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This varies by class, but what is an average cost per pass for different classes? Mods, DSS, USS, PS, trucks, mini, etc?
For experienced pullers, what was the average cost per pass in your class when you started running in that class?
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Chrome works on my phone but not on pc. Firefox works, but see other email. I can't sign in on pc w/Firefox. Makes me wonder if Pulloff is hacked.
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The Shipshewanna entry list has 70 Hot Farms split into 3 heats.
Other classes, like LLSS, are very thin with 10 or fewer entries. Of note, there appear to be a few more 5.0 Pros than I expected.
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I used "events" instead of "hooks" because most but not all CT/GN events are 2-hook per class, multi-day affairs.
Of course this may differ by class, but in general, how many events is reasonable for a national points series, in your opinion. ("Trip" and "event" could be synonyms)
Is 8-10 reasonable? Should it be limited to 5-6 trips? # of hooks would be nearly double the # of events except
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QuoteDeere Puller
IMHO this is more like the points chasers getting to qualify as a group in NASCAR or NHRA. In the race(s) everyone is running at the same time, qualifying is when track condition changes could make a big change in results because they are competing against each other, but at different times and potentially different track conditions.
... except the new NTPA rule is not qualif
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As someone without a dog in the fight, this rule seems illogical, especially compared to other motorsports.
Even in series with an regular season/playoff format (NASCAR, NHRA), the ones battling for the points are not starting the race together (NASCAR) or racing in designated qualifying spots (NHRA); those drivers have to qualify and start wherever on the grid (NASCAR) or ladder (NHRA) their
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Anyone who was around in the early days-
When NTPA started, classes were 5,7 9, and 12.
Sometime in the 1970s, it became 5500, 7500, 9500, and at some point didn't the 12 SS become 12,200?
Why did the 5,7, and 9 increase by 500 lbs? Did guys want to make it easier for their 4010s to make the 5 and 1066s to make the 7?
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Light Limited Super Stock
Besides corrections to 2023 rules for LLSS previously posted to NTPA Tech Page in early 2023, the following rule was adopted
Light Limited Super Stock – limit all diesel engines to 3.4 x 4-inch smooth bore turbo including those engine sizes that allow two turbos. Use of a 3.0 x 4-inch turbo with MAP ring is no longer allowed
Pro Stock – 5.0
Approved
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QuoteTomah winner
I have been watching some videos from the old days and the new from Bowling Green, and I've noticed that NTPA hasn't had Bowling Green all the years. Can somebody please give me a timeline of who ran Bowling Green at what point in time?
Did USHRA ever have it? Is USHRA the same as RED MAN TNT at the time?
NTPA sanctioned BG through 1986.
TNT took over the BG sanc
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Also, as an aside, the statement about insurance companies cracking down has me wondering:
For anyone in the know, what other aspects of pulling are insurance companies cracking down on?
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Saw this posted on facebook from Southern Express Sled Rental, but it reads like it will be across the board for all NASOA members. It will be interesting what ripples this may have down to farm stocks and antiques.
Attention All Pullers!!!
If you not aware most all the sleds you hook are leval 8 sleds under the North America Sled Operator Association and this organization is the liability in
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As of right now, is there a single owner of the majority of shares of WPI stock?
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Wasn't the meeting on 9/15? If there are 1 or 2 proposals that aren't decided, advise such and post the ones that have passed or failed.
This question is not a criticism, just an honest question:
Is the decision on when to publish new rules solely up to Marvin? The NTPA President? A board or committee? How is the process supposed to work?
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QuoteFarmersFun
Removing cast to the point of making it unsafe doesn't make it right.
Like I said, different regions/areas and different club/association dynamics are what drives the different weight limits.
Just back off and leave it alone.
Are we trying to grow pulling or are we trying to create division among pullers?
You have your ultra light weight utopia where you live. Not
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QuoteYup
Current top tier antiques have way more technology and innovative in them than the cookie cutter 466 classes. 700+ cubed D466's, 800 ci rd 501's 1000+ ci G jd's. Hd800's over 1300. All running 3000rpm or more.
Out of curiosity, what would be a good ballpark guess for the cost of a top running Div. V tractor?
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What rules were passed, amended, withdrawn, etc. last weekend?
Anything above and beyond the published proposals (like the Diesel SS restrictor plate rule that came out of the blue pre-Covid when it wasn't on the proposals, then withdrawn after pushback)?
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QuoteBrent Yaron
Regional National Results
Grand National Results
2 points- 1) Thank you, and
2). I outlined where a normal person would go in another reply. I stand by my reply. If it is not easily found in the Results section as detailed below, someone in that organization does not understand how the average person would use their site..
Edit- I wondered where you found it.... One has t
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QuoteLooking
Can't find anything
This is an example of systemic issues within the organization. This is their All Star Pull. They hype it all season, and had stories on their new website about it leading up to the event.
As of 9:40 am Sunday 9/17, if one goes to the new NTPA website that still does not work right on my phone after a month...
If one clicks Results, we get the following ch
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After trememdous support by all the D-21s at the Half Century of Progress show, they are addimg a D-21 class. There's 1 rule- must be D-21 sheet metal.
Other than thst, anything goes.
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Quotegreat
Handy....................this is supposed to be all the "top finishers" in each respective class for both Region and Grand National.........until it's not I guess. False advertising I would say. Makes me wonder if it will be worth my first ever trip to this pull now.
If a puller's vehicle is broken, or he/she has business concerns which they feel need tending to, that make
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Who is building new vehicles for 2024?
Thus far, rumors have Bill Voreis and Matt Cain. I believe both are supposed to be triple-engine mods, but I haven't heard if the two tractors are running an 8-71 RN, 14-71 GN, or screw unlimited setup.
The Olden team is building a new JD DSS.
I assume Adam Bauer's SS shouldbe done.
Who else is building? Who is retiring or changing classe
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LLSS rear wheel gets away
I only post the video for discussion. Incident in question begins at 6:20. Not a 5 engine mod, not a DSS, USS, PS, or even LSS.This was a limited LSS.
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One thing that makes zero sense to me over the years is the lack of consistency in the mod rules. The Radial Reactor tractor should be legal, period. I'd like to know the thought process behind not allowing radials at all class levels. In Europe they've successfully ran for years. To quote the late Dennis Johnson, "it's either legal or it isn't." Variances are crap rules.
I
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Olden new chassis
There is pic on Facebook of the new Olden Kryptonite tractor being built (link above if it works).
I did see Olden's ran the current Kryptonite at the UPOC pull in Winston Salem a couple weeks ago and did well.
I thought I had seen on a Precommit/Free Entry list from a year or two ago that Oldens had a second tractor being built. My ? is- Is the current Kryptonite be
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It does not allow zooming for my Android on either Chrome or Firefox.
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When I click the schedule on Android phone, the colored tabs at thr top are microscopic and I cannot enlarge them. Design flaw.
Why do this now? Why not launch after the season?
Edit- Nothing will enlarge, at least on an Android phone. Results need a microscope to see. How could someone pay a developer for a new website and overlook such a common thing?
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video:
Not directly pulling, though there are several pulling tractors. At the Half Century of Progress show, the attached video is a guy walking around showing all the orange tractors.
I did not know AC made industrial yellow versions.
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And he won Saturday night
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QuotePulling fan
Stanley has his still and so does Fred. They just aren’t legal to run anywhere.
Would they be legal in PPL USS or NTPA Open SS?
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Colin Ross driving a Pro Stock this weekend.
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