I can say from my experience(and I have had a lot) that the next lss puller will not come from this proposed class. What will happen in this proposed class is someone will want MORE after about 2 or 3 years of pulling in this class, Then everyone will have to
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Ok, then I'll ask this. If the new class were to come about(I think you have to have 10 paid members or vehicles) what current class will ITPA lose? It's a "hot button" with me also because I have worked my butt off over the last 20 to 25 years getting the Supertiquer to where it is. And so have the rest in the class I pull in.
I could say a lot more but I am not going to.
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I know I will probably offend someone and don't mean to but as long as I have been pulling ITPA(for 20+ years), I have never asked them for a new class. So why don't you build for the classes that are already in ITPA?
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QuoteG705
class proposed last year I believe was 7800lbs and 410 cubes, and 2.5 turbo.
Was some other differences as well....
As far as spacer plates, that is ITPA rule they want.
their opinion is if you need spacer plate, just make manifold mounting thicker (all one piece)
You're right. Now that you say that I remember that.
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Forgive me if I am wrong but wasn't this class proposed last year?
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Jim I just found out about it and yes that is VERY sad news and about makes me sick.
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Quotebconner
LOL,
That's a long story better left for another day!
Bryan, did Bill C teach you that method? lol
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After reading all these posts, all I can say is this. WOW!
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QuoteInterested
I agree that all new technology should be allowed. But at the same time why not allow component chassis?
Because I don't think that a component chassis is new technology from the manufacturer. I could be wrong though.
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Ya know, I have followed this message board since I pulled at the NFMS in 2001 and I am just about ready to "let it fly".
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Quotebeenthere
How much you slide the clutch out of the hole governs most of the wear I think.
That is a VERY VERY true statement. I have to double and sometimes triple slide my clutch in order to get on top of the turbos at the line and by doing that I have worn out the front floater in my clutch assembly. But hey, I am turning a BIG top charger with a little motor which is not supposed to ha
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QuoteDangerer
People can be so ignorant , they put their pulling tractors for sale asking an out rageous price thinking maybe a young kid spending Grandpas money will buy it, most are 50% over priced,,
Are you really sure about that? If you are then please enlighten me on how you came to that conclusion.
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QuoteDavid Runkle(earls dream)
Why is it for some so hard to let the weight issue go?. I can take my tractor and go pull in Canada, Michigan New York and down to KY back home through Ohio back to northern Illinois and still pull in Wisconsin and Iowa
um Dave, re read what you just posted and think about what you asked me at Paw Paw this year where you won the lss class with isp.
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QuoteLarry Anderson
One thing I have learned that if prospective buyer has to talk to his wife or banker you have probably lost that sale but not always.
I have to say this as a farmer and a puller. Talking to the wife is one thing, but if someone has to talk to the banker about a pulling tractor then they probably can't afford to buy it and you probably NEED to lose that sale because the
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QuoteNewguy
so maybe i just want to rant a little. I get on this forum atlas twice a week and the first thing i do is look at the for sale ads reasoning is I'm dying to have my own tractor i currently bum off of my father in law and we go to back yard pulls on the weekend and pull hot farm.. either way he wants to upgrade and i want in so I'm always wanting to find a deal that may help
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QuoteBig Red One
Interesting. I didn't think Zeeland Farm Services was that big or why a company would take on that much debt being that farming is not to good right now. Wonder what the deal is there....? It looks like its they are taking care of the CHS portion. Wonder whats going to happen with the outstanding from Deere, CNH, and Monsanto
I saw this on agtalk a couple days ago and wond
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Quotelewis
Bankruptcy is to easy
AMEN lewis!
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Quotemnm
this type problem has been ongoing in our country since bankruptcy was made a minor issue,walk away from debt,keep most of what we stole. consequences need to be in place,no money,no buyee,but not the case in America any more.Everyone seems to feel entitled to any thing and everything they want with out money.Nothing new,happens every day all over our failing country.
Where is the th
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Quotestory
here to stay
Here to stay? BWHAHAHAHA!!!!! Obviously that guy didn't know what he was talking about and had never been through the early 1980's.
Look, ALL buyers of grain want it as CHEAP as they can buy it! The buyers don't CARE what the producer gets! When will everyone EVER learn that?
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Chris - 6 years ago
You missed a great pull at Cape. It was just like Hammond. Lots of people there. Beans are going good, just a couple breakdowns but nothing major.
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