Re: Question about the new ntpa engine sheetmetal rule - 16 years ago
2. Component chassis tractors will be allowed to run any agricultural tractor sheet metal (1960 or newer) with any legal block. Block does not have to be the same brand as sheet metal. (This applies to both Super Stock and Pro Stock tractor divisions) As per the wording, I would interpret this new rule to mean the only component chassis tractors can mix and match motors. OEM chassis (Ag rear-by Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: Block & Hood go together like Peanut Butter & Chocolate - 16 years ago
Very, very well said Robert. The limits are... and were the problem. The LSS has more variety than the Open Super because of the lower limits. This rule isn't needed where there are already reasonable limits in place (i.e. Light Super Stock).by Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: Block & Hood go together like Peanut Butter & Chocolate - 16 years ago
There's still the CAT! (actually two CAT blocks 3150 and 3208) A true Oliver guy could build a 3208 on alcohol or diesel depending on the class. Seems like my memory says that the 3208 can run pretty darn good on alcohol! As for running one on diesel, Kevin Taylor runs very solid with Bad Kitty in the Pro Stock class on a limited budget. There have been some pretty good running SF with tby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Check your facts and read threads closely - 16 years ago
To: independent pulling news / Lefty (funny how you agree with each other and also have the same IP address) If I go into politics you better not be the guy doing the fact checking because you are 100% wrong on me deleting posts from this thread. I combined (merged) two topics relating to the same issue, “NTPA is wide open for 2010” and “BIG News from NTPA/WPI Board Meetings!!!” were both tby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Block & Hood go together like Peanut Butter & Chocolate - 16 years ago
Actually it didn’t exist because you didn’t cross brands. That Ford truck motor was still made by Ford. I believe the crank swinging rule has been exploited by all brands, and it would be simple to make a list of interchangeable blocks and cranks for each brand. I believe I wrote continually how the 40 Series Detroit shouldn’t be allowed with a D-21 Rear-end. I still don’t think it shouby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: Any motor any sheet metal makes sense! - 16 years ago
If it came in a Big Bud and they made over 150 tractors then I’ve got a feeling that even a bad lawyer could get your Komatsu on the track at an NTPA event.by Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
I get it, but I sure don't agree with it! - 16 years ago
I would argue that a can of spray paint could bring color to a class, but would it truly be color and variety? If I had a dozen 1066’s and painted them different color is that variety? Not to me it’s not. If you put 4010 sheetmetal on one is that variety? I would argue no. Not really. Here’s my analogy: Let’s say we went to a bar… it’s all guys just hanging around… no variety there… youby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Keyboard pullers... - 16 years ago
Always remember… the keyboard pullers that so many people like to belittle are FANS! One of the biggest problems with this motorsport is that fans DON’T have a voice. A large part of NASCAR’s success is because it’s about 99% fan based.by Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: Any motor any sheet metal makes sense! - 16 years ago
Mark, I’d have to build a time machine and call you about 4 years ago! Honestly, I'm in classes all day, but if you get a chance try calling me sometime after 7:00. I knew this was coming in some class(es), but I really, really, really dislike the idea of it in all component classes. In my personal opinion this should have been done as a trial balloon in the ULSS class. The Unlimiby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: Randy Barreau buys the Git-er-dun PS!!!! - 16 years ago
I’d love to see Brian on an Agco LSS Diesel as well, but I joked with the Shramek’s in BG that I wouldn’t mind seeing Brian on an Agco Pro Stock powered by a 40 Series Detroit… similar to Domann’s Hurricane Allis.by Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: Classes and CID - 16 years ago
I’m not sure what you’re complaining about… you have plenty of big cubic inch classes to choose to pull in so what’s the problem?by Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: Young Blood pulling in the LSS - 16 years ago
With the exception of Mini’s, the LSS is by far the premier driver’s class & tractor setup class in all of truck and tractor pulling. I by no means want to discount the driving ability in the other classes, or the skills of the drivers in those classes, but LSS has the least margin of error. Ton’s of HP, big tires, high center of gravity, and limited movable weight... it’s a recipe to keep faby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: Dirt Dawg Pulling - 16 years ago
If anyone knows how to get in touch with these people please lend a hand. If you don’t want your name on the page please just email me (jakemorgan@pulloff.com) and help this person out. A phone number, an email address, an address… please lend a hand to help a fellow puller track down their parts.by Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: Diesel in the LSS - 16 years ago
If I pulled a Diesel Super Stock (almost all of the top running DSS on the GN circuit are between 436 and 540 cubic inches) I’d be much more inclined to pull against a similarly sized 505 cubic inch alcohol tractor rather than running against a 650 cubic inch ULSS alcohol tractor. One is a level playing field, the other is not. In the last few years some of the top DSS have really stepped upby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: lps - 16 years ago
Massey comes with stock options at 510 and 540 so there should be no problem for either a 505 or 540 class (1% tolerance in a 505 class is 510). The Cat came as a 573 and a 636 so they would require a little work, but Oliver/White/MM could use the: 478 Herc, 451 MM, 504 MM, and even the 585 MM with some work, if they put Agco sheetmetal on they could use the 426 AC, 505 Cummins, or the 40 Seriesby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Diesel in the LSS - 16 years ago
I completely agree about giving credit where credit is due… awesome year for the LSS, in only a few short years on the GN circuit it’s become one of the most exciting classes in the sport. Esdon also picked up a 4th in Sandwich, IL in Session 2. So for the last 3 Light Super Stock hooks he’s had two wins and a 4th against the best Light Supers there are. Not a bad few events considering he’sby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: Glad to see a Diesel win the LSS - Sandwich GN - 16 years ago
