If you take some region, state, and bush pulls and don't allow the top guys to get to 320 or better, you wont put on a good show.
There is no rule stating that GN caliber trucks and tractors cant pull at lower levels. Take for instance Bone Twister, your Cloverdale and NFMS sweep winner. If we go back to a region hook this summer and you plan to stop the Bone at 290 or 295 then the res
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Yes 18 sec is way too long.
Here is a video of a 386' pass in 15 sec. I would take that pass on the motor over any 12 sec pass to 290 any day of the week. Now fans may differ on what they want to see, I was just providing an example.
Wettleson and Red Thunder did the same that pull.
Another example of a 337' at 12 sec.
Anytime we can run 310-340 in 12 sec is pr
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Its a super. At gordy the DSS can pull in the pro class at a lower weight. I heard he stayed at 8200 to test it for Cloverdale and NFMS.
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You guys ever watched the show Gold Rush? They call one of the holes there the "glory hole" and Jason said that's what he was referencing and called the pile the Gordyville glory hole. No reason your kid shouldn't be able to repeat that.
I realize there is a different connotation that can go with that, but that isn't Jason's fault. And no kid would have known that con
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It originally was any cube motor and now its 504 push rod class like NTPA.
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But do you realize that is the normal response because no one is stopping you from having a component chassis right now, but you?
A component chassis seems like a very important upgrade to your program. It would make your year so much easier with all of the clutch and gearing work you need to do. Everyone on this forum agrees your work load would lessen with a component chassis based on th
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Edited to say thanks for the compliment, and leave it at that.
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"I would say you are driving towards calling component a dominant chassis here"
Yes you can say whatever you would like, but you just proved I never said it.
Using different words to attempt to convey someone else's message is the definition of putting words in their mouth.
Maybe next time on the shirt.
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Well at least I don't have to wait until Sunday to read the funnies.
No agenda here. Don't own a llss, don't work on one, and hope llss vote components in.
Extra credit for you. Since you think I was the one putting words in your mouth, if you can go back in any of my posts and find the word "dominate" or "dominant" , give me your address and I will send you a free Truck S
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Now you bring up the Outlaws LSS class. This is a perfect example of what we are talking about here with rules and voting and classes offered,
Outlaw LSS doesn't allow components. BUT the guys that wanted them moved on and started their own class...Unlimited Light Super Stock.
At first it was any motor at 6200 lbs, but the intention was that would be a 504 push rod motor class at 62
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What's funny is I never said all components have to be 504 alky tractors, it wasn't even an analogy.
Below is the quote.
"What was the goal of the LLSS class in the first place? It was guys (all with ag chassis) wanting a place to pull a limited motor class without having to run LSS against the 504 component alkys."
It was a statement to step aside from your individual nee
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Sounds good, I don't care if you allow them.
The one reason you stated you wanted it was because of ease to working on them, which is definitely nice.
But if the power is so limited it can't take advantage of chassis advantage how much splitting are you actually needing to do during the season?????
Does the limited power really warrant the ease of access to all the compon
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Yes that's why I went to one.
You don't agree with the on track advantages a component can create over an ag chassis???
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I never talked about ease of use..
Your words were "Most people will answer that question with a resounding "YES", but fail to indicate what exactly are the variables they conider to be a competitive advantage."
So I addressed that.
I have owned both, tell me again what I don't understand.
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I could care less whether components are allowed or not.
But you really need someone to tell you what advantages you can gain with a component chassis over a ag chassis?
Easier to get more nose weight
Easier to use flex chassis to transfer power to tires equally and consistantly
Those are the big ones. At 6000 lbs if both tractors have the same HP the component could be built to get
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Yes it's a simple process. We have done many. The Def portion just gets unplugged. Change exhaust and upload EFI live file.
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Get a good 4" exhaust for it. FLO PRO will make a kit that is downpipe back for that year. The get a tune from EFI live for it. You will be much happier. We usee Duramax tuner for ours. They can help you with any questions you may have. They can even put you in touch with an EFI live shop in your area.
They have an option for dpf and egr delete tunes. Then just need to slip in E
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Read it on one of the forums, so it's gotta be true.
Does it change anything if that far stretching rumor would become true?
I merely brought it up as speculation. IF it were true then I don't see any change coming on the airbag issue. If not true, then offered a solution that could work on the NTPA side of things.
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Since this isn't an SFI or safety issue, why not let each class vote on whether it is allowed in that class?
If LSS guys want it let it go.
The ruling would be a 3 year rule then and revisit when that time frame has expired with the current members then.
No lines, no electrical, no compressors. Schrader valve only, 1 per bag.
Also along with that ruling stipulate the NTPA w
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I see your point, and thanks.
Attendance is definitely something that could have been better this summer. Promoting a pull is not an easy task.
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I was told they went down the list of GN lss and Phillips couldn't make it and then they were down to GN license holder with the most appearances. Jason was the competitor next in line. It appears odd but just coincidence. Fair is fair. Congrats Jason!
And to your question, is comparing the Enderle to a regular points or summer event apples to apples as far as promoting goes?
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Thanks for the vids. Anyone no how many DSS were there and results?
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You are right it did my mistake.
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What's per hook fee? And anything special with PPL needed not covered under NTPA or Outlaw safety requirements?
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I think Mabel and Spencer will round out the year for us.
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They thought clutch issue wouldn't let it leave the line sat night. It sounded good winding up and then wouldn't load the motor. Was able to back up and drive off. Glad they came down definitely a plus to any show.
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The numbers showing up are lower than I would like too, but I have no control over that.
Fact is there are 3 new DSS coming out for 2015 and that would make 8 new DSS since 2012.
We are all ears for suggestions to fix the problem. The pool of tractors are there. What do you suggest to increase the % of DSS that show up?
I have worked with NTPA for solutions to this, and to be hon
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Another new DSS? That's just crazy talk!
Looks great Jason see you guys in 15!
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5 years huh?
Do you disagree that these new tractors exist???? There is not one thing I have said about numbers that isn't true. All is speculation and potential before a pull starts.
I can't make people pull them. I promote the class based of the numbers of tractors that were built these last few years. And it's fact the pool of DSS in Region 3 and 5 is bigger n
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Sorry to disappoint. If you would only leave your name so I could apologize in person sometime.
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