Even more proof this past weekend, Redline Fever won again in Sandwich, IL, this time in a GN Event. The LSS needs more and more diesels winning, and Esdon is proving it can be done. For fans of the grease burners... Esdon is really giving us something to cheer about. A few more of those top DSS motors in a few more light chassis and that class is going to get even more exciting.by Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: 
--POLL #1-- Cubic Inches for the NEW NTPA class--POLL #1-- - 16 years ago
I’ve stated on a number of occasions that anything between 504 and 540 is fine with me. Personally I prefer 505 because I think 505 is going to leave a little more meat in some of the “smaller” blocks. I also like 505 because it creates a common engine size with tractors in the LSS (very important). I’ve written articles in the past regarding the need for unified rules, I’ve also stated that Iby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: --POLL #1-- Cubic Inches for the NEW NTPA class--POLL #1-- - 16 years ago
There’s nothing wrong with 466 other than it’s a pretty old number. Before people get mad at the word “old”… let me explain. A limit of 504 or 505 is inclusive and still allows the 466, but lets in newer motor like the 505 Cummins, which has become a very, very, very common motor. With the NTPA’s 1% variance, 505 is actually 510 so the V-8 Massey still has a stock option (although they could aby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: The rules for the NEW NTPA LPS class - 16 years ago
I honestly don’t think we need another class… For years I’ve lobbied that we fix the current class offerings to logical rules, rules that make sense for all brands, rules that closely resemble the majority of tractors produced. Unfortunately there is no leadership in the sport (in any organization), and although there is constantly talk of changing rules and reigning in classes… it never happeby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: Is there any interest in a 640 4.1 class? - 17 years ago
For a 505 540 Light Pro Stock Class: Will SF decube immediately?… maybe some, definitely not half the class. Will PS decube immediately?... some… maybe a fair number of guys who still run a cast rear-end. New pullers… definitely lots… A 505 class will increase membership mush faster than a 600 or 640 class. The NTPA makes it’s money by membership (nothing wrong with that, it’s a perfeby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Glad to see a Diesel win the LSS - Ridgeland - 17 years ago
Redline Fever beats some of the World's best LSS in Ridgeland.... I wish I could have seen it! I think it’s exactly what the LSS class needs is a top diesel to mix it up with the best 505 methanol tractors around. I’m really glad to see a grease burner come out on top. It really makes me wish Esdon would have jumped in with the GN boys in Bowling Green. Anyone who’s ever read this pageby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: Deck plate doesn't increase size as fast as a dinner plate - 17 years ago
A deck plate doesn't increase engine size anymore than a dinner plate increases my size... there's a little more to the combination rather than just blaming the deck plate. I helped build a 496… it had a deck plate (it was a 474 with a stock stroke and a slightly larger bore so it didn’t really “need” a deck plate to gain cubic inches). If you took out the deck plate it would have sby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: The rules for the NEW NTPA LPS class - 17 years ago
There are currently a 640 and a 680 single turbocharger class. There are also two 650 multi-turbocharger classes. I personally believe the big cubic inch classes are already very (very, very) well covered in the NTPA. The NTPA has one, (1) single, solitary class that has a lower cubic inch limit. Ironically 95% of the large tractors manufactured came in the 426-504 range. Let me reiterate…by Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: Still a Steiger Fan - 17 years ago
Well, I have to disagree a few stements... A 466 and a 414 (and 436) can swing the same crank… what’s their big difference… deck height? A 466 in a 1066 seems like a perfectly logical engine swap whether on the farm or on the track. As for the 619 replacing the 531… it’s no different than the dt466 replacement… the crank swings… it happens on the farm and on the track and I don’t think too maby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Paint it Lime Green! - 17 years ago
I agree with you 100% (there’s a first for everything!) I was actually thinking of your tractor when I wrote the sheetmetal/engine comment, your sheetmetal quickly lets the fans know what they are seeing and it ends much of the confusion. I actually wrote the sentence “ I think there are plenty of other Steiger hoods or hoods from Articulating Case IH tractors to choose from that would make a grby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: to TM - 17 years ago
Yes, Chris Cole’s tractor is still in NY. Chris is doing a good job with the Reborn Binder and has picked up a few wins in the NYTPA HSS this summer (Chris runs the DV550 motor). The other DV 550 I can think of is Scott Eberhardt and the Red Bull LSS. Kevin is running a 903 Cummins in the Controlled Chaos. The rules on the National circuits allow you to run ANY ag block from that manufacturby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: Photo of Kevin Campbell's "Controlled Chaos" - 17 years ago
I'm pretty sure it's a 903 Cummins that’s been decubed to 650. It showed a ton of potential, and should be a serious contender.by Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: is the lps afraid of gas??????? - 17 years ago
A 5.9 is legal in a White because a 5.9 was offered in very late model Whites. I can’t remember the exact model… I believe it was a White 135, but I’ve seen White’s with a 5.9 in them from the factory. CaseIH guys can also run a 5.9 because it also comes in some newer Case IH tractors. As for the Sisu… it is the current offering for a fair number of Agco tractors. Most organizations allby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
Re: can't please everyone - 17 years ago
Tracy, This is just my opinion, but from a fan’s standpoint, one of the best features of the single charger tractors is the sound. A single turbo has a very distinctive sound. Multiple charger act like mufflers and mute the sound to a large degree. A Diesel Super mostly just sounds like wooshing air, a Pro Stock on the other hand sounds like an engine still. I know many people say they dby Jake Morgan - Pulling Forum